Buckdog said:

Put the verm on dry and then mist. I'd honestly use pasteurized cactus soil over verm though in the future. I used both and the cactus soil just performed so much better. It's perfectly possible that it was just me execution, but both verm shoeboxes performed the same, which they still gave me a good amount, but the cactus soil casing layer definitely did better every time so far

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Churpee Choozle said:

Kloakk, I cased mine when they were more or less 100%. The tub that's pinning now was cased the 15th and started looking like crap forming primordia three days later. Nine days after spawning, three days after casing, come to think of it, pretty fast for a slow species.

Have to add to that: it's 2/3 compost. The coir tub was spawned earlier, cased earlier, and is still chillin'.

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Thanks for the insight, you cased with 100% verm right? If I remember correctly you've got coarse grade verm? I think mine is medium grade but that might not matter?

I have three 15qt tubs and two 5qt shoeboxes, so maybe just try both verm and pasteurized cactus soil and see what I get? Oh and I've read something about potency and manure substrate for semps, would love to see how you're tubs develop in the next weeks. I made 5 AIO jars today and one of them is getting semp wedge tomorrow

I think the "slow" with semps is from pins to print

Churpee Choozle said:

Yup, 100% verm, but it was (size) fine. Coarse seems to be the best thing to go with, judging by this thread, but got mine from a friend.

I didn't compost manure, but hay / straw and leaf litter. So far the most striking difference seems to be that it colonized and pinned a lot faster than plain coir.

If this all ends well, I think I'll continue with AIO's or cakes. Have a 12 L and 2 8,5 L shoeboxes going atm, wtf am I going to do with all those shrooms. Still handing out the cubes from two LAGM shoeboxes.

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Yeah, I feel ya, but as was said by Thurman not long ago, and I can relate, I'm results driven, not fruit driven.. I have very few friends(by choice) and I probably never use near as much as I produce. Oh well, it's a lot of fun

I'm not sure where I'll be in a year, but as long as nothing fucked up happens I'm growing shrooms, might be tubs, might be cakes, just enjoying the journey with this one, thanks again for your thoughts and time.

Buckdog said:

All I do to pasteurize is get all the sticks and rocks out that I can, put it in a ziplock bag, moisten it, I don't measure anything just get it moist. Then I put it in the dehydrator flattened out at 158° for 4 hours. Hasn't failed me yet. I still give it a good direct misting after I put the casing layer down, not thick, really just enough to cover the surface, maybe a couple millimeters, and I pat it down lightly

But yeah just cactus soil, but like I said I still had decent success with verm, and it could have just been my technique. I know verm can work well, just cactus soil has done better for me

I also did fine verm, maybe that was my issue

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Thanks for sharing your method and experience, I appreciate it. I'm thinking that since I have both and several tubs I'll try both. Even tho my verm is medium grade it has a lot of fine grade. And my thought is that what we want to achieve with a verm casing is small pockets of perfect microclimate that will trigger pinning. Now coarse grade verm would be really good for that I presume. But hey, as mentioned, I am in no need for large amount of fruits so I'll do both and report back..

Thanks again my man

Buckdog said:

Put the verm on dry and then mist. I'd honestly use pasteurized cactus soil over verm though in the future. I used both and the cactus soil just performed so much better. It's perfectly possible that it was just me execution, but both verm shoeboxes performed the same, which they still gave me a good amount, but the cactus soil casing layer definitely did better every time so far

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Churpee Choozle said:

Yeah Tao, keep those cakes coming. They're a delight to look at. My non-cube cakes never performed half as well as the average shit you post.
Kloakk, I cased mine when they were more or less 100%. The tub that's pinning now was cased the 15th and started looking like crap forming primordia three days later. Nine days after spawning, three days after casing, come to think of it, pretty fast for a slow species.

Have to add to that: it's 2/3 compost. The coir tub was spawned earlier, cased earlier, and is still chillin'.

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A.k.a said:

A little over 4 months in now

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smalltalk_canceled said:

A.k.a said:

A little over 4 months in now

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So a unopened bag fruiting? Looks sparse at this stage.

Whats the composition of da nutrition, roughly?

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