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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: psychedelicmind]
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I have some large filter patches that are slightly larger than a wide mouth mason jar. I thought I saw somewhere that you could use this patch with just the band? Or does a lid still need to go on?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 2020twicebaked] * 3
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2020twicebaked said:
I have some large filter patches that are slightly larger than a wide mouth mason jar. I thought I saw somewhere that you could use this patch with just the band? Or does a lid still need to go on?



You can use them as you describe, however with so much area for gas exchange I find the top layer of grain dries out before it can completely colonize. I use the filter and band if I want to dry out colonized grains for storage or sharing.

For making grain spawn I prefer to use the lid with a 1/4” hole drilled into it in addition to the filter discs. This will limit the amount of moisture loss.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 2020twicebaked] * 2
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You still want to use the lid otherwise the stuff in the jar dries out quick.  Poke a little hole in the lid and cover with micropore tape so stuff doesn't migrate. Sandwich the filter disk on top of the lid and beneath the rim.  Filter disks are pre-sized to 70 and 90mm sizes for narrow and wide mouth jars and sizes for gallon jars too but people on here don't use those much.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 1
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beat me to it...:laugh2:

:highfive1:

RoscoeReturns said:
2020twicebaked said:
I have some large filter patches that are slightly larger than a wide mouth mason jar. I thought I saw somewhere that you could use this patch with just the band? Or does a lid still need to go on?



You can use them as you describe, however with so much area for gas exchange I find the top layer of grain dries out before it can completely colonize. I use the filter and band if I want to dry out colonized grains for storage or sharing.

For making grain spawn I prefer to use the lid with a 1/4” hole drilled into it in addition to the filter discs. This will limit the amount of moisture loss.




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Thank-you all for your quick and accurate responses. Embarrassed that I didn't think about my grains drying out with too much FAE.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Shroom_Ed65] * 3
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Shroom_Ed65 said:
just noticed the edges of the substrate pulling away from the side of the tub, is this a sign it's to dry? if so is that the reason my pins seem to be aborting?





My suggestion is to start working on the next grow focusing on clean spawn.

There's something unfavorable going on with this one. Not saying to toss it (yet). But adjusting your expectations about the end results, will help you focus on achieving more successful & consistent flushes in the future.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SkanskKorv] * 3
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SkanskKorv said:
I followed the guide and sterilised them instead, all of this was a long shot but it was my only option at the moment I did it tbh.

And yeah LC is risky but you can't just say "that won't work" since I've made 2 B+ LCS which I've successfully grown 10 jars of so it can be done even if I had a lot of beginner's luck and it doesn't have to be contaminated even if the odds are against it. I guess I'll just have to wait and find out.

As I previously stated I will be doing agar work from now on instead and I just ordered dishes + lme and agar just after ordering a pc.



No, I will continue to say LC should not be done by beginners, because it should not.  Especially if made from spore, that’s a very bad idea.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Contam question:

Some water had pooled in the corner of my tub, so I opened to lid to absorb it with the corner of a tissue. Noticed this area of thicker, whiter mycelium (compared to the area around it).

Also saw a drop of yellow metabolite nearby.

Could this be early trich? If so, is it early enough to slow the growth with salt paste or something else? The tub is starting to fruit with about a dozen well-growing pins and a dozen more just beginning to develop.

I've been jumping at shadows this whole grow, but I figure there's no harm in asking and maybe learning more. Thanks as always 🍄


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EndlessB] * 1
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It looks off, but I wouldn't try to do anything to it. Most of the gimmicks don't really work and some can mess up a tub.

Just leave it be. You'll know for sure within the next couple days. Just leave it be and harvest any pins you have once they're ready. If it's mold, all it really means is that you won't get a full pinset or second flush.

Now would be a good time to plan and start working on your next grow. You can always improve your technique. How did you inoculate your grains?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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Quote:
PuffM4gicDr4gon said: Now would be a good time to plan and start working on your next grow. You can always improve your technique. How did you inoculate your grains?



LC from a vendor. I tested a little bit on agar first to see if it was clean, but inoculated the grain via the syringe itself. I was aware this had some risk, but felt it was the best option for me given various circumstances.

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PuffM4gicDr4gon said: It looks off, but I wouldn't try to do anything to it.




After reading a bunch of other trich threads, this was my instinct too. If really wanted to do something though, is there anything you suggest?

It's tucked so nicely in the corner of the tub, and most of the pins are on the complete opposite diagonal, so it's very tempting to think "I could take this out" without affecting the rest of the tub.

Thanks for taking a look!

Edited by EndlessB (04/06/25 10:57 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EndlessB] * 2
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You'll want to remove the vendor name as it's against the rules.

It takes a lot of time to develop the skills to recognize healthy mushroom mycelium vs mold vs bacteria, especially going LC to Agar. A lot of the obvious telltale signs of healthy mushroom mycelium don't show up until after a transfer or two. It's usually recommended that people start with Agar to grain rather than working with LC because it helps you develop an eye for what is right and what is wrong. Many of the TCs don't use LC at all. We can help you identifying healthy agar cultures to give you a leg-up on the skills, but in the end it just comes down to experience. Once you have a 100% clean culture on agar, cultivation gets much easier and your success rate climbs fast.

If it is mold in your tub (and I'm not 100% sure that it is), cutting it out or applying salt/Peroxide/whatever will only spread it further. The mold is intertwined with the surrounding area and only a small part of it is visible on the surface.

Generally, an infected tub will always perform poorly. It's really not worth the effort trying to save it. Just harvest what's there when it's ready and scrap it.

Focus on getting a clean culture on Agar. It's an essential skill and skipping it will only lead to more frustration (I'm speaking from experience on this one).

It looks like you'll get some fruit, which is better than a lot of people end up with so you're on the right track already. Just focus on essential skills and you'll have canopies in no time.

Best of luck to you!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EndlessB] * 1
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EndlessB said:
I tested a little bit on agar first to see if it was clean, but inoculated the grain via the syringe itself.




as in? you did an agar plate and the bad\g at once? or what? youll most likely see if the syringe is clean on the agar first so ... good luck?:thumbup:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
<Great advice>

It looks like you'll get some fruit, which is better than a lot of people end up with so you're on the right track already. Just focus on essential skills and you'll have canopies in no time.

Best of luck to you!



Really appreciate the advice and kind words, thank you!

Definitely at the beginning of my journey. Getting this far has been really energizing and inspired me to continue slow and steady into the future.

mushboy said:
as in? you did an agar plate and the bad\g at once? or what? youll most likely see if the syringe is clean on the agar first so ... good luck?:thumbup:



I did the agar plate, let the myc develop, thought it looked clean, and then used the syringe on the bag. For my first time, I thought it was easier to be sterile with that method than trying to go agar-to-grain. I knew I was taking a risk though.

Edited by EndlessB (04/06/25 11:03 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: EndlessB]
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got pics:begger:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
got pics:begger:



Maybe, but it'd take me time to find. It was like three months ago now hahaa.

I'll take a look tomorrow and PM you if I find it!

Edited by EndlessB (04/06/25 11:10 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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From my own experience, I had a really hard time recognizing Healthy Growth from a vendor lc syringe on agar. There is a tendency for new cultivators to assume that because a plate shows white growth that it's healthy. There's a lot of competitor molds that grow White as well and I find bacteria doesn't always show up as biofilm, but rather in how the mycelium grows.

I started similar to endlessb and put a vendor syringe to a plate. It wasn't until after I failed a few times that I showed what one of those plates look like to these boards and trusted cultivators immediately identified it as bacterial or otherwise infected. I have no doubt that a tc could look at a lc inoculated plate and identify problems quickly but I'm guessing that it took many many examples to develop the ability to do so. My line of thinking is that those skills started as identifying healthy growth several transfers deep of more traditional agar plates.

I guess what I'm getting at is that there really isn't a shortcut to gaining the sight so to speak. It takes a lot of research and experience in equal measures.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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So is the tub trash?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
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Splittinghairs said:



So is the tub trash?



Not if it happened suddenly overnight. just spores. Wipe off what you can onto swabs (to save for later), wipe the rest with paper towel, and dry the shroom as normal.

Some people hate the taste of spores but I don't like them.

What variety is that?

Here's one of mine that's even darker. I ate these;


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--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
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Edited by nektar61 (04/07/25 02:04 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: nektar61]
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nektar61 said:
Splittinghairs said:



So is the tub trash?



Not if it happened suddenly overnight. just spores. Wipe off what you can onto swabs (to save for later), wipe the rest with paper towel, and dry.

Some people hate the taste of spores but I don't like them.

What variety is that?

Here's one of mine that's even darker. I ate these;




B+

It’s recent enough but hard to say.

I left Thursday’s morning out of town and two of the guys were teetering on shit. I just got back Sunday night.

When I left the more than likely culprits were half the size they were. So more than likely I would guess they were ready for harvest Saturday morning and said fuck me yesterday.

I posted and wiped off the caps. The bigger guys caps broke but they weren’t soggy. Just flimsy. Three em in my dehydrator just not sure what to do with tub.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs] * 1
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Splittinghairs said:
B+

It’s recent enough but hard to say.

I left Thursday’s morning out of town and two of the guys were teetering on shit. I just got back Sunday night.

When I left the more than likely culprits were half the size they were. So more than likely I would guess they were ready for harvest Saturday morning and said fuck me yesterday.

I posted and wiped off the caps. The bigger guys caps broke but they weren’t soggy. Just flimsy. Three em in my dehydrator just not sure what to do with tub.



It's fine. By "overnight" I mean it happened fairly suddenly, didn't grow from pins looking like that, which might be mold, though I've never seen it that bad.

That's just spores. Wipe them off, they're fine. I would take some swabs though to save for later.


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--GROWING SHROOMS, FROM SPORES TO TRIPS
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