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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Icon] * 1
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Technically pulling the plug is doing Balls and I a favor then -
since we won't have to continue paying into something we weren't going to get anyway


  What about all the money I've paid into it for the last  32 years ?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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Psilynut2 said:
Quote:
Technically pulling the plug is doing Balls and I a favor then -
since we won't have to continue paying into something we weren't going to get anyway


  What about all the money I've paid into it for the last  32 years ?




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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Icon] * 1
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Icon said:
So everything wrong with your life is republicans fault?


:lolwut:
Who said that? 

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"How does it take 10 years to pivot out of something that lasted like, 18 months?"


:lolwut:
What lasted 18 months?

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People have been saying for 25 years that SS will be insolvent by the time we retire, but now's your chance to blame that on politics too?


:lolwut:
They've been saying it since it's inception and it literally is politics, lmao. You need to take a decade to pivot into having a clue about what you're trying to speak on
:hahthatsrich:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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"You're gonna blame politics and politicians for policy decisions!? I suppose next you'll blame bad drivers for car accidents and 3M for PFAS contamination in the drinking water!"
:yeahthatsfunny:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
He was talking about medicare and social security.  Neither of those are welfare.


Both of those are welfare. The fact you paid in is irrelevant, because both programs are redistributive. Ergo, welfare.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
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Just think of how redistributive SS will be once it's privatized.  All that dead money just soaking Wall Street

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
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Kryptos said:
Enlil said:
He was talking about medicare and social security.  Neither of those are welfare.


Both of those are welfare. The fact you paid in is irrelevant, because both programs are redistributive. Ergo, welfare.


https://www.politicsphere.com/difference-between-social-welfare-and-social-security/


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
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Psilynut2 said:
Quote:
Technically pulling the plug is doing Balls and I a favor then -
since we won't have to continue paying into something we weren't going to get anyway


  What about all the money I've paid into it for the last  32 years ?


Gambler's fallacy.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Kryptos said:
Enlil said:
He was talking about medicare and social security.  Neither of those are welfare.


Both of those are welfare. The fact you paid in is irrelevant, because both programs are redistributive. Ergo, welfare.


https://www.politicsphere.com/difference-between-social-welfare-and-social-security/


I'm all hearing is that your against social security like I've been all along. We live to long.  Let's try to bring down the life's age down to 55 again.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Icon]
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Icon said:
Psilynut2 said:
Quote:
Technically pulling the plug is doing Balls and I a favor then -
since we won't have to continue paying into something we weren't going to get anyway


  What about all the money I've paid into it for the last  32 years ?


Gambler's fallacy.



Except its not a coin flip, the government has not called heads successfully since  it's inception....its not soley a game of chance, home slice.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Edited by SirTripAlot (04/03/25 04:18 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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It's still a gamble if the % chance of getting benefits is decreasing at a fixed rate. Thinking that you're entitled to the same results as the people that already retired because you paid for 35 years is not a guarantee, nor that paying for 10 more years will increase your chances of getting it.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Icon] * 2
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You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the definition of "gambling."  Buying insurance isn't gambling.  Social Security is the same thing.

Also, you're wrong. The chances of getting benefits increases as you get older because your life expectancy gets higher as you get older.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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The White House has been trying to sell the lie that the tariff rates were created with a sophisticated formula, but people quickly noted the algebra just works out to 1/2 the trade deficit/imports





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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
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Dow is down almost over 1500 points

Nasdaq is down 5%


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (04/03/25 08:14 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Icon]
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Icon said:
Psilynut2 said:
Quote:
Technically pulling the plug is doing Balls and I a favor then -
since we won't have to continue paying into something we weren't going to get anyway


  What about all the money I've paid into it for the last  32 years ?


Gambler's fallacy.


Gamblers fallacy implies throwing good money after bad without a logical reason to expect success but SS has been wildly successful at doing what it was designed to do

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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It appears that this whole tariff scheme is the brainchild of ChatGPT



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: vicepope]
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vicepope said:
I'm all hearing is that your against social security like I've been all along. We live to long.  Let's try to bring down the life's age down to 55 again.


I'd be glad to help you shorten your lifespan.

Feel free to reach out to me for suggestions anytime.:smile2:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Icon said:
Psilynut2 said:
Quote:
Technically pulling the plug is doing Balls and I a favor then -
since we won't have to continue paying into something we weren't going to get anyway


  What about all the money I've paid into it for the last  32 years ?


Gambler's fallacy.


Gamblers fallacy implies throwing good money after bad without a logical reason to expect success but SS has been wildly successful at doing what it was designed to do


It goes both ways. It's also the expectation that because things have been successful, they will stay successful. Even though it's demonstrated that its success is not sustainable if it continues with the same inputs

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Enlil said:
Kryptos said:
Enlil said:
He was talking about medicare and social security.  Neither of those are welfare.


Both of those are welfare. The fact you paid in is irrelevant, because both programs are redistributive. Ergo, welfare.


https://www.politicsphere.com/difference-between-social-welfare-and-social-security/


Applying a political definition to a word in an effort to change the messaging doesn't really change the fundamental reality that social security payments are, in fact, welfare payments.

Edit: more specifically, social security is an insurance program designed to pay people in need, as a redistributive form of poverty prevention for the elderly. Which basically fits the provided definition of welfare.

There has always been a concerted message attempting to distinguish between "welfare", like the kind poor black people collect, versus "social security", which is what temporarily disadvantaged white senior citizens collect.

Edited by Kryptos (04/03/25 10:43 AM)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Icon] * 2
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Icon said:
ballsalsa said:
Gamblers fallacy implies throwing good money after bad without a logical reason to expect success but SS has been wildly successful at doing what it was designed to do


It goes both ways. It's also the expectation that because things have been successful, they will stay successful. Even though it's demonstrated that its success is not sustainable if it continues with the same inputs


So what? Lot's of things aren't sustainable with the same inputs.  Agriculture is probably the most obvious example.  Are you suggesting that continued investment in agriculture falls under the gambler's fallacy? 

"Uh-oh, the fields need fertilizer.  Better just pack it in, boys.  Wouldn't want to get caught up in the gambler's fallacy"
:smilingpuppy:

In any case, with regard to SS that's a very simple policy fix.  Just scrap the payroll tax cap for high income earners.  There's no good reason for there to be a discount for the people who least need it and it only exists to help drive the program into insolvency.

Why don't you try the post office next? That's one of my favorite GOP talking points to slap down

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