tree frog said:

I'm not really sure why it doesn't colonize grains well.  Possibly, they struggle to produce the enzymes to penetrate grain hulls easily.

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Okay, let me see if I got this right. So the hyphae secrete enzymes onto or into the food source. The enzymes break down carbohydrates and proteins, which are then absorbed through the walls of the hyphae.

In layman terms it uses enzymes to break down complex sugars(3 or more sugar units that are attached together via long and/or branched chains.) to simple sugars(1 and 2 sugars units).

If bisporus is struggling to produce digestive enzymes on most grains, then grains are lacking or have too much of one or more "ingredient(s)". Wheat is my preferred grain, has anyone tried bisporus on wheat?

And if it does thrive on popcorn, then the question is, what does popcorn have or don't have, that most grains do or don't? Well, Zea mays are cultivated specifically as popping corns. The Zea mays variety everta, a special kind of flint corn, is the most common of these so I'll assume ladyfinger is flint corn. Hulless apparently only means small kernel. Popcorn have a core of soft, wet endosperm surrounded by a layer of hard, stony endosperm.

Even though my wheat is unmalted it is cultivated for the purpose of brewing beer, that would imply that it is a soft wheat and I can't see why it should be more of a challenge for bisporus to break down wheat vs popcorn, or?


As far as I can see, there isn't any concerning vitamins or minerals values in wheat compared to popcorn, so what then, is it that bisporus is lacking or not liking about other grains? Popcorn has 30% more zinc, then again wheat has 50% more nitrogen, how much of that is bioavailable to the mycelium I don't know and can't find anything about..

Sorry for just thinking out loud here, but there's got to be a reason bisporus is stalling on most grains..

When you add fertilizer to your grain prep, do you rinse with water after boil?

rhizoRider said:

Hey enthusiasts

Finally found wild pan cyans in phillipines cebu island mountains

Also found more purple pink, blue bruising gyms on same logs as last may.

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What a wonderful find! It would be amazing if you could print, or clone, and share the genetics. I can't remember anyone here growing the shrooms from the Philippines, at least, it's not very popular to grow anything from this part of the world.
It would be great if this genetics could stay among the shroomers, as it did with Burringbar or BVI, for example. Landrace shrooms have their own personality. I can feel it with every cell and sense, there is something special about them.


Burringbar

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  Bispo likes to stall out on most grains

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put some bisporus on wbs last week. saw this post now

Baba Yaga said:

So what amount of fresh Burringbar have you guys tried? I have a window to journey tomorrow. The wife and kid went on vacation for a few days, just a couple of cats around.

Torn between Bbar fresh or some dry subtrops which I haven't tried yet either

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RoscoeReturns said:

I’ve had no problem running bisporus on wheat.

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tree frog said:

I have some bispo on plates and just prepped some millet, wheat, rye jars that came out nice.

I'll try a wedge inoculation with it and then once I have the culture in LI, hit it with that if it hasn't taken off yet.

And I may have been overstating Mackload, it stalled on millet and rye for me and when I asked about it other folks , but not everybody, said they had had issues with pans generally on some grains.  I think prep and inoculation method may have as much to do with it as grain choice.

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Cool, excited to see how it goes