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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 2
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SupaThaRipper said:
It's not hoogshagenii. It's subtropicalis hoogshagenii var convexa. Huge difference. But can you hold your plate up to the light. subtropicalis is in section Zapotecorum and can pigment but not usually. it looks like that plate finished colonizing in like 2 weeks which isn't impossible but definitely unlikely. Would like to see a better picture of it.


Did a transfer and sent a chunk to grain. Got excited. Here is a better pic of that T1 plate. None of the other Subtropicalis I've been observing have pigmented this strongly. I have seen some that weren't perfectly white and darkened slightly in the center. I may just be cheering on the contam.



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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: GnomeEra]
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Why did you believe you had hoogshagenii genetics? I’ve had plenty of pigmented growth.
What’s your source?

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao]
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The Tao said:
Why did you believe you had hoogshagenii genetics? I’ve had plenty of pigmented growth.
What’s your source?


Not trying to stir anything up. That's what the print said. That may not be what it actually is. Not claiming to be sure I have anything in particular. I'm assuming Hoogshagennii as I understand it is a phenotype of Subtropicalis anyway, right? Might be cultivating some kind of contamination in this case. I'm not sure. I'm just having fun and trying to learn something new.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: GnomeEra] * 6
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I wasn’t implying anything either. I’m happy to follow your grow and I’m looking forward to whatever comes from it.
I’m hoping for pointy caps. Pointier than these.

Edited by The Tao (02/18/25 09:31 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: GnomeEra] * 1
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To be honest, as crazy as it sounds, I'm not 100% sold that it's contamination. I've had zapotecorum pigment hard like this, though not completely solid. The speed of growth is the more concerning part. How's it smell? Does it smell good. Personally, I would send it to grain. What's the worst that could happen, you lose some grain big deal. I would have never fruited zapotecorum if I refused to send my first yellowing culture of Texolo 😂

Don't worry about the hoogshagenii thing. It happens all the time. The common variety of subtropicalis that's grown the most is subtropicalis, hoogshagenii var convexa (HVC.) And then there's Psilocybe hoogshagenii. Not even close in relation to each other. It's better to just call what you have subtropicalis HVC to avoid confusion.

Edited by PhenoDreamers (02/18/25 10:17 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao]
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He's not going to get pointy caps. I can tell all day thats not hoogshagenii on the plate.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 2
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It’s probably an older print from when Semperviva was being called hoog VC


These damn exotics getting reclassed all the time :lol:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: A.k.a]
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Yeah 😂 and there's still work to be done hoogshagenii lol. I suspect there will be more renaming with that one in particular in the near future.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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What the consensus on subtrop spores shelf life?

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 3
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Subtropicalis spores when stored properly remain viable somewhere between 1 month and 20 years possibly maybe.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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Hahaha thanks well that's better than "only several months"
That for some reason I was associating with them, but probably woodlovers I'm thinking of?

Edited by LewDoja (02/19/25 12:41 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja]
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Spores are such a damn toss up dude. I don't know if we will ever know for certain. Are you having problems germinating some?

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 2
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Work on them when you get them and make prints every grow. I’ve had growth with year old prints but fresh prints have worked better for me.
I store prints in the dark at 17 Celsius +/- a couple.
I’ll have to find my oldest print.

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 1
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No, no problems but just found a print gifted from 8/2023 and was curious as to if it's worth any trouble. For some different genetics than what I've been running, not that I've been disappointed at all with pins in 2 weeks from spawn

Edited by LewDoja (02/19/25 12:55 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 1
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SupaThaRipper said:
To be honest, as crazy as it sounds, I'm not 100% sold that it's contamination. I've had zapotecorum pigment hard like this, though not completely solid. The speed of growth is the more concerning part. How's it smell? Does it smell good. Personally, I would send it to grain. What's the worst that could happen, you lose some grain big deal. I would have never fruited zapotecorum if I refused to send my first yellowing culture of Texolo 😂

Don't worry about the hoogshagenii thing. It happens all the time. The common variety of subtropicalis that's grown the most is subtropicalis, hoogshagenii var convexa (HVC.) And then there's Psilocybe hoogshagenii. Not even close in relation to each other. It's better to just call what you have subtropicalis HVC to avoid confusion.


I will definitely use the HVC terminology going forward. There wasn't any notable smell when the plate was open. It can be tough to tell much with an N95 mask and a bit of congestion. It is in the hands of the grain gods now!


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: LewDoja] * 1
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Shit dude only a year and a half old. Id mess with !

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 14
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Basically hydroponic semps considering the grain is swimming in water lol. Just cased oats


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: EniQma] * 1
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The floating lotus :wobble:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: EniQma]
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EniQma said:
Basically hydroponic semps considering the grain is swimming in water lol. Just cased oats



:canthelpbutlaugh::nicesmile::heart::heart:

They sure love that water flow yo :rofl:


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: astra] * 10
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Anyone else think semps are some of the coolest looking fruits out of any species?



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