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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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I was hoping to bag up and PC some hydrated wood chips this week.

I normally dump wet chips on concrete then move them around a few times until there's no excess water.

But it's snowing today, and the last time I tried to do this in wet weather, the chips came out too wet in the bag.

Any tips for drying wood chips in wet weather?  might try to drain/dry them in the garage on that covered concrete.

Do people ever add dry chips, dry sawdust, or anything else to even out the moisture content of wet wood chips so that there's no pooling water in bags?

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic] * 1
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Generic said:
I was hoping to bag up and PC some hydrated wood chips this week.

I normally dump wet chips on concrete then move them around a few times until there's no excess water.

But it's snowing today, and the last time I tried to do this in wet weather, the chips came out too wet in the bag.

Any tips for drying wood chips in wet weather?  might try to drain/dry them in the garage on that covered concrete.

Do people ever add dry chips, dry sawdust, or anything else to even out the moisture content of wet wood chips so that there's no pooling water in bags?




I typically throw in a handful of HWFP if my substrate is too wet. they soak up and absurd amount of moisture so take care not to overshoot it and get dry spots.

I feel you though winter makes this stuff way harder. Got me fermenting bagged mulch in my basement lol.


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Edited by Blufuut180 (02/03/25 09:54 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Blufuut180] * 13
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The neighbors had to buck up a downed maple, and I seized on the opportunity to grab a bucket full of maple shavings.  Gotta love folks who keep their chain sharp, perfect flakes.  I up potted some berries and made sure to spread around the azzie myc.  I always fertilize with organic fertilizer before mulching plant pots with chips, this time it was a lot of worm castings as that's all I had on hand.  Chips steal nitrogen from the soil, so I try to balance for that.  The fertilizers do nothing to help the mushrooms, just want my berry babies healthy.

I had a lot of leftover shavings and used them to make a hanging basket ala trout's Psilocybe makarorae.  Mine is lined with oregon green moss and filled with layers of fresh shavings and azzie myc.  I don't know if it will work given the low spawn ratio, but it might be cool.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

Edited by Mr Piggy (02/04/25 12:40 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 1
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:heart: lovely Mr.Piggy  i bet makarorae will bust thru trout had those things rocking thru super freezes still growing so strong after slight thaw

Good luck on planters :popcorn:


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
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'Gotta love folks that keep their chain sharp' is one square away from 'gotta love folks that fill their saw with gas and bar oil'. :lol: Or 'folks that put tires on their car before going for a ride'.

That's beautiful, Mr P. Can't wait to see that basket in full swing.
Do you have experience with flakes as sub? I have an awful lot of that stuff but always thought the mycelium would prefer chips. I mean there's also a neverending supply of chips, but hey, I'm in for, you know, anything.


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: rhizoRider]
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rhizoRider said:
:heart: lovely Mr.Piggy  i bet makarorae will bust thru trout had those things rocking thru super freezes still growing so strong after slight thaw

Good luck on planters :popcorn:



It’s just azzie myc, but exciting none the less!


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Churpee Choozle said:
'Gotta love folks that keep their chain sharp' is one square away from 'gotta love folks that fill their saw with gas and bar oil'. :lol: Or 'folks that put tires on their car before going for a ride'.
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You would think 😩


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
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I'm still in the planning stages, but I want to experiment with keeping azzie mycelium beds alive through a Climate Zone 4a winter. We get cold snaps down to -40c, and have weeks/months around -20c.

This is some data on the last year's temperatures:



Im thinking on using a combination of Hemlock/Fir Mulch, straw, and perhaps tarps to insulate the bed during the winter. My yard gets covered with about a foot of snow over the winter so I'm sure that will help as well.

Is there anything I'm missing as a way to insulate the ground?

Also, what do you think would be the best time to start insulating? I'm torn between right at planting, during the first true cold snap (~-10c) or after harvest.


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Edited by PuffM4gicDr4gon (02/04/25 03:34 PM)

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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OK i'm bringing lots of wood chips to a boil to experiment with NOT sterilizing chips in bags this time.

Bringing the chips to a boil will hydrate them, hopefully.  my instinct is to bring them to a rolling boil for 10 minutes, but alaskappalachian said it's enough to just bring them to a boil, i believe (maybe in reference to oysters).

These could colonize in 5-gal buckets,
or nursery pots with holes in the bottom,
in a basement.

how much do they need to breathe? should i limit any substrate to 4" thick, like when growing in pots, (unless there are more air holes)

what spawn:substrate ratio would be reasonable here.  probably pretty high to combat contamination from not having a sterile environment...  1:1?  1:2?

I see people have grown in totes like this before... i'm just thinking that adding drainage holes is all that's needed if kept 4" deep.  that's why i'm thinking nursery pots...

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Generic] * 2
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Yeah I lazy prep material for oysters because it's enough to kill off competitor molds and (within the parameters specified for spawn in said tek) works like clockwork for those buckets.  I've prepped woodchips for woodlovers like that too and they all colonized just fine.  I'm sure some people on here wouldn't bother even doing that for woodlovers,  but the correct answer would honestly be proper pasteurization temps (~140 for an hour or so...ish).  I'm lazy though,
and woodlovers are bulletproof.
Pots, totes, cloth pots, etc are all great.  Definitely seems like you don't want to go too deep initially.  You can go low on spawn ratio for (most) woodlovers.  It's best to start with colonized chips as spawn to help keep critters and crawlers at bay (you can boil and sterilize chips and whatnot in jars or bags as with grain).  1:4 or 1:5 or so seems to work for me for pots just fine and they colonize quick AF.
Whatcha growin?
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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: alaskappalachian] * 10
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fabric pots are metatek cuz the myc will colonize thru the fabric and you can just move them around for extremely lazy/easy spreading or starting new patches by just placing them on top of some new mulch or woodchips whatever

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: catnip40] * 1
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That's fuckin sick :rockon:

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: alaskappalachian] * 2
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This year I'm running with
2 diferent clones of cyans
caeruleorhiza
alenii
India Wood Lover
and Oysters

Already got lots of the cyans eating chips in xls bags, and like 10 more quart jars of grain ready to experiment with. (So i could do chip spawn to more chips in a basement once the bags finish colonizing, and/or i could do grain spawn to chips)

I have a big, shallow, plastic fabric pot that's like 4' in diameter and circular.  I bet that'd be perfect for this application, but it's too big to move around once it's full (aside from dragging); i'd have to make a base to carry it out of the basement... so that might be better done outside when temps are warmer.

I just let the pot of wood chips come to a hard rolling boil last night for idk how long before i remembered it... it was probably above 140 for an hour or so.  Then i turned it off, and it's still sitting.  going to try to put some cyan clones and maybe oysters to that today.

Inspired by your bucket tek, I put 3 jars of spawn (that had been in the fridge for 9 months!) into this old repurposed 'worm bin' (a tote with holes drilled in the sides and bottom), i put it inside a plastic bag and let it colonize.  It colonized quickly and now i'm not sure what to do with it.


I'm thinking I want to evict the oysters from this bin and use it for colonizing again.  If I just plop this on the floor or a shelf of an outside greenhouse, with no bucket or chamber, would it maybe fruit?  at the moment, it's inside in a very dry environment where it doesnt want to fruit.  Maybe i'll plop it on a piece of plastic in the garage and see if it fruits there...  I had no plan, but it sure colonized well

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: catnip40] * 3
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catnip40 said:
fabric pots are metatek cuz the myc will colonize thru the fabric and you can just move them around for extremely lazy/easy spreading or starting new patches by just placing them on top of some new mulch or woodchips whatever



I visited a freind's place where he was doing this and it was VERY effective.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 6
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I think LandTrout was using the same idea with great success also.

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 3
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He sure was, that guy is constantly spreading myc.


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Smellyhobbit said:
"Wiping a needle with isopropyl after flame sterilization is like shitting after you wipe your ass."

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: YoshiTrainer] * 6
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Yeah happi hyphae turned me onto them as well! I have some going right now and going to have my first outdoors going this year! 2025 is going to be magical 🌈

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Do you guys have link for these fabrics? That sounds really cool, I'd love to try it!


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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: cybesa] * 2
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Just look up fabric pots on Amazon. I went with the 5 gallon ones for outdoors here

AC Infinity Heavy Duty Fabric Pots, 5 Gallon Aeration Reusable Grow Bags 5-Pack with 500G Thick Nonwoven Fabric and Multi-Purpose Rings, for Low Stress Plant Training Fruits, Vegetables, and Flowers https://a.co/d/3M6vDLD

And then I also got a ton of 1 gallon ones for indoors

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Re: The Official Woodlovers Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers]
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This is a really really cool thing, cheers, man! Good thing I found out about it just in time before the outdoor-bed creation period :grin:


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