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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LewDoja]
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LewDoja said:
I'd wait till 100.01% to shake. That way you know for sure it was fully colonized and can spawn a day two when signs of recovery.



I'm trying to be patient, but I was wondering if it is normal that the top grains take longer to colonize? How does my jars look in general?

Jar 1




Jar 2




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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman] * 2
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5 gr BRF, .5 gr yeast (nutritional, dried flakes), 10 gr agar (per liter, I make smaller batches). Boil it, jar, PC, let cool a bit, pour. Pretty much all particles will remain in the last 15 or 20% of the liquid. If you pour this part you get pretty opaque plates.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman] * 1
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It's just personal experience, but I would recommend you to, if possible, skip the brf agar. It can grow myc for sure, but it's opaque so it's harder to tell apart contamination. If you do pre-pours, the brf almost completely sediments to the bottom and you have barely any nutes in the top of the plate, and even if you do normal pour and shake the agar bottle before pouring, I think because of the brf sedimenting the results are not constant and the same culture might look different from plate to plate.

I've used 0.5, 1, 1.5, 2 and 4% brf to the normal 2% agar and water. I think my issue was the brf sedimenting and having low nutes at the top of the plate, so my cultures looked better with 2 and 4% brf than with lower nutes. Or maybe it was just my bad batch of brf all along. Anyways I'd recommend you do a small test with 1, 2 and 4% brf just to see how your cultures react to each.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Radamanto]
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what could have gone wrong?

dried out?

some caps turned black and others got teared while growing


Edited by MidnightSun (01/12/25 09:56 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies] * 2
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Huskies said:
Jebi said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
All in one plastic ball jar lids


You don’t have to modify any jars anymore just a quarter turn opened when you put it into the PC and these work fine. No more replacing rusty lids.



Isn't the SFD there for FAE?  or do you keep the lids a 1/4 loose after inoculation?



Those lids are not canning safe according to the website. Says non-canning for usage.

If they are made with plastic, you need pp5 ones. Ball seems to have discontinued their old ones, they were white tops. I bought some knockoffs recently. I remove any silicone ring, and yeah, just turn the lids a tiny bit after shaking them.



Those are all I use, they're 100x better than the white plastic ones,  imo. They're not used for canning because they don't self seal by pulling a vacuum, like the 2 piecemetal lids. They're Perfectly fine for spawn.



They don't warp either.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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^ i stand corrected. are these pp5 as well then?

I still have an old stash of white ones I use. What makes these better in your opinion?

Haven't been a fan of the knockoff ones I got, seems like I need to unscrew it more for the proper FAE.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies] * 1
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They're much sturdier, they don't warp, and they're "taller". Better for unmodified use, imo. Yes, pp5.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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...does the warping affect anything? Cause my white ones are all warped and I've always assumed it was just aesthetic


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Huskies] * 2
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I wouldn't use warped lids.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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What is considered a relatively average amount of days from inoculation of grains until harvest of the first flush?  I realize there are different grow approaches, but what is a realistic expectation for PF Tek and a spawn to substrate shoebox, for example?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KauaiOrca]
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They’re honestly seems to just be a bit too much variability to give you a definitive answer. It depends on the genetics and the environment that you’re attempting to grow it in. Mostly it depends on genetics.

If you’re bringing clean grain to the spawn.

Just have patience as long as it looks fully colonized something is going to happen eventually.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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What you guys think of this Idea Growing Mushrooms in a Oven? The Heat source comes from the the light bulp temps are constantly 28 Celsius the Humidity can later in fruiting stage with hot water bringing up the humidity and when it's too humidit then open the oven.

Know i just let the Bulk cologize full then open the bags the light is maybe enough lux for fruiting?

Maybe a ideal place for growing some stuff just becareful not heat it up lol

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fiet] * 1
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or you could put the bags anywhere in your place, then use the oven to bake yourself a cake for your approaching Shroomiversary  :cool:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fiet] * 3
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Fiet said:



What you guys think of this Idea Growing Mushrooms in a Oven? The Heat source comes from the the light bulp temps are constantly 28 Celsius the Humidity can later in fruiting stage with hot water bringing up the humidity and when it's too humidit then open the oven.

Know i just let the Bulk cologize full then open the bags the light is maybe enough lux for fruiting?

Maybe a ideal place for growing some stuff just becareful not heat it up lol



I’m not trying to be an asshole, this is a genuine question. Why do you always dream up some random ridiculous way to try and grow mushrooms, while never taking any of the advice given you? There are literally decades worth of proven techniques outlined on this forum, as well as dedicated cultivators giving their experience and knowledge freely to those who ask. Pick one, any one proven tek, follow it to the letter, get shrooms AND a better understanding of the life cycle of the organism. Observe, ask questions, and learn from your mistakes. You’ll soon have more mush than you could ever need, and a knowledge base from which to try new and different techniques.

To answer your question, no, don’t cult in an oven.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
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GenesisCorrupted said:
They’re honestly seems to just be a bit too much variability to give you a definitive answer. It depends on the genetics and the environment that you’re attempting to grow it in. Mostly it depends on genetics.

If you’re bringing clean grain to the spawn.

Just have patience as long as it looks fully colonized something is going to happen eventually.



The reason I asked is I just harvested a first flush from a jar I inoculated 27 days ago and this is my first grow in about 8 years and I can't remember how long it took when I grew back then. This one seemed to fruit relatively fast but I'm just curious how long it takes with different growing approaches?

Because I inoculated the jar with LC and shook it I never had to break up the mycelium and shake it again or spawn it so it never had to recover and re colonize. Then I just top fruited it out of the jar and am wondering if that cuts the total number of days from inoculation to 1st harvest?



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Edited by KauaiOrca (01/12/25 12:45 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload]
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Mackload said:
or you could put the bags anywhere in your place, then use the oven to bake yourself a cake for your approaching Shroomiversary  :cool:




I am careful buddy but at home i don't have 28 Celsius only 19-22

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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Hello all,

As I'm a red blooded American male I have a lot of insecurities about enlarging all things mushroom shaped so I'd like a little reassurance if you're all willing to provide it.

Here's the T.L;D.R.:
How do my surface conditions look and should I be spritzing more or less water? What about a couple of fans set on low a good distance away from the tub? Is that too much air moving around? Thanks!

A more detailed explanation and questions:

I've worked my way through a lot of the "growing and its proper conditions" threads that have been suggested (and some others), but did so after purchasing an all-in-one kit off of Amazon and watching some videos on Youtube. I know to many here this is tantamount to heresy, but I was unaware of this site until later when I went looking for a few answers and found them provided here. My girlfriend and I are going to start amassing the supplies to start working with agar soon since that seems to be the starting point that is most often recommended from what I've read. We have a bit of kit that we purchased to go along with the A.I.O. and that will transfer over to a more "traditional" grow so far as I can tell.

Anyway, we've made it to pins with our A.I.O., but what my g/f and I are debating now is how wet the surface should be in the inflatable monotub we purchased. To my eye, it seems that in most of the pictures of "proper surface conditions" we've reviewed seem to have lots of water beads, and we've had some trouble maintaining those. However, I've also seen some that have little to none as well. As I understand it there should be lots of beads, but no pools of water. We do have a hepa filter going near by, as well as a ceiling fan and another small room fan far across the room all set on low to encourage f.a.e. but I'm now thinking that there's too much air moving and drying out the substrate/mycelium? One other possibly pertinent piece of info is that located in between the tub liner and wall of the tub are a few "side pins" growing and appear to be doing so under a spot of condensation on the tub wall. None seem to exist elsewhere in between the liner and wall where no condensation exists but mycelium still does. Is this a sign that overall it needs to be misted more since at least in that spot pinning is happening where the condensation has gathered? Should we just remove and toss those pins so they don't rot? I seem to remember seeing that mentioned somewhere.

Below are a few pictures of our current situation. Any suggestions or reassurance  would be greatly appreciated as of course, I'd like the largest yield possible and to my eye it seems like there's a lot of "dead space." Am I just being impatient and it will likely fill out as time goes on? We are of course stoked to have made it this far and produced anything at all, but if we can improve things now and do even better then why not go for it? Or if any major errors stand out, or if you'd like, please offer any generalized advice on our current spot we'd really appreciate that as well.

Oh, and if there's any information I'm leaving out that's needed to provide better answers please don't hesitate to ask.

Tub Exteriors:
#1

#2


Tub Interiors:
#1

#2

#3


Interior Close Ups:
#1

#2


Side Pins Issue:
#1


Quick Edit.
Obviously I got some of my pics out of order here as I haven't posted on a message board in years, but please accept my offering in the spirit it was given LOL. Thx!

Edited by LoneliestEnuretic (01/12/25 02:12 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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How do I fix this?  It was in a monotub with a lions mane grow block.  He’s fine it’s these oyster ones that are doing poorly.  Can I move it to a 5 gallon with holes bucket and break it up?  It was at 90+% humidity but maybe not cold enough

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Fiet]
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Fiet said:
I am careful buddy but at home i don't have 28 Celsius only 19-22



I consistently fruit in conditions below 20C with less than 30% RH. I rarely even pay attention to temperature or humidity, but I have a thermometer that has a hygrometer in it so I know that it generally stays around those numbers.

Don't overcomplicate your grows for no reason, Just set your tub up properly and forget about it until harvest time.

LoneliestEnuretic said:
Hello all,
Here's the T.L;D.R.:
How do my surface conditions look and should I be spritzing more or less water? What about a couple of fans set on low a good distance away from the tub? Is that too much air moving around? Thanks!

  My girlfriend and I are going to start amassing the supplies to start working with agar soon since that seems to be the starting point that is most often recommended from what I've read. We have a bit of kit that we purchased to go along with the A.I.O. and that will transfer over to a more "traditional" grow so far as I can tell.




Your "dead space" is due to genetics, it will most likely not change much on the first flush. To improve that, clone a cluster and grow from that clone.

No need to have any weird fans going, FAE is mainly happening at the level where you have those goofy filters.

Side pinning is caused by improper surface conditions, IE the conditions on the side are more ideal for fruiting so the mycelium does so there. Liners should prevent that.

Don't forget to get some spore prints from your maturing fruits.

Those dang inflatable tubs are so hard to dial in for newbies I wish everyone would just start with PF tek or try out something simple like shoeboxes.

Edited by Axman (01/12/25 02:31 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Axman] * 2
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:whathesaid: Also you really shouldn't have to mist that.  I can tell just by the surface you have now - the way that myc looks - that it's doing fine without.  Don't mat down a nice surface with misting.  You might just get sporadic fruits instead of an even  pinset,  or a more full second flush.  Time will tell.  I avoid fans altogether.  Just dries out my tubs too quickly.  No chance for humidity to recycle- just eternal dryness 💀

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