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#29075639 - 01/03/25 02:32 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I've only been misting that much because it's very difficult to tell the surface conditions, for some reason. I thought it may have something to do with the rather thick verm layer, because I can hardly see any mycelium poking through.

The verm never looks completely 'bone dry', just slightly wet.

With the fruits growing out to the side, would you still recommend to put them all in one?

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#29075641 - 01/03/25 02:34 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Thanks Cronicr. I'd actually been thinking about switching to finer vermiculite, comparing with other people's grows.

Could you explain only leaving for half the day? I had left the current rolled vermiculite layer on for 24 hours, and still, a lot got knocked off while misting.

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#29075683 - 01/03/25 05:05 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

additionally, you could use coco coir instead, lots of people do that too.

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#29075844 - 01/03/25 11:00 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I would put all 4 cakes in 1 tub. You want to reduce the volume of air, so that it can better stay humid.

I also second ziploc bags and shoeboxes for PF Tek, having tried all 3, the water tub tek works the most poorly in my dry house.

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#29075977 - 01/03/25 01:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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#29076377 - 01/03/25 08:22 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

fiddle_head said:

additionally, you could use coco coir instead, lots of people do that too.

I prefer Coco coir for PF cakes, and I also prefer ziplocks over any normal tub. It seems to keep a better relative humidity in my experience. Back when I started I used verm and a SGFC and it was hard to tell how dry the sub was, with coco it will be different colors of brown if it is dried out versus properly hydrated.

I basically run a Fahtlock with water inside the container, and use a jar to keep the PF cakes elevated.

You can get an idea for how dry the cake is by the color change in the coir and mist as necessary, but in the ziplocks I rarely have to. As long as the ziplock has moisture on the side I assume the RH is plenty high enough for fruiting to continue.

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#29076601 - 01/04/25 12:27 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Alright, thanks for the help all.

I've moved all four cakes into one tub and stopped misting. I'm looking into Faht's ziploc tek, and I think I'll give it a try with my next 8 halfpints.

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#29076652 - 01/04/25 02:16 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I don’t have any right up because it’s basically the fat bag tech but after you fucked up.

So if you put all your cakes into a tub, that’s all set up, but you didn’t have enough cakes to properly fill out the spacing.

Just poke some holes and do a Ziploc bag following the pattern they described. Then just open them and put them over the top of the cakes.

I’m not even kidding. It actually worked surprisingly well because the inside of the bags got very humid and I grew some pretty sweet mushrooms that way.

Kind of like a double bubble humidifier.

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#29076689 - 01/04/25 03:43 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

fiddle_head said:

callmehippie said:

About how long should Freshies(cubes) stay fresh in the refrigerator?

as long as they haven't sat out for an extended time prior, aren't incredibly bruised, and have no blotch, they will last. brown paper bag is the way to go as per ladysknight

edit: i try to use them asap. additionally i would monitor their entropy every 24hrs.

"monitor their entropy every 24hrs"

Can you explain what's you meant by this plz?

And thanks for the advice that's what I was looking for. I have been using brown paper bags just wasn't sure how long they would last.

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#29076691 - 01/04/25 03:47 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Jebi said:

I would put all 4 cakes in 1 tub. You want to reduce the volume of air, so that it can better stay humid.

I also second ziploc bags and shoeboxes for PF Tek, having tried all 3, the water tub tek works the most poorly in my dry house.

What do you mean by using shoe boxes? Just curious can you clarify how you use the shoe box?

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#29076693 - 01/04/25 03:48 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I guess he means 'check out their gradual descent into chaos' ie 'degradation'
IME it also helps to keep the bag away from the backside of the fridge, or wherever your cooling element is located. Fridge temps swing. Partially frozen mushrooms look like barf.

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#29076741 - 01/04/25 07:25 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Thank you Genesis!

I think I'll try that for my second flush.

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#29076770 - 01/04/25 08:25 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Shoeboxes are tubs with a volume of about 6 litres. The label on the tub sometimes shows a pair of shoes. Some shoeboxes have vent holes under the handle.
4 PF cakes fit nicely in a 6 litre shoebox. Old picture with perlite.

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#29076894 - 01/04/25 10:57 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

callmehippie said:

What do you mean by using shoe boxes? Just curious can you clarify how you use the shoe box?

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#29076905 - 01/04/25 11:07 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

BODS Unmodified shoebox tek ftw

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#29076919 - 01/04/25 11:32 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Stipe-n Cap has a good one as well.
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#29076956 - 01/04/25 12:09 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

And the real real:
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#29076980 - 01/04/25 12:40 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Jebi said:

Stipe-n Cap has a good one as well.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27426583

Fucking gangsta shows his face in the video. #nofucks

Daaamn I can see stipes sexy face!? *clicks link*

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#29077018 - 01/04/25 01:09 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

What you guys think about this jar? I wont share my thoughts, to avoid planting ideas. Lol

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#29077024 - 01/04/25 01:12 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Searching all my local feed stores. Which aren't a lot cuz I live in big city texas.

But they do have them out on the outskirts. However so far I can't find any millet. Only milo.

And unfortunately the prices are not as good as what I've seen some of you guys say. at least I think. It's looking like 50 lb for 50 something dollars.

But it seems like this may be my only option. So the question is does it make a difference I don't know what Milo is? Does it work?

I haven't even considered looking at any other grains at these places. Because I've only ever worked with millet. But if I'm struggling finding Millet and it's this expensive. Any opinions on the next best cheapest and easiest grain to work with? That I should be able to find at these feed stores

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