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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: phaques] * 2
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phaques said:
So much information here...and so many "this is the most current version of xxx", it is hard to tell.
Anyway, my question is about fruiting PF cakes as described in "updated PF Tek Guide 2023 Edition".
I have dunked and rolled my cakes in vermiculite as described in step six, and I'm ready to put them in the fruiting chamber.
My question - should I use the shotgun fruiting chamber according to Spitball Jedi's tek, or can I use Pastywhyte's EZ Dialed Monotub, which seems to be the more up-to-date version of the "best" monotub?

Thanks!


Water tub is the current practice.

I know what you mean about navigating older info in the beginning. If what you read is more than a few years old, you'll want to verify that is still current. That's really the best way to do it. And at the bottom of a post, there is a number of icons, one of which is a finger with a string - thats how you favorite a post, which you can then find by going up to "account" at the top of the page and then will be listed under "post reminders". I was drinking from a firehose in the beginning and had to reread all sorts of material. Hope that helps!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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Ok, water tub it is then. And with the water tub...lid on tight with no FAE until the outside of the cake is fully colonized?

And...in Meteja's water tub method she rolls in coir. I have used verm. still fine with water tub method?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: phaques] * 2
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Still fine :thumbup:  I like verm better than coir for this tbh.  Looks to me like he uses an unmodified tub with an engineered gap many tubs have to allow for a tiny bit of exchange.  (Sterilite tubs are a good example- the cheap ones at Walmart).  He keeps the lid on until fruiting.  I leave my lid unlatched but sitting squarely on the rim throughout- but that works for my environment.  I'd start with one of the two and see how the surface conditions develop.  Adjust as needed.  There's a great thread on surface conditions on here,  but I can't find it.  If I wasn't fixing my washing machine and listening to Audible I might have better luck lol.  Will try to locate...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: phaques]
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Monotubs then...what is the most current popular practice - SGFC a la Spitball Jedi, or Pastywhyte's EZ dialed monotub?

It is pretty dry where I live in the winter, pretty humid in the summer.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: phaques] * 3
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(I'm assuming you mean this as a separate subject from the water tub project): Personally I love Pasty's tek, but most of my tubs are unmodified.  One thing I found out is that all the verified tub configurations you find on here  can work in virtually all conditions,  assuming you start with proper field capacity, healthy spawn, and pay attention to surface conditions yet don't chickenhawk your tubs and over-manage them.  Although I have a really dry environment from my propane and woodstove,  and find unmodified tubs with minor lid adjustments works best.  It's really about the aforementioned stuff though,  tbh...  Worth paying attention to the people in POTD posting canopies
  It's not for nothing they get these results.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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If you’re talking about PF cakes, you do not want a lot of airspace. It should be crowded and humid in there. So maybe a mono tub won’t be a good choice for this unless you have a lot of cakes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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I think he was posing a separate question, but maybe I misunderstood.  If I did and you did mean what Genesis said: :whathesaid:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: phaques]
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Are you talking about the same PF cakes mentioned in your other posts?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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Sorry - my posts are a little confusing!
Regarding the PF Cakes, I'm set on using the watertub method. And, I'm keeping the lid tight until the cakes are fully colonized (right?).

I posed a separate question about which monotub design you guys think is the most current and effective.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: phaques]
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You need to keep the humidity up so you don’t want the tub to be too big. You do want a tiny amount of air exchange. If you get a cheap shoebox you won’t have to worry about it needing more air. You can just keep the lid on. If you have a very tight fitting box. You might need to keep the handles open, but keep the top on.

It really kind of depends on your personal environment and the conditions in it. That’s dialing it in. But for the most part, you just want a tiny little bit so maybe just keeping the lid on it but not closed all the way or if it’s a cheap enough box, you can just keep it close because there’s already enough airflow flowing in and out.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: phaques]
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How many cakes are you working with?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao] * 4
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I've got ten cakes and I think I have attached a couple of pics of their (new) tub. top is sitting in place, not latched.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: phaques] * 2
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Perfect. I'd barely kick up one end of the lid to make a break in the seal that still exists even without the latch handles on.  You need some kind of air movement to create humidity.  Just a teeny gap, then adjust if needed.  Sometimes I'll make a couple tiny pieces of folded over layers of tinfoil (like 1/8" thick) and mold them around the top lip of the tub where they'll lift the lid off a teeny bit.  Basically if I have a gasketed tub like that I don't want to drill holes in.  I've seen water tubs with holes a la Pasty's tek or with polyfill or whatever work great with water tubs too.  Just need a little air exchange.  That spacing is perfect for that amount though :thumbup:
***edited heavily for clarity :stoned:


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Edited by alaskappalachian (12/31/24 04:58 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: alaskappalachian]
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alaskappalachian said:
Perfect. I'd barely kick up one end of the lid to make a break in the seal that exists wven when sitting without the latch handles on.  You need some kind of air movement to create humidity.  Just a teeny gap, then adjust if needed.  Sometimes I'll make a couple tiny pieces of folded over layers of tinfoil (like 1/8" thick) and mold them around the top lip of the tub where they'll lift the lid off a teeny bit.  Basically if I have a gasketed tub like that I don't want to drill holes in.  I've seen water tubs with holes a la Pasty's tek or with polyfill or whatever work great with water tubs too.  Just need a little air exchange.


Sweet - thanks. I propped one corner up with my thermometer. These things are taking much longer to colonize than I expected, and I guess because I'm a noob it is REALLY hard to leave things alone.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: phaques] * 5
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Nice.  Haha yeah touching your first grows unnecessarily is very similar to crack
:crackvial:
Let us know how she goes


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: The Tao]
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That's beautiful!

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: alaskappalachian] * 1
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alaskappalachian said:
Perfect. I'd barely kick up one end of the lid to make a break in the seal that still exists even without the latch handles on.  You need some kind of air movement to create humidity.  Just a teeny gap, then adjust if needed.  Sometimes I'll make a couple tiny pieces of folded over layers of tinfoil (like 1/8" thick) and mold them around the top lip of the tub where they'll lift the lid off a teeny bit.  Basically if I have a gasketed tub like that I don't want to drill holes in.  I've seen water tubs with holes a la Pasty's tek or with polyfill or whatever work great with water tubs too.  Just need a little air exchange.  That spacing is perfect for that amount though :thumbup:
***edited heavily for clarity :stoned:


That foil trick is just what I needed - Ive been wedging a clothes pin in there, which doesn't stay put. This is a much better idea, and I thank you.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: alaskappalachian]
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alaskappalachian said:
Nice.  Haha yeah touching your first grows unnecessarily is very similar to crack
:crackvial:
Let us know how she goes


Funny... and very TRUE! Extremely hard to accept that those little buggers do what they do when they're good and ready... and not a single minute before.



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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: KauaiOrca] * 3
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KauaiOrca said:
alaskappalachian said:
Nice.  Haha yeah touching your first grows unnecessarily is very similar to crack
:crackvial:
Let us know how she goes


Funny... and very TRUE! Extremely hard to accept that those little buggers do what they do when they're good and ready... and not a single minute before.




I've found that it gets easier when I'm busy af with cult work. I just made up 60 agar plates, harvested a mono, did all the dishes...I wanna park my ass for a while before I get back to it. Loving my subs too much right now doesn't even sound appealing.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 3
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I personally believe fucking with conditions like misting and fanning makes them take longer. I have no proof whatsoever.


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