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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: kirkeng] * 2
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yeah, IME after 12h the surface starts foaming = fermentation begins and we're feeding the sugars to bacteria and yeast, innit?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 999999999] * 3
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I do a 1 hour hot soak, drip dry for 15, PC. Perfect every time.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
It's not your grain prep. Molds don't survive the PC cycle they don't even survive pasteurizing.
Make grain leave one not inoculated
Fake spawn a tub of coir with no spawn just hydrated coir
Chances are neither of these go wrong


Ive left uninoculated jars. They dry out after about 3 months with no sign of contam. Ive also left prepped coir in a bucket for awhile, if that counts. Didnt use it but seemed fine.

Supposedly grains wont sterilize properly if not fully hydrated.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Can you dunk fully colonized substrate in a monotub that is too dry before the first flush? So I can just set and forget about it? Or is misting the only option?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jrey16]
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:cantwashthataway:
I mean, it's ugly and it will ruin the surface... but you can, but why is it that dry?
(technically it's what we do with BRF cakes)


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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AspectOfTheCreator said:
cronicr said:
It's not your grain prep. Molds don't survive the PC cycle they don't even survive pasteurizing.
Make grain leave one not inoculated
Fake spawn a tub of coir with no spawn just hydrated coir
Chances are neither of these go wrong


Ive left uninoculated jars. They dry out after about 3 months with no sign of contam. Ive also left prepped coir in a bucket for awhile, if that counts. Didnt use it but seemed fine.

Supposedly grains wont sterilize properly if not fully hydrated.


Sounds like you have sterile grains then


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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There is probably no causation. Myc does fine at 61º honestly probably lower. Only thing that would have a direct causation are drastic temp swings. If you are comfortable, your mycelium is comfortable. Keep it at the temperature it has been colonizing at.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Xclozure]
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Xclozure said:
What's yalls favorite grain jar colonizing temp. I had an aggressive straing going good at 67-70 but the pan cyan and GT I had were moving super slow so I moved it to a room with a 72-76 temp


Sorry for the extra clarification. I was responding to this. I had left the page up.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head]
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fiddle_head said:
There is probably no causation. Myc does fine at 61º honestly probably lower. Only thing that would have a direct causation are drastic temp swings. If you are comfortable, your mycelium is comfortable. Keep it at the temperature it has been colonizing at.


I keep seeing this, and while I know better than to think I know better, my jars are absolutely colonizing slower since it's cooled off, and I keep my apartment at 71. Ive checked temps and the area the jars are kept is 69-71...the grain jars had sat a while before innoculating though. Suppose the grain dried out some and that is causing the slowdown? I doubt very much it's a contaminate- they look fine and speeds were fine until the last handful of weeks.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said:
It's not your grain prep. Molds don't survive the PC cycle they don't even survive pasteurizing.
Make grain leave one not inoculated
Fake spawn a tub of coir with no spawn just hydrated coir
Chances are neither of these go wrong


That would certainly eliminate the grain and coir as suspect.  Going SAB technique theory?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mr Piggy]
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Say I leave my bucket Tek coir in the garage and it gets down to almost freezing. Can still use it just fine right? Wondering now about temp when it gets packed down and mixed with colonized grains


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pnin]
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I'd bring it inside and let it warm up to room temp before spawning, but I don't see how getting cold would do anything to it :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:
fiddle_head said:
There is probably no causation. Myc does fine at 61º honestly probably lower. Only thing that would have a direct causation are drastic temp swings. If you are comfortable, your mycelium is comfortable. Keep it at the temperature it has been colonizing at.


I keep seeing this, and while I know better than to think I know better, my jars are absolutely colonizing slower since it's cooled off, and I keep my apartment at 71. Ive checked temps and the area the jars are kept is 69-71...the grain jars had sat a while before innoculating though. Suppose the grain dried out some and that is causing the slowdown? I doubt very much it's a contaminate- they look fine and speeds were fine until the last handful of weeks.


The slow down and the temp swing could be a complete coincidence and not a universal intercept point. There are a load of factors you are not considering that coincide with the temp swing no doubt about it.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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QQ

in the movie Highlander.
Why did the director Name Sean Connery’s Character “the Spaniard” when he does nothing about his Scottish accent for the entire film?

Why didn’t he call him? “the Scotsman” instead?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Nichrome said:
ThurmanMurman said:
fiddle_head said:
There is probably no causation. Myc does fine at 61º honestly probably lower. Only thing that would have a direct causation are drastic temp swings. If you are comfortable, your mycelium is comfortable. Keep it at the temperature it has been colonizing at.


I keep seeing this, and while I know better than to think I know better, my jars are absolutely colonizing slower since it's cooled off, and I keep my apartment at 71. Ive checked temps and the area the jars are kept is 69-71...the grain jars had sat a while before innoculating though. Suppose the grain dried out some and that is causing the slowdown? I doubt very much it's a contaminate- they look fine and speeds were fine until the last handful of weeks.


The slow down and the temp swing could be a complete coincidence and not a universal intercept point. There are a load of factors you are not considering that coincide with the temp swing no doubt about it.


Indeed, which is why I mentioned knowing better than to think I know better than established knowledge. They're still colonizing, but it doesn't seem to be as fast as when it was mid-high 70s in my apartment. Oh well...


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 4
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GenesisCorrupted said:
QQ

in the movie Highlander.
Why did the director Name Sean Connery’s Character “the Spaniard” when he does nothing about his Scottish accent for the entire film?

Why didn’t he call him? “the Scotsman” instead?


Only losers whine about accents - winners go home and fuck the prom queen.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 3
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I’m prom king. Does that count.:wink:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pnin]
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Pnin said:
Say I leave my bucket Tek coir in the garage and it gets down to almost freezing. Can still use it just fine right? Wondering now about temp when it gets packed down and mixed with colonized grains


That should be fine, but it wouldn’t hurt to hit it with some boiling water before spawning


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 2
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ThurmanMurman said:
GenesisCorrupted said:
QQ

in the movie Highlander.
Why did the director Name Sean Connery’s Character “the Spaniard” when he does nothing about his Scottish accent for the entire film?

Why didn’t he call him? “the Scotsman” instead?


Only losers whine about accents - winners go home and fuck the prom queen.


Because there was already a Scott, Colin McCloud if the clan McCloud.
I didn't go to prom


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: LadysKnight] * 3
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Fuck the scottsman, there can be only one.

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