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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Bardy] * 1
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Good evening everyone, nice to see you all again.

I'll give my two cent, go straight for stb if you can get your hands on pre shredded mimosa hostilis. My first extract I watched that silly gordo tek video, making bark paste in my old flat kitchen and proceeding to trip balls on what very little I had managed to extract at the time.

The process is so simple a child could do it and the ingredients (Aside from the bark itself) are cheap and can be easily sourced online, however there are still dangerous fucking chemicals involved with stb so grab some gloves and goggles if your going that route.

What ever tek or process you follow - Is it worth it? Absolutely. Here's my breakthrough


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Edited by acidninja (05/30/24 11:47 PM)

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: acidninja]
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Ah. I see. The extraction. Yes? I believe crossing borders in hail and breaking international law is worth it
:lolsy:
But since it was in the experience, I was all ready for it to be about somebody wondering if they should or shouldn't or if the quality was there or what the experience was worth and I was coming to say "Yes!"
Its unique, don't matter if anybody analyzes it down to the basic molecule, DMT isn't like any other and just something that is very difficult to explain because it might be a kinda sacred thing.....some way or another


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"Sometimes the only way for a man to find true happiness is to take drugs in a group" - Cochise

No makin funna my pomes!

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: curenado] * 2
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recharging the battery after 30 hoots is also a big boost (literally) in this alex grey universe.

hahaha, and I was thinking I better get some harmalas.
instead I have opted for electrons rather than maois

hello to an alex grey painted world behind the eyelids



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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
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ah i get it
i understand


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Make love not war
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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
recharging the battery after 30 hoots is also a big boost (literally) in this alex grey universe.

hahaha, and I was thinking I better get some harmalas.
instead I have opted for electrons rather than maois



yay! enjoy rgv!

holy..


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Ferdinando]
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Alex Grey is a weirdo who fucked a corpse for "art." Great artist, though.

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: stareatclouds]
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only oral dmt and smoked dmt would be super

lsd + mushrooms :saulgoodman:

And maybe smoked dmt and maybe oral dmt and maybe both on the lsd and mushrooms :hereyougo: :peace:

the most awesome combination is maybe cactus and mushrooms

mushrooms and oral dmt is a solid candidate
So is oral dmt and smoked dmt

i have only done it on other combinations


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Ferdinando]
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smoked dmt on lsd is beautiful

a very fine experience


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Ferdinando]
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I like my spirits straight up mostly face down at the moment


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: stareatclouds]
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stareatclouds said:
Alex Grey is a weirdo who fucked a corpse for "art." Great artist, though.



I had to look into this and people say it’s just an internet rumour based on a dream that he described to someone.

Still seems like a weirdo though haha


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Bardy]
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He’s an explorer 🤷‍♂️


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
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Yeah I love his art, don’t get me wrong.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Bardy]
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Bardy said:
I had to look into this and people say it’s just an internet rumour based on a dream that he described to someone.

Still seems like a weirdo though haha



A lot of his stans do clean up on it. I think he has people try and scrub it. I did a deep dive like a year ago and it was almost certainly a real thing that happened. Someone found the original letter published in an art magazine he wrote, referencing another "artist" who'd fucked a corpse (confirmed). Alex referenced the fact he'd already done it and said he could've warned this guy about the problems doing such "art." This is clear confirmation he'd done it.

You have the dream part of it messed up, but that's the bullshit narrative his stans spin to obfuscate the truth. The actual act was real, but the woman (in her living form) had shown up in his dreams. He dreamt about the woman he had violated and she was essentially haunting him or something like that. And he got the inspiration to defile a corpse from a dream he had initially. But he definitely did the actual deed.

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Here:

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90. In response to an article about Blind Date in the Los Angeles publication Wet, artist Alex Grey wrote a letter to the editor describing his performance Necrophilia (1976), in which, photographed by his wife, he had sex with a mutilated corpse. He wrote, Perhaps John Duncan would not have had to put himself through the mental agony, had he seen that I had done the piece several years before... A day has not gone by that I haven't thought of the necrophilia piece (Alex Grey, More Sex with the Dead, Wet, July "August 1981, n.p.). Duncan was unaware of Necrophilia when he performed Blind Date, but given his emphasis on individual experience, it is unlikely that he would have been deterred. For more on Alex Grey, see Lewis MacAdams, It Started Out with Death, High Performance 5, no. 3 (Spring Summer 1982): 43 "49.

— Long Suffering: American Endurance Art as Prophetic Witness by Karen Gonzalez Rice, Associate Professor of Art History at Connecticut College



And here's something he wrote to another magazine referencing it:

Quote:
More Sex With The Dead
(From July/Aug 1981 Issue)

Dear WET,

I read with sadness and some surprise your "Sex with the Dead" article in March/April 1981 WET. In 1976, I had access to a morgue and did a piece called Necrophilia.

Perhaps John Duncan would not have had to put himself through the mental agony, had he seen that I had done the piece several years before.

The necrophilia piece came to me after having a dream that I was fucking a seductive and beautiful living woman who rapidly aged and died as we were making love. She clamped her arms around me and the sides of the bed became a coffin enclosure.

The dream was terrifying but I saw the Necrophilia piece as the ultimate resolution of polarities - Life/Death - if you could love death you could accept and love life more fully.

After doing the morgue pieces I felt less afraid of death, but more afraid of the moral and karmic consequences of my actions. I was heavy into LSD at the time and had a few revelations about our immortality. In 1979 I hallucinated a trial of the souls who were involved. I met the soul of the woman that I had sex with. She was extremely angry and screamed at me saying - didn't I know I was violating her and that she was a person just as I was. I was so sorry, disgraced and disgusted with myself, I cried and begged her forgiveness. She did not forgive me, but I was put on a kind of probation by the judge and told to do good works, not harmful and negative works. A day has not gone by that I haven't thought of the necrophilia piece. I guess, during the past couple of years, I have come to regard the body as a sacred thing as well as a piece of meat.

Alex Grey
Boston



And here are the images someone scanned of that art book that references his corpse "art." It's him holding a corpse that had a lobotomy in black and white. There's also a rotting dog and some other recreations of corpses. It doesn't show him fucking the corpse, but the pictures might be distressing so NSFW warning.

The only people who defend him against these allegations are big fans who pretend none of this is evidence, saying "Necrophilia" was just a painting or that the "violation" happened in a dream. The only way to believe those explanations is to ignore the fact that the dude himself literally said that he did it and regretted it (multiple times). You kind of have to dig to find the shit I referenced above, but nonetheless, I consider it pretty obvious he did fuck a corpse. He's a weirdo.

Edited by stareatclouds (06/03/24 04:47 PM)

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: stareatclouds]
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gross, now how are we to get that shit out of our memories, we can't
please take a bit of responsibility for what you share, just trying to prove you are right about something.
yikes
yuck
and feh!


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
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Alex Grey's work really encapsulated the vision of a psychedelic breakthrough but on DMT I saw this blue amorphous blob that also resembled a dodecahedron of ever changing cells made of eyes. Wish I could recreate it through art lol


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: stareatclouds]
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Aw fuck, I haven’t clicked the links yet because RGV has scared me off haha

If that is true that is sooo fucked up…


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
gross, now how are we to get that shit out of our memories, we can't
please take a bit of responsibility for what you share, just trying to prove you are right about something.
yikes
yuck
and feh!



Nothing is shown directly ITT. It's linked and described in detail ahead of time so people should know what to expect. I don't care about proving I am "right" about this. I want people to know that Alex Gray is a legit weirdo that people shouldn't support. I think that's reasonable, especially if people have been convinced it was all some lie or mistaken reading.

The sloth man doesn't support necrophilia. Add Alex Grey to the list with Gary Ridgeway and Ted Bundy and Israel Keyes.

Edited by stareatclouds (06/03/24 04:49 PM)

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
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I’m always hesitant to smoke DMT….
But when I do after the first “trip” my brain screams for more

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: AlwaysHungry1]
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that's like salvia.
the hesitation is realistic
because
for a while you may lose connection with yourself and possibly with the entire known world, but it is fairly benign.

Dreaming is very similar to this type of tripping, except that while sleeping you are unlikely to move your body.

ergo, it is good to have a sitter.


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