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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: schmutzen]
    #5669365 - 05/24/06 04:37 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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That's very interesting, do you know how long this inferior bark has been circulating, could you go more into the difference between the trips?

The Dynamite i've been smoking feels a lot like 5-meo but more visual, comes on slower and instead of feeling like i just kilt myself, it feels more like space-alien-nurses are snuggling up to me.




Lol @ dynamite... never heard it called that. I like it :smile: I've referred to it as "the demonic" before :smile:

anyway, from what I understand the first reports of the bad bark phenomenon started surfacing last fall.

I've never smoked 5-meo before so I cant comment on that. but since we've both smoked nn DMT I'm sure we can agree that the best part is the initial closed eye blast off into the pattern world (I have a hard time describing it, I'm sure you know what I mean). this is "the breakthru". sometimes it involves entites that communicate with you or touch you or do thing to you (you can feel it and it can feel almost orgasmic). I know exactly what you mean about the "alien nurses snuggling up to you". I've had something very similar but I would refer to the entitiy as more of a goddess than an alien, but whatever. theres usually, for me anyway, an intricatlely detailed gridlike pattern that grows and morphs, sometimes it is a place with strange objects or machines and what looks like written language. there is usualy a strong sense of familiarity. you have been here before. when you come back to reality after 2 to 5 minutes, you have this sense of amazement, awe and euphoria. this is accompanied by relatively mild mushroom like visuals... things moving and breathing, light patterning etc. in another 10-15 minutes you're at baseline but have kind of a natural high, just a general good feeling that can last days.

I think I have had the bad DMT and here is what it felt like: the initial rush is there, but the closed eye stuff is muted. the patterns are there but nowhere near as intense and just dark and muted, like you have a black tshirt over your eyes. you never "break through" (for lack of a better word). when you open your eyes, the OEVs are there, but no euphoria or awe, just a sense of dissapointment. The 2 esperiences I have had like this COULD be due to an underdose... but they are also pretty much as what I have heard as the bad DMT experience from other people. some people have descibed an unpleasant body load but I have not expeienced that.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5669371 - 05/24/06 04:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Thankx for the info, JeffersonDarcy..
And I agree, there's no way to tell unless you do the extraction. The best way is to find someone who has, and get the bark from the same place. :wink: :wink:
I got enough info before it went down. I'll check Nook, tho.
Thankx and Peace.




thats not foolproof.

my first and second extractions were from the same place. the first was great, the second is the muted stuff I described in my last post.

Someone who knows his shit advised me that the same vendor I used in my first extraction had a batch of good bark in, he extracted some and got good results. I got some from the vendor and it turned out crappy.

so its possible to have good and bad bark in the same batch from the same place.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5669394 - 05/24/06 04:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yup, that's true. It's always a gamble. That's what keeps life interesting...
It's always nice to grow/produce your own. Sense of accomplishment.
I'm almost ready...


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5669414 - 05/24/06 04:55 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for going into that explanation, I Love talking about the experience; but its hard for me to say whether i like the blast off or the afterglow better. Your experience seems right on with what happens to me as well. Last week I tried about 30mg to get the gigglies, but oh, no i was fully gone; the differce was the part after the breakthough was shorter or maybe i opened my eyes and moved too soon (compared to a larger dose). This bark was over five years old so i do know for shure its the good stuff, and i definately get a great body (and awe) feeling, for me it makes sore muscles and joints just loosen right up.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: schmutzen]
    #5669434 - 05/24/06 05:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yea... I did 30mg of the new stuff and all I got was a weak open eye trip.

how do you smoke it? regular pipe with a carrier herb or in a freebase/meth/crack pipe? a regular pipe is more wasteful but much easier to use and less harsh and in the end, better IMO.

what you have sounds like the good stuff.

DMT will stay good in the bark for a LOOOOONG time. its very stable that way. Its less stable when its in the extracted freebase form, but it still lasts a long time, especially when stored properly.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5669466 - 05/24/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Sorry to hear about that :sad:

Regular glass spoon with the wide funnel.  I put a little bit of buds in the bottom, a layer of damiana, the d, and more damiana on top.  I don't think i've even touched the surface of what can happen, as i still retain some motor control.

I've thought about dissolving it into herb but haven't tried yet.

Maybe yours has less goods and more non-active alkaloids per mg?


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: schmutzen]
    #5669530 - 05/24/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Sorry to hear about that :sad:

Regular glass spoon with the wide funnel.  I put a little bit of buds in the bottom, a layer of damiana, the d, and more damiana on top.  I don't think i've even touched the surface of what can happen, as i still retain some motor control.

I've thought about dissolving it into herb but haven't tried yet.

Maybe yours has less goods and more non-active alkaloids per mg?




nah by carrier herb I didnt mean dissolving it... just making a "sandwich" of it and inactive herbs (or weed if u prefer) just like you described.

and you can retain motor control during the actual peak? with a good dose (with the old stuff) I'm completely gone and dont even realize I have a body.

and yea, I think thats exactly what it is with the new stuff. MHRB is supposed to contain mostly DMT, with a small amount of tryptamine and NMT and some other mystery compounds. its possible if its immature or another spiecies that it contains a whole lot more tryptamine and NMT (both inactive) and less DMT. possibly some slightly active stuff too that make it less pleasurable and cause the crappy body load I have heard about (but not experienced)


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5669587 - 05/24/06 05:58 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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and you can retain motor control during the actual peak? with a good dose (with the old stuff) I'm completely gone and dont even realize I have a body.




On my one good dose (that i didn't need to finish) i could turn my head away and see reality, then turn my head back, close my eyes and see the 'other landscape.' I'd compare it to when dreaming; waking up and moving, then moving back to sleeping position and going back into the dream.

Some day i'll push that envelope, i swear.


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