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Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction?
    #3751642 - 02/08/05 06:08 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

DMT and mescaline are the remaining mind altering substances I wish to try. I know Ayahuasca and San Pedro are equally easily obtainable but which would you say is easier to extract the chemical from. Is it even worth to extract mescaline since you can just pack the peruvian TOrch powder into caps? I am not just talking bout the extraction either but rather the obtaining the supplies etc...Ill even make a poll

Results as of 4:45 eastern time 2/9/05
MESCALINE = 12 Votes 55%
DMT = 6 votes 27%
EQUALLY THE SAME = 4 votes 18%
Which is easier to extract?
You may choose only one
Mescaline
DMT
Equally the same


Votes accepted from (02/08/05 06:08 PM) to (No end specified)
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll



Edited by PsillyNilly (02/09/05 04:50 PM)


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3751662 - 02/08/05 06:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You made the pole the stupid way.

Now when people want to check to see which one is easier, they'll have to choose one.

And people that have no idea how to do either one will probably want to check too, so they'll have to just randomly pick one or something.

It would have been better just to post the question probably.


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3751670 - 02/08/05 06:15 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

What are you talkin about


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3751672 - 02/08/05 06:16 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I just pressed continue and thats what popped up, how else am i supposed to make the poll


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3751677 - 02/08/05 06:17 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

There's no option for people to just look and see.

It would have been better if you put in an option like "I've never done either extractions" as well.

Sigh, never mind, but I wouldn' trust the results of that pole over what someone says... if they've done both extractions.


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3751689 - 02/08/05 06:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Well for whatever I did wrong, Im sorry....I didnt mean to make people not be able to look at the results or whatever your saying


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: HeavyToilet]
    #3751703 - 02/08/05 06:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It should have been:
Quote:

I have extracted both substances - Mescaline was easier
I have extracted both substances - DMT was easier
I have extracted both substances - equally easy
I have extracted only Mescaline - it was easy
I have extracted only Mescaline - it was difficult
I have extracted only DMT - it was easy
I have extracted only DMT - it was difficult
I have extracted neither
I have extracted the fork from my eyes because of your poll
I have extracted Sir-Tokes-A-Lot from my soul
I am Sir-Tokes-A-Lot



:lol:

there are a lot of factors involved in deciding which is easier, I don't think a poll helps, especially not one where to view the results you have to skew the results.


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: delta9]
    #3751777 - 02/08/05 06:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

:lol:

There ya go.


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3752520 - 02/08/05 09:23 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I have heard many people (pretty much everyone I have talked with who has done both extractions) say that the mescaline extraction is much more "forgiving" than a DMT extraction. An extract of the mescaline/DMT crystals is good because you know the exact dosage your taking in, unlike the cacti tea, alcohol extract, and ayahuasca (of course, the effects are quite different with pure DMT crystals - I would guess smoked - and ayahuasca)


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: theocean06]
    #3752746 - 02/08/05 10:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Who cares how difficult or easy it is. Pick which one you want to do, and just do it. Both aren't to complicated and worth the effort. Get your hands on a Bufo alvarius. Good luck getting one though, they're expensive if you want to buy it, and rare as hell if you go hunting. Luckily my buddy keeps 2 as pets, and he extracts the venom from time to time.


Edited by Trainwreck (02/09/05 11:12 PM)


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3752850 - 02/08/05 10:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

bufo toads are 5-meo-dmt, not n-n-dmt...  dmt is extracted from plant material...  or the human brain...  :crazy2:


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #3752897 - 02/08/05 10:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, but you cant honestly tell me smoking 5-meo-dmt isn't going to emerge you into a full DMT experience? I've smoked it many times and every time was more then mind blowing. Also, I think 5-meo-dmt is found in Ayahuasca. So all in all, I understand its not just DMT, and it might not be what your looking for. I've also read that the chance of a bad experience is more common with 5-meo-dmt then n-n-dmt. It sure works though :smile:


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3752901 - 02/08/05 10:47 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Why was that addressed to me? All I said was that the mescaline extraction is more forgiving than a DMT extraction.


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: theocean06]
    #3752924 - 02/08/05 10:51 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

None of this was addressed to you. I was more talking to PsillyNilly in my first post. Then to Tremor in my second about 5-meo-dmt. I just typed my post in the little quick reply box, so it said RE to you, sorry.


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3753661 - 02/09/05 12:38 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Its easier to aquire the plant material then get your hands on one of those toads...but thanks for the advice. I think Im gonna run with Mescaline


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3754617 - 02/09/05 04:16 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Good choice. You'll never forget the first time you tasted the mighty crystal. :thumbup:


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: Trainwreck]
    #3755013 - 02/09/05 08:32 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Trainwreck said:
Yes, but you cant honestly tell me smoking 5-meo-dmt isn't going to emerge you into a full DMT experience? I've smoked it many times and every time was more then mind blowing. Also, I think 5-meo-dmt is found in Ayahuasca. So all in all, I understand its not just DMT, and it might not be what your looking for. I've also read that the chance of a bad experience is more common with 5-meo-dmt then n-n-dmt. It sure works though :smile:




ya, but its not the same, no matter how you want to look at it...


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: PsillyNilly]
    #3756326 - 02/09/05 04:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Mescaline can be made more 'roughly' and neglectedly. I did it with no Ph control, no real equipment, nothing. It takes a lot longer than a D extraction though.

You can just make a tea, add LOTS of lye, add xylene, separate, mix xylene with dilute HCl, evap acid and you have mescaline hydrocloride.

Dmt is a shorter process but it has to be very precise. As hydroxides tend to remain in the final yield you have to be very anal about cleaning it. If you are not precise you'll get goo or colored crystal, etc...If you don't clean the DMT right you'll have super-harsh smoke.

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All in all both are quite easy if you fully understand the processes.

Extracting mescaline is very useful. Do you want to compare eating many dozens of caps of cactus powder that will literally grow in your stomach, turn to snot, and make you sick for many hours to ONE big capsule full of crystalline goodness that will give mild nausea for 30-60mins followed by a clean high dose trip?

A mescaline A/B yields a crystal that is about 80 to 120X the original dried cactus strength. Thus eating one capsule of mescaline is roughly the same as eating 80 to 120 capsules of dried cactus, with the added bonus that it won't make you sick...

Extracted mescaline is the only way i fly :wink:


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: esin]
    #3756485 - 02/09/05 04:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the advice man, I couldnt imagine eating 120 capules....damn.  Anyways, wise words...

*I edited my first poll, just to show the results thus far for anybody who is interested in this topic.  I guess I screwed up the Poll by making people choose before they see the percentages.  Default I guess?!?  Mescaline is leading by wuite a margin and you can subtract one vote from "equally the same"...since thats the choice I had to put to see the results  :crazy: :penis:


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Re: Whats easier...a mescaline extraction or a DMT extraction? [Re: Tremor1127]
    #3757969 - 02/09/05 08:40 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I agree with you. I'm just saying there's plenty of DMT in 5-meo-dmt to send on quite the journey. Even if its not technical DMT.


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