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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: MovingTarget]
    #4132323 - 05/04/05 11:45 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Another question, can you smoke it in any glass pipe? If not does anyone have any pictures of the type of pipe needed? Theres pictures on erowid, but they arent very clear and I cant find a pipe quite like those ones.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: MovingTarget]
    #4132534 - 05/04/05 12:34 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

pictures of a freebase pipe, similar to what you might use for DMT



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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: MovingTarget]
    #4132585 - 05/04/05 12:43 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #4132611 - 05/04/05 12:49 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

I cant actually tell whats what in that pic, is there 6 pipes there?

Is something like this ok?



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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: MovingTarget]
    #4132636 - 05/04/05 12:55 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks motaman


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: MovingTarget]
    #5655419 - 05/21/06 04:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It is for sure worth it! It was also about 999 trillion times more intense then the time I did 9grams of shrooms, and it was awesome!


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Starchild]
    #5655454 - 05/21/06 05:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It can be worth it, but you got to remember that for freebase there are a couple problems.

#1, this shit is hard to smoke. It turns liquid very quickly and tends to run down your pipe.

#2, it is really hard to get enough in fast enough. Most guides will tell you to take three tokes, holding each breath as long as you can. Well that won't work. DMT will take effect really fast and you won't get past one toke. Not to mention the super harsh smoke that smells like buring plastic.

#3, it's just too fast. We're talking a peak of maybe 4 or 5 minutes if you're lucky.

Other than that my friends tell me it's great stuff.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? *DELETED* [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #5655459 - 05/21/06 05:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: soulcircus]
    #5655461 - 05/21/06 05:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

It's too bad the tolerance builds so quickly, because it's a lot easier to toke on that stuff after it's taken effect :lol:


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: soulcircus]
    #5655487 - 05/21/06 06:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Yes is totally worth it, but for me was a bit frustrating at the beginning.
The first times I got very little results, (the secret is in the first toke!) if you don't does not mater how many other tokes you take.
I agree with McKenna’s words DMT shows you the "impossible"
One thing with DMT at least for me it always shows me something completely different, the other thing is that I see every thing almost with me regular state of mind, like if I was literally transported.
I have seen several different entities, futuristic landscapes, and once I was in a room field with very advance technology. (like a space ship)
Other times I see things that are impossible to describe.
And once there was an entity that was doing something to me (I panic)I fought with it, in the end I think it was tiring to align something in my energy body or something so we can communicate better, but time run out.
I have mix feelings with this substance, I don't know some times if is that wise to venture to dimension zeta, some of the things you see there I am not sure if they are friendly or not.
I prefer shrooms any time, shrooms for me are more holistic it also gives more time to digest the experience, DMT sends you like a cannon ball to hyperspace.
On the other hand DMT it pretty amazing. (at least to experience it once)
The other concern that I have I don’t know how healthy is to inhale that plastic tasting smoke?


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: LOBO]
    #5659208 - 05/22/06 04:51 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I think the best way to do it is to inhale very slowly and very deeply, and hold that as long as you can. I don't think extra tokes do anything really. Just one long slow toke, and hold it in for like 20 to 30 seconds.

Almost every guide out there reccomends 3 tokes, I don't know why anyone would do that. Are there any 3 tokers out there who can shed some light on this?


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: myndreach]
    #5662448 - 05/22/06 11:40 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

myndreach said:
DONT USE QTS or any of the erowid methods...they are outdated and will give an impure product from what I hear.

Check dmtworld.org for current information.




For the record, I used QT's a long time ago and I had 100% clear crystals.
I think newer techs use freezing as a way to separate the nonpolar from the polar, whereas QT's uses a seperatory funnel. Don't know if there's other differences.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #5668546 - 05/24/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I have done the ayahuasca brew (active ingredient DMT) quite a few times and it is capable of delivering trips that no human could handle. It is so unbeleiveably powerful, I would never have a need for anything stronger than that brew. I have never smoked DMT pure but from what have heard through many different sources, is that the pure DMT is technically more powerfull but it is not the same kind of profound, spiritual and life changing trip. What do you guys who have done the brew and smoked it pure think? which one is better?


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: andylandy420]
    #5668620 - 05/24/06 12:31 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

" think newer techs use freezing as a way to separate the nonpolar from the polar, whereas QT's uses a seperatory funnel. Don't know if there's other differences. "

Not usually. Freeze precipitation is used to get the material to fall out of the end nonpolar. Freezing is generally done with mesc, as you're trying to get the water out. With current d teks, there's usually only one seperation. The side that would even have a chance of freezing is, in this case, a mess of dark black goop and extremely basic water. wouldn't really work well.

Rather, once the solvent is seperated, it is simply placed in the freezer instead of evaporated. Though, if you want it all to come out, you should reduce it a whole lot first. It'll result in perfectly white crystal. None of the oil/fat of just evaporating (even very little has a huge effect).

QT is fine except: It's pretty wasteful of materials. And: The way it is explained is for very small scale examples.

The easiest method involves much less work, and even better/quicker results.

1. Put kg of powder in 2.5 liter water jug.
2. Cover in water until it is all submerged.
3. Add hcl mixed with water. only 5 tbsp hcl MAX is needed. Shake.
4. Add all your lye water until it's jet black. Should take 3/4 to 1 can per kg. Again, shake.
5. Do your pulls with WARM naptha. Shake each one well and pull it out when it settles.
If you take your sweet time, it could take as long as 4 hours to get your pulls.

Collect all naptha and reduce/freeze/filter.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: Koala Koolio]
    #5668745 - 05/24/06 01:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I like marsofold's tek best....Do you keep the lid on the crockpot while it's heating? Couldn't find the answer to this, and as long as we're talking about this.....
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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5668942 - 05/24/06 02:15 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yes its worth it and like mushrooms, its something every human being should try. If you havent broken through on freebase DMT, you're missing out on one of the more amazing things this world has to offer.

the problem right now is there is alot of mimosa hostilis root bark being sold that is just not as good as it used to be, it could be a different species or immature, who knows. but the experience from the bad bark stinks. you DO trip, as it has SOME DMT in it, but its not what its supposed to be. and there is no real way to know if what you have is the real deal until you extract and smoke it. the crystals that come from the bad bark look and smell exactly like the crystals from the good bark.

oh, and deadhead, you keep the crokpot lid on. You want to get the solution to simmer. it wont simmer with the lid off.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5668977 - 05/24/06 02:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's what I thought, but was unclear in the tek.
I have heard that about the bark that is currently on the market.
Question:
I have seen 2 types of bark. One is a deeper color than the other, and is slightly more expensive. Does this color represent higher content? Would it be worth the price increase?
The usual place for info is currently down, and saw this, so thought I would jump in.
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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5669290 - 05/24/06 04:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

That's very interesting, do you know how long this inferior bark has been circulating, could you go more into the difference between the trips?

The Dynamite i've been smoking feels a lot like 5-meo but more visual, comes on slower and instead of feeling like i just kilt myself, it feels more like space-alien-nurses are snuggling up to me.


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: deadheadjpc2000]
    #5669326 - 05/24/06 04:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

deadheadjpc2000 said:
That's what I thought, but was unclear in the tek.
I have heard that about the bark that is currently on the market.
Question:
I have seen 2 types of bark. One is a deeper color than the other, and is slightly more expensive. Does this color represent higher content? Would it be worth the price increase?
The usual place for info is currently down, and saw this, so thought I would jump in.
Peace




the 2 types you see sold are regular root bark and inner root bark. the only difference is the inner root bark has all of the outer stuff scraped off and has only the inner purple pink stuff, no brown outer skin. supposedly it has higher alkoloid content, I have never heard this actually confirmed. its usually not much more expensive, so if you have the choice go with it.

this has nothing to do with the current situation with bark.

oh and theres lots of other places besides the one thats down to discuss DMT stuff... and the one thats down wasnt allowing chemisty talk anymore. a really good site with a wealth of information on extractions and such is The Nook


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Re: Is DMT worth it? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
    #5669342 - 05/24/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Thankx for the info, JeffersonDarcy..
And I agree, there's no way to tell unless you do the extraction. The best way is to find someone who has, and get the bark from the same place. :wink: :wink:
I got enough info before it went down. I'll check Nook, tho.
Thankx and Peace.


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