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DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips * 6
    #28383595 - 07/03/23 12:12 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

If you do a search anywhere, you'll see glyphs, alien code, Mayan or Aztec symbols, and a bunch of other "secret language" reported throughout our history with psychedelics. Many of you have probably already seen it in trips.

Like 4 months ago, I came across this video:



The person who discovered this isn't a kook. After reading his posts online, he's super grounded in science and doesn't contradict himself anywhere that I've seen. Beyond the code itself code and implications of it, there's nothing fantastical or crazy about his claims. I know that sounds funny, but what I mean is, he's not also talking about Bigfoot or linking people to shit like vaccineconspiraytruthexposed.freesite.cc/alien-autopsy.htm or anything.

I mention this because lots of people, even experienced psychonauts, will naturally write this off as bullshit from some delusional weirdo.

I know it sounds nuts, but I wound up doing it for the fuck of it. Building the laser is very simple so I figured, why not? I tried it with a friend and we both wound up seeing it (as well as other effects the video creator reports with it). The laser does indeed appear to reveal code.

It's not a random pattern, trick of the light, or power of influence at play. It's not a "random" hallucination either. The obvious default explanations you'll think of have already been considered and are not applicable. Perhaps my friend and I are both gullible, saw something else, and just wanted to believe? Maybe, but I don't think so.

I mention this for the same reasons I mentioned how the person in the video isn't a nutjob. Writing it off with the obvious explanation does not work.

While I don't think just seeing the code means we're 100% in a simulation, it's very interesting nonetheless. Perhaps it's just triggering the same mechanism in our brains that originate the code at random? Maybe there's no simulation, but the entities are really there and this is an extension of them fucking with us? I don't know. Regardless, I haven't seen anyone figure out a way to reproduce the same effect repeatedly like this before.

I rarely post on here anymore, but would usually stick to the cultivation part of the forum when I did. Not sure if it shows in this section, but I'm a Trusted Cultivator and have rarely had issues with anyone on here. Much of my time was spent asking questions, learning, and adding new growing tools to my belt. The last half of that time was more geared toward teaching others what I'd learned to repay the boards. I don't grow anymore, but still appreciate the community.

I mention this for the same reasons as before. I'm also not a kook with detached beliefs or a penchant for the supernatural. If you check my posts, I'm well-reasoned, grounded, and pretty damn logical. Rest assured, my self-diagnosis of Dissociative Identity Disorder, history of pathological lying, and frequent bouts of meth-induced psychosis are not factors in this. Ok, I made those up for funsies. But being serious, I legitimately tried this and observed the code; so did my friend.

A specific type of laser is required (650nm, 5mW only). Amazon has it for very cheap and Dan (person in video) has instructions on his channel for how he built his (external battery pack). I found another guide someone else had using a USB cable, which was much easier. If anybody is open to giving this a shot, I'm down to help you get the laser working if needed.

Later, nerds.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 4
    #28383613 - 07/03/23 12:25 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
    #28383641 - 07/03/23 12:43 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)



This is the latest video on the discovery that he's released.

If anybody has any questions about all of this, feel free to ask. I spent quite a bit of time researching his claims before deciding to build the laser. And obviously spent more time researching things after I confirmed he's not FOS. As a result, I've become pretty knowledgeable on his answers to all the more common questions. And I can answer some about the laser from my experience. He's also very responsive through email and happily answered plenty of things I was curious about before trying.

Unfortunately, because he leads off with the "proof we're in a simulation" thing, I think 95% of people likely think he's nuts and bounce. The other 5% probably get lost on the laser part and don't try building one. Kind of a bummer. Based on comments he's made online, he definitely isn't going on just the code for his belief in the simulation.

Unrelated to his comments and just spitballing, I personally find the timing intriguing. We're getting close to AGI ourselves, tons of recent disclosure of UAP being real, etc. Especially with the whistleblowers and government officials suddenly referring to "aliens" as "non-human intelligence" instead. Doesn't make me less-inclined to believe something did pass The Great Filter and we're part of their computer something.

All I request/encourage is watching the videos before suggesting obvious explanations or asking rhetorical questions. He answers most of them in there and many of the provided details rule out common ones.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 2
    #28383671 - 07/03/23 01:04 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 2
    #28383685 - 07/03/23 01:12 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28383694 - 07/03/23 01:16 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

wingardium leviosa

But yeah, I hear you. It's something worth considering. Here's an interesting and long Twitter thread on DMT experiences and folklore. I don't think the claims he makes on missing persons are validated, though.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28383704 - 07/03/23 01:22 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 3
    #28383754 - 07/03/23 01:55 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

the guy is mixing it up.
we do not see straight lines, we see a flickering set of colors in the general area, that - when straight - can look like a straight line, but when stoned it is a bit chaotic since the flickering set of colored spots from a second or 2 beforehand are mixing with the flickering set from now, and the mind can construct that into text, alien text, cartoon characters or whatever.

My brother makes up stuff like that, and he's a retired orthodontist. smart people can really deceive themselves, and then it's easier to deceive others.

In the meantime, play safe with your laser and I am sure you will find good uses for it as time goes by.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines] * 2
    #28383760 - 07/03/23 02:02 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Let’s say for the sake of the interested that I don’t have any opinion at all. I haven’t watched the video, I have a general idea based on what you said, but otherwise I am neutral on the subject. Do you suppose if this device were put in front of me I would still get the same results?

Basically I feel like I’d be a pretty good candidate to go at this dry to see if it’s in the eye of the beholder or if it truly produces said results. I have seen code and glyphs on high doses of mushrooms, so if it is s something some people are predisposed to seeing with the aid of the device I would probably be a good Guinea pig.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28383777 - 07/03/23 02:15 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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Let’s say for the sake of the interested that I don’t have any opinion at all. I haven’t watched the video, I have a general idea based on what you said, but otherwise I am neutral on the subject. Do you suppose if this device were put in front of me I would still get the same results?

Basically I feel like I’d be a pretty good candidate to go at this dry to see if it’s in the eye of the beholder or if it truly produces said results. I have seen code and glyphs on high doses of mushrooms, so if it is s something some people are predisposed to seeing with the aid of the device I would probably be a good Guinea pig.




Yes, I do, although knowing nothing else it may take you longer. Not because you need to be a "believer" or be influenced, but there's kind of a "technique" to see it. I don't know how to explain it well, especially since I've only done this once, but it's kind of how there's a "technique" to seeing 3D eye puzzles. Knowing how to relax your eyes in similar fashion to that is apparently helpful for this. I can't do those at all, but my buddy said he can. He saw something noticeable immediately and I took a while. If you're down to try, I'll share more on that front.

All I'd say is if you're willing to try it and give it a serious attempt, I believe you'll see it, too. The person who discovered it says he's at 180 or so who've seen it and only 2 who haven't. Given that I can confirm 2 of the "saw it" camp are real, I'm inclined to believe his overall tally. I think he's still trying to troubleshoot why those 2 were the outliers.

He also says he's confirmed it with people who had no idea what to look for or how to see it. This is where my knowledge of it having a "technique" came from.

I'd love for you to try it without knowing more as a case study of sorts. If you're comfortable on low-doses of DMT* with open-eyes and are willing to spend some time playing with it, I'm confident you'll see it, too. If not, I'd love to have reliable attempts documented on failings.

The points redgreenvines brought up are the kinds of responses I referenced in my original post. But I'm glad you haven't watched because you have no idea why/how what he's saying are unlikely to be an explanation.

* It is reported you can see this on mush, too, but it's either a lot less noticeable or just harder to achieve. I've only tried with DMT, so I can't confirm myself.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28383811 - 07/03/23 02:38 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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The word hallucinate comes from the latin word lūx for light, as it is derived from the latin word alucinor; but Ālūcinor means something different than hallucinate.

a is a preposition in latin. It is the same as ab. They both mean by/from.

Notice with alucinor the beginning is a-luc which is to say from light. The nor means it is actually a deponent verb. Lūce means during the day in latin.

So, hallucinate originally means from light itself, but alucinor means to wander in mind, and it can also mean to dream, or also to talk idlely or ramble.

Alucinata is however a participle meaning 'hallucinatory' in the sentence 'lucifer lucidus lucet a luce alucinata'

It is an interesting construction thus to use all these words derived from light to make a pagan meaning shine through literally about the experience of hallucination, as phosphenes, the little lights in our eyes... the word is derived from the greek word for light, fos.

LVCIFER☆LVCIDVS☆LVCET☆A☆LVCE☆
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When latin is written like that, it means it is pagan. It is called square capital.

Hallucination sometimes regards an inner light, and it is interesting how these phosphenes form patterns on psychedelics, which is what has been referred to as 'code.'

Diogenes of Sinope would stare at the sun, and I have read things about this, but then again he didn't have electricity, and he enjoyed his own inner light show filled by that of the sun. No alien code involved.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28383832 - 07/03/23 02:55 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Interesting etymological breakdown. Thanks for that. I would've thought halos would be in there somewhere.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28383869 - 07/03/23 03:37 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

OK so the basic take away. This person has come up with an experiment to shows the code behind the simulation that we are living in. He claims that a certain wave length of lazer can revel this code but only if you are on DMT.

Why would the code be in the render of the simulation? Code executes on a device it is not in the render. That is like saying you are able to see the code in a CGI animation. His experiment should revel the underlying structure of the render medium. Source code does not run in a simulation as he is suggesting, it defines the the simulation according to the language it is being written in. 

Also he is contradicting himself. He suggest that we can not build instruments to see things we are not able to perceive, 10:35 first video, but also admits that we can build instruments that we are not able to perceive.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28383871 - 07/03/23 03:39 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Just for the sake of discussion, you’re assuming whatever this in theory is operates just like existing technology we have INSIDE the allowed parameters of the simulation. If it were all fake, why would you assume things outside the simulation work the same way?

Kind of erroneous thinking


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
    #28383874 - 07/03/23 03:47 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Are you suggesting that there is a technique of code creating executing in the object it describes? That would be a language called maths!


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Kiwi89] * 1
    #28383881 - 07/03/23 03:50 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

I’m saying if our perceived reality is a deception, then you can’t rely on its inherent rules to describe phenomena outside its scope. But this is really just experimental thinking, I’m not saying things are that way. I’m saying if our existence is a simulation, what lies beyond said simulation could be ANYTHING


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28383902 - 07/03/23 04:14 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

In Freud's interpretation of dreams he says that nonsense in dreams could be traced back to some real world experience. (I'm paraphrasing)

Most everyone has seen the matrix. Just sayin'

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I’m saying if our perceived reality is a deception, then you can’t rely on its inherent rules to describe phenomena outside its scope. But this is really just experimental thinking, I’m not saying things are that way. I’m saying if our existence is a simulation, what lies beyond said simulation could be ANYTHING




That's the same reasoning people use to defend the existence of god when inconstancies are pointed out.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: GenericHero]
    #28383919 - 07/03/23 04:31 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

I feel like it’s more akin to criticizing a Harry Potter game for having flying brooms. If we are living in a simulation we wouldn’t know what the “flying brooms” of our reality are or what reality outside the simulation is. Dream logic and physics are wildly different from the rules of the waking world. If this is a program, what exists outside the program could be literally anything.

Again not saying anything as fact, but to say that life outside this (if it were a simulation) would have to adhere to even a single law of our current experience is a really narrow way of thinking.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28383942 - 07/03/23 04:52 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Just for fun:
Can you expand on how dream physics are different from waking physics? Can you also think of a game in which the physics aren't based on our own?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: GenericHero]
    #28383988 - 07/03/23 05:22 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

I’ve had dreams where I’m falling sideways. Like the physics of falling, but horizontal. Floating. Things like that.

Most games aren’t, right? Like Sonic the Hedgehog or any Harry Potter. Brooms can’t actually fly.

Even these are only unrealistic manipulations of real physics. I’m suggesting it’s foolish to assume something outside of a purposefully crafted fake reality would be identical physically to the real, external reality should that be the case. Otherwise why make a fake one? Unless it’s like a Matrix situation and we are all enslaved somehow.

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28384011 - 07/03/23 05:33 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

That's cool, but I see that language without needing some special setup in many static viewing areas such as a white popcorn ceiling or wall, looking at my arm hairs, etc. etc.  I've seen everything from latin words to a druidic/glyphic type language on LSD many times.

Alex Grey and his wife has been very good at replicating the glyphic languages from LSD and DMT.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384025 - 07/03/23 05:42 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

What I meant with all that is really simple. The idea we have of hallucinating is premised upon a long history of meaning pertaining to the conception of 'light' itself. There is a tendency in people to associate light with consciousness, and this is very old. The Latin was to show how clear this was once in the very words people use. For instance, a word for 'clear' is lucidus, although obviously clarus is closer to our own. There is therefore a sort of historico-psychological precedent within the language we use to articulate ourselves to conceive these sorts of experiences in accordance with characterizations of light. Because the modern day is the technological era, this metaphor shows up in the clime of the current day; e.g. the Matrix.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28384026 - 07/03/23 05:42 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Quote:

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Just for the sake of discussion, you’re assuming whatever this in theory is operates just like existing technology we have INSIDE the allowed parameters of the simulation. If it were all fake, why would you assume things outside the simulation work the same way?

Kind of erroneous thinking





Why make the simulation less efficient than what we are able to do inside the simulation? Having each object consist of it's own code, no need for that, we already have more efficient ways of running simulations. Our creators are behind the times.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384041 - 07/03/23 05:53 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

A great English word to demonstrate the connection between consciousness and light, within our conceptions, is the word elucidate. There is another Latin word... Ēlūcus. It means a dreamer or drowsy person.
Besides obviously lucid.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28384049 - 07/03/23 06:03 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

@ Lux:

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@ smelly & kiwi:  Do you two not think simulation theory's kinda lame on its own?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28384056 - 07/03/23 06:10 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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I’ve had dreams where I’m falling sideways. Like the physics of falling, but horizontal. Floating. Things like that.



so, the same, just turned 90°?

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Most games aren’t, right? Like Sonic the Hedgehog or any Harry Potter. Brooms can’t actually fly.




the worlds in both games appear to be based on our own. you've seen stuff fly before. flying and broomsticks were both taken from our world. many things about our world would seem to be magical. all of the content in these games was not just invented out of nothing. it came from experienced "reality". you see this stuff in movies. the alien will be based off of an insect or a fish or something that has occurred before. You will be hard pressed to find anything that couldn't be traced back to some origin.

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Even these are only unrealistic manipulations of real physics. I’m suggesting it’s foolish to assume something outside of a purposefully crafted fake reality would be identical physically to the real, external reality should that be the case. Otherwise why make a fake one? Unless it’s like a Matrix situation and we are all enslaved somehow.




you are inflicting your experience on this actual real world. why would they have computers? or need to run simulations? if their world is so different from ours? their world is so different that we can't understand it and have nothing in common, but they run simulations? on computers?

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384077 - 07/03/23 06:38 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

:trippy:

But in all seriousness I'm not sure about the implications. I don't agree with a deterministic universe or consciousness. I don't think freedom is an adequate word. There is an undeterminedness of consciousness, and it is precisely in being itself that is subsists as such. Obviously there are set perameters but these do not force any outcome. Being is be-ing. It is not understood well as a noun. It is a verb, and this is part of why Latin fascinates me so much. Latin has certain structure and operation with regard to verbs whereas English, and other languages birthed from Latin, are nomecentric, or noun-centered, as the word noun is derived from the latin word for 'name,' which is nomen, whereas Latin is more centered around the uses of verbs and things in motion. The word emotion itself is probably the most important English word, in my opinion, and it exists because the latin meaning is contained, although the concept 'emotion' is attacked regularly and there are philosophical interests which like to pick it apart and make it into the noun, in accordance with a nomecentric (if you will) linguistic structure. The implications of this for thought are extraordinary but quickly become quite dense.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384081 - 07/03/23 06:45 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Do you see what I was trying to get at there? I cannot help but see a stagnance in English with regard to nouns, and this is why I think English is itself a Platonically derived language. Yes, I think philosophy itself has birthed different types of languages that can do different things, but more importantly CANNOT do certain things that other languages can do. I'm not sure why this is the case exactly but I can see it quite clearly. I think this is at the root of many philosophical problems and conundrums, which Nietzsche called snares of language.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384085 - 07/03/23 06:50 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

This linguistic stagnance is, I think, the reason for the conundrum about determinism versus freedom to begin with. I think it is precisely this 'stagnance' of thought, within the structure of language, that provides the (illusory) backdrop of a determined world and precludes any well rounded conclusion to that very old debate.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384094 - 07/03/23 07:02 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

What I'm saying, basically, is in modern languages there are conundrums built into them, into the structure with which they operate. The illusion is if you think enough about it with those same words then you will be able to solve those challenges. On the contrary... They are not meant to be solved and there is no conclusion, because the language is inadequate... the reason why is... There are a few reasons I can think of... And none of them are happy.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28384107 - 07/03/23 07:25 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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I’m saying if our perceived reality is a deception, then you can’t rely on its inherent rules to describe phenomena outside its scope. But this is really just experimental thinking, I’m not saying things are that way. I’m saying if our existence is a simulation, what lies beyond said simulation could be ANYTHING




Agreed. It's akin to when people anthropomorphize God. The very definition of God defies our ability to understand. If there's a civilization advanced enough to run a simulation like this, I don't propose we're smart enough to understand their motives. When everything we know is contained within a simulation, we're limited to what's within it. The same people pointing out flaws in logic can't explain the technology they're typing on to share that opinion.

If people are starting from a finish line of "this is not possible", they'll naturally work backwards on why any explanation given must be something else. That's why I'm not going to spend much time explaining why obvious answers don't fit. It's essentially a non-falsifiable thing that you must see for yourself to believe. Fortunately, with a cheap laser and some DMT, you can.

I've seen the code, so personally, I don't give a fuck what a simulation should be doing or what the implications are from it existing. At least not yet. We must first get on the same page of whether the code is there. For that reason, I'm focused on getting some of you knuckleheads to play with the laser like I did. There's no reason you should see the same thing that I see, even when replicating the conditions.

For what it's worth, I am of the opinion that it's more like an Easter egg as opposed to raw source code. Something to serve as a constant from the "psychedelic/altered consciousness" side of things. Basically a little nod that lets us know someone is in charge. Or at least higher up than us on the food chain. And that's my stance if the "out there" side of things is correct. It could be just the right blend of external parameters to trigger this neat effect in human brains. Unlikely to me, but possible. But as I said, code confirmation first, speculation later (for me personally).


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That's cool, but I see that language without needing some special setup in many static viewing areas such as a white popcorn ceiling or wall, looking at my arm hairs, etc. etc.  I've seen everything from latin words to a druidic/glyphic type language on LSD many times.

Alex Grey and his wife has been very good at replicating the glyphic languages from LSD and DMT.




It's not Allyson's language and they're not like traditional glyphs from what I've seen. Either way, I don't think you're understanding the distinction between what you're describing and the laser. Mainly "many times" is not "every time."


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    #28384130 - 07/03/23 07:37 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

the 'simulation' we're in is one that is entirely generated BY representational language itself....

What's a world look like where we're actually experiencing reality directly instead of through the lens of a word-representation- to FEEL fully instead of thinking about the feeling?

At least all of my really-deep-out there experiences have been EXPERIENCES i've been experiencing, you know? with a distinct lack of a linguistic overlay.

Representational Language only gives the appearance of communication- we can never be certain the other person truly understood what we are trying to express. It's my thought that this was why it was introduced here- Best way to conquer is to separate and divide. Gotta figure out how to break the apex-species out of it felt-mental-commmunion with the rest of the planet if you want to start mining it.


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    #28384133 - 07/03/23 07:40 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Kinda hijacking the thread and getting off topic...

But yes I follow what you're trying to get at.

From my pov atm the whole 'conundrum about determinism versus freedom' - it isn't really even truly a conundrum to begin with - it can just seem like it is sometimes.  I tend to see the issue having more so to do with the present limitations of the human brain.

Not to say there aren't ways of honing mind to develop both proficiency with language & discernment in general to expand our understanding of the nature of things.

Words, concepts, ideas - in any language - depending on how we understand things - can have an efx like dreaming up an illusory conceptual cage of sorts which can influence how we then perceive the world in and around us etc etc. 

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384140 - 07/03/23 07:48 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Do the letters/characters change while staring at them?  If you look away, and then back to the same place/line in the code/string, are the same letters in the same place? 
If it all remains same individual letters/code in same location, do two people see the same individual letters/code in this same area?  Has that been checked and confirmed by those viewing?


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    #28384149 - 07/03/23 07:53 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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Also he is contradicting himself. He suggest that we can not build instruments to see things we are not able to perceive, 10:35 first video, but also admits that we can build instruments that we are not able to perceive.




There is no contradiction. I think you're misinterpreting him. We are unable to see UV with our own eyes, but we do have instruments able to detect and confirm it. Without those instruments, we'd never be able to "see" (and prove) the existence of that part of the spectrum.

He's positing that the altered state rendered from DMT might be akin to UV's previously unrecognized space on the spectrum. If so, DMT might be the tool needed to turn our brains into that instrumentation. If we don't even consider this, he's saying there might be an entire world of information we're missing out on.

Think before germ theory evolved into our current understanding. People thought "bad air" caused disease and doctor's didn't even bother washing their hands. In this scenario, he's saying, "Maybe there's an entire world existing alongside us playing a role. We just can't see it." DMT is the microscope and he's urging us to look through it with that specific lens.

It's honestly more analogous to germ theory than I like.

xShroomerx,

This isn't applicable, but falls into the category of "already considered, but not entirely relevant." Not trying to be rude or dismissive, but as I said above, people will have to see it for themselves to "get it." I also want to be vague for the people who are down to try. As little influence as possible is probably best for building a case.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384156 - 07/03/23 08:01 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

I believe it for sure, without having ever seen this or done DMT (yet) :frown:
I was asking from a curiosity standpoint, thinking maybe the answer to my question could prove something or provide some kind if insight if the answer is one way or the other. 
Why would you consider that question or it's answer not relevant, doesn't what I meant make any sense from a scientific standpoint in regards to what any of it all means?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: xShroomerx] * 1
    #28384164 - 07/03/23 08:15 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

If the code is there, it's a pretty big thing. As such, my main goal with this post is to immediately get people to try the experiment. The main gripe everyone says about his videos is that the power of influence invalidated the results. This is the main reason I am hesitant to give specifics on the code itself. I know it's kind of annoying and a copout, but answering your question will provide insight. It'll shape people's idea of what should be there as a result. I don't want to do that. I am sorry if it comes off as withholding on purpose.

The "already considered" part was trying to assure people it doesn't have an obvious explanation not yet considered. Like someone saying they've seen it randomly on specific textures. It's not that. Basically it's a "source: trust me, bro" from someone who actually is trustworthy and with a reason for doing that.

Another way of looking at it is me assuring everyone that I'm not a fucking idiot. I wouldn't have gotten to the point of making this thread without having ruled out very obvious things. The likelihood of me just now realizing, "Oh, fuck! It actually was everyone just looking at a weird surface and only happening sometimes at random!" is not good. It's more likely I would've died bathing with a toaster beforehand or blinding myself with the laser.

Anyway, it'd be rad if everyone commenting (who were capable) would say, "Fuck it. Let's all try it next Friday at midnight" and we could all discuss the results immediately. That's my hope. So anybody else on the sidelines, I'd love to get a couple on board.


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    #28384170 - 07/03/23 08:21 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

only skimmed this thread so far but i love weird bullshit. will fully be trying the lasers at some point for whatever they do.

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edit: a little off topic, but this kind of discussion reminds me of a book called “the cosmic serpent.” an anthropologist studying alongside some south american indigenous cultures got a chance to partake in an ayahuasca ceremony & it lead him down a rabbit hole to suggesting that altered states will give the consciousness the ability to extract information from otherwise imperceivable places/dimensions. not woo-woo or anything either, dude has a phD & did his homework with all the receipts. i’d highly recommend if you like this kind of stuff.


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    #28384179 - 07/03/23 08:28 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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only skimmed this thread so far but i love weird bullshit. will fully be trying the lasers at some point for whatever they do.

:camping:




Hell yeah, man. I love to hear that. The laser must be 650nm, 5mW max, with a diffracted beam. The cross-shaped beam is the best and the wider, the better (that's what she said). #SYD1230 is the diode to buy since it has all of the requirements. Wiring it to your power source is all that's needed and it's not difficult.

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    #28384183 - 07/03/23 08:32 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

i will probably need the links :lol:

sounds easy enough tho. i’ll watch the video & stuff a bit later when i get some free time


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    #28384188 - 07/03/23 08:39 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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i will probably need the links :lol:

sounds easy enough tho. i’ll watch the video & stuff a bit later when i get some free time




That book sounds awesome. I've definitely heard that title. I'll have to check it later. I also think some of Gallimore's ideas sound interesting regarding this.

I'll update the thread tomorrow or so with specifics on the build. Also, feel free to not watch any of the videos and go in blind on the test. :wink: No worries either way. If I tell you the laser reveals a secret message about Ovaltine, it shouldn't matter. You shouldn't see a crummy commercial just because someone suggests it.

Holler.

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28384191 - 07/03/23 08:42 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

I don't mean to derail: any simulation would by definition be deterministic, no? How could something be undetermined from a determined set of parameters, unless it is simply undefined? And if it is undefined then how could there be any knowledge of it? namely, of consciousness? If I'm not mistaken some phenomenologist remarked upon it as 'indeterminate being.' How could there be any breathing being within a determined system? Every breath would have been already calculated, and so consciousness itself would be an illusion. And the implication would be that we are robots with an illusion of experience. If we are in any simulation then it is programmed. You cannot program indeterminacy. That is an oxymoron.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28384198 - 07/03/23 08:51 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

It depends on what you mean by simulation. I don't think we'd have to be robots. AGI is projected to be a real thing, achievable possibly within our lifetimes. Perhaps we are AGI ourselves and now we're getting close to building our own simulation of sorts? No idea. Like I said, code first, theorize on implications later (for me).

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    #28384206 - 07/03/23 09:07 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

AGI is the biggest lie since Jesus.

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    #28384210 - 07/03/23 09:11 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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If the code is there, it's a pretty big thing. As such, my main goal with this post is to immediately get people to try the experiment. The main gripe everyone says about his videos is that the power of influence invalidated the results. This is the main reason I am hesitant to give specifics on the code itself. I know it's kind of annoying and a copout, but answering your question will provide insight. It'll shape people's idea of what should be there as a result. I don't want to do that. I am sorry if it comes off as withholding on purpose.

The "already considered" part was trying to assure people it doesn't have an obvious explanation not yet considered. Like someone saying they've seen it randomly on specific textures. It's not that. Basically it's a "source: trust me, bro" from someone who actually is trustworthy and with a reason for doing that.

Another way of looking at it is me assuring everyone that I'm not a fucking idiot. I wouldn't have gotten to the point of making this thread without having ruled out very obvious things. The likelihood of me just now realizing, "Oh, fuck! It actually was everyone just looking at a weird surface and only happening sometimes at random!" is not good. It's more likely I would've died bathing with a toaster beforehand or blinding myself with the laser.

Anyway, it'd be rad if everyone commenting (who were capable) would say, "Fuck it. Let's all try it next Friday at midnight" and we could all discuss the results immediately. That's my hope. So anybody else on the sidelines, I'd love to get a couple on board.




I certainly understand what you mean.  Hopefully more info will be revealed once this is figured out! 
I'd love to know what all has been found so far, but I know what you mean about skewing the results/experiences, I agree it's best to keep what you mention at a minimum so there's no outside influences on people when they check it out.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384211 - 07/03/23 09:13 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Same old frankenstein monster nonsense. We will never be gods that create an intelligent species. We are not ens causa sui. All that is logically absurd. 

Your newspeak definition of philosophy doesn't change the fact that science, rhetoric, and rationality are all birthed from it. The complete  fallacy of 'code first, implicate later' is the epitome of all that is wrong with this generation.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384271 - 07/03/23 11:23 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

If you have a skeptic arguing for pragmatism in any matter... Something has gone seriously wrong.

That is, when the skeptic no longer believes in the effectiveness of it because they see others deluded by fantasies and lies. Even skepticism is out of the window, because knowledge becomes based upon nothing, a falsis principiis proficisci, to set out from false beginnings. Freud said it perfectly in one of his books about theories... "like an iron statue with clay feet" .... flashback to Nebuchadnezzar


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384292 - 07/03/23 11:55 PM (6 months, 22 days ago)

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I am a disciple of the philosopher Dionysus and I would prefer to be a satyr rather than a saint. But just read this book! Maybe I have here succeeded in expressing this contrast in a cheerful and at the same time sympathetic manner— perhaps this is the only purpose of the present work. The very last thing I should promise to accomplish would be to "improve” mankind. I do not set up any new idols; may the old idols learn what it is to have legs of clay. To overthrow idols (idols is the name I give to all ideals) – that is much more like my business. In the same proportion as an ideal world has been falsely assumed, reality has been robbed of its value, its meaning and its truthfulness. The "real world” and the "apparent world”—in plain English the fabricated world and reality. To date, the lie of the ideal has been the curse of reality; by means of it the very source of mankind’s instincts has become mendacious and false; so much so that those values that have come to be worshipped are the exact opposite of the ones which would ensure man’s prosperity, his future and his exalted right to a future.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384307 - 07/04/23 12:08 AM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Oh whatever here is the citation
Moses and Monotheism, Sigmund Freud, pg. 30

"At the end of my essay I said that important and far-reaching conclusions could be drawn from the suggestion that Moses was an Egyptian; but I was not prepared to uphold them publicly, since they were based only on psychological probabilities and lacked objective proof. The more significant the possibilities thus discerned the more cautious is one about exposing them to the critical attack of the outside world without any secure foundation like an iron monument with feet of clay. No probability, however seductive, can protect us from error; even if all parts of a problem seem to fit together like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, one has to remember that the probable need not necessarily be the truth and the truth not always probable. And, lastly, it is not attractive to be classed with the scholastics and talmudists who are satisfied to exercise their ingenuity unconcerned how far removed their conclusions may
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 3
    #28384312 - 07/04/23 12:18 AM (6 months, 22 days ago)

Woah, I did not plan on spending an hour and a half watching two videos and reading 5000+ words in posts with most of that time still spent watching the videos in which he talks a lot but is saying essentially nothing.. It feels exactly like a conspiracy thread:lol:

But that aside. Why MUST it be a simulation? I feel a lot of people misinterpret the matrix(the movie) as more futuristic than it is, same with any dystopian future story. It can only be written with the inspiration coming from the problems currently at hand. The "matrix" is not a computer simulation at all, it is a linguistic simulation, where words and language are used to control people's behavior, to convince them that money is more important than most anything else, and to even control how they think of value, which must be paper money and not physical natural resources, so entire countries can be hoodwinked out of their true wealth(like those in Africa and South America). We are literally enslaved by this matrix, with police taking away your freedom if you don't want to play by the completely unfair rules of the simulation. Yet if you can see past it, into it's source code, you can control the inhabitants of the matrix the same way it's creators do every day. This is what the movie is about, aliens and computers have fuck all to do with it, its PEOPLE trying to enslave PEOPLE with money and debt and prisons, that is what the matrix is about.

Also, this is not scientific in the least. I get that he wants to avoid confirmation bias or whatever, but in doing so he assumes we know psychology better than we know physics, and considering psychology as a science is roughly less than a tenth of the age of physics, I think this laser contraption of his would be better used studying the psychology of shared phenomena than "IT'S DEFS 100% A FUCKIN MATRIX Y'ALL". The fact that he doesn't want to say anything specific about the language or what is seen also makes it sound(to those who are uninitiated) like it could look like source code, but it could also look like a dolphin, like it's all 100% interpretative and no defined structure can be elucidated whatsoever as of yet with all his 180+ guinea pigs. I know this might not be the case and I might change my tune once I see the laser on DMT, but this is what it would sound like to scientists. I mean if he believed it was truly empirically observable, it should be IMPOSSIBLE to imagine it with or without psychological priming, you know it's a bit fishy that he would even think that it is having experienced it himself.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384365 - 07/04/23 03:19 AM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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That book sounds awesome. I've definitely heard that title. I'll have to check it later. I also think some of Gallimore's ideas sound interesting regarding this.

I'll update the thread tomorrow or so with specifics on the build. Also, feel free to not watch any of the videos and go in blind on the test. :wink: No worries either way. If I tell you the laser reveals a secret message about Ovaltine, it shouldn't matter. You shouldn't see a crummy commercial just because someone suggests it.

Holler.

Edit: Googled overview of the book and it aligns with some of my thoughts on my DMT experiences. I also will say that certain things in the description align with certain things tied to the experiment. Damn.




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"Maybe there's an entire world existing alongside us playing a role. We just can't see it." DMT is the microscope and he's urging us to look through it with that specific lens.




oh yeah i think you'll love that book :lol: really really cool stuff, incredibly thought out & really well written, he's got great writing voice so it's a pretty quick read. i'd recommend getting a physical copy if you can, there are a ton of footnotes & sources that he goes into a lot of detail on in the appendix, & it would probably be easier to flip back & forth in a physical copy. the notes add a ton of depth to the book

hahaha hell yeah dude, i think i'll actually just go in blind as i can. might as well, right? even if all i get is an ad i'm sure it'll at least be interesting :lol: really nothing to lose by trying it out!


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28384379 - 07/04/23 03:46 AM (6 months, 21 days ago)

I am watching this thread since first post but I have no time to watch videos until today, and today videos are restricted.
If someone downloaded them could you please upload somewhere else?
Anyway I watched the available videos in the channed including laser construction of 650 mm 5 MW laser in the tecnique he says do not look directly to the beam but you can look to the reflection but I am not sure about this.
Looking to the reflection of laser can also burn your retina and macula (1).
I do also make a kind of device reminds me. I make some little holes with sharp little needle in aluminium foil. I watch either reflections of light trough this or flashing lights and make that unfocus and focus eye movement mentioned in the videos. I generally see noticiable letters and shapes by this way at the peak of 10 Gr mush. This may be safer than lasers.

Edit:I can access videos through VPN now, I think it is because of country restriction.

1. https://laserpointerforums.com/threads/hit-my-eyes-with-a-5mw-650nm-red-laser.100033/


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: ShiroiTora] * 1
    #28384599 - 07/04/23 09:33 AM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Staring at an object that has a 5mW laser pointed on it is not going to damage your eyes. At least it's not rated to from what I Googled beforehand. The main risk would be the laser being higher than 5mW despite the rating saying so. But everyone needs to calculate their own risk if they want to do this or not.

Shining the laser on something highly reflective like a mirror should not be done. To anyone confused, the object you want to shine the laser at should not be a mirror or a human eyeball or something mirror-like that beams the laser back into your eyeball like a mirror. Something like a wooden door or regular wall would be advisable.

If your eyes are being strained or your head begins to hurt, don't continue. But make sure 5mW is the max output on the laser.

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Woah, I did not plan on spending an hour and a half watching two videos and reading 5000+ words in posts with most of that time still spent watching the videos in which he talks a lot but is saying essentially nothing.. It feels exactly like a conspiracy thread:lol:

But that aside. Why MUST it be a simulation? I feel a lot of people misinterpret the matrix(the movie) as more futuristic than it is, same with any dystopian future story. It can only be written with the inspiration coming from the problems currently at hand. The "matrix" is not a computer simulation at all, it is a linguistic simulation, where words and language are used to control people's behavior, to convince them that money is more important than most anything else, and to even control how they think of value, which must be paper money and not physical natural resources, so entire countries can be hoodwinked out of their true wealth(like those in Africa and South America). We are literally enslaved by this matrix, with police taking away your freedom if you don't want to play by the completely unfair rules of the simulation. Yet if you can see past it, into it's source code, you can control the inhabitants of the matrix the same way it's creators do every day. This is what the movie is about, aliens and computers have fuck all to do with it, its PEOPLE trying to enslave PEOPLE with money and debt and prisons, that is what the matrix is about.

Also, this is not scientific in the least. I get that he wants to avoid confirmation bias or whatever, but in doing so he assumes we know psychology better than we know physics, and considering psychology as a science is roughly less than a tenth of the age of physics, I think this laser contraption of his would be better used studying the psychology of shared phenomena than "IT'S DEFS 100% A FUCKIN MATRIX Y'ALL". The fact that he doesn't want to say anything specific about the language or what is seen also makes it sound(to those who are uninitiated) like it could look like source code, but it could also look like a dolphin, like it's all 100% interpretative and no defined structure can be elucidated whatsoever as of yet with all his 180+ guinea pigs. I know this might not be the case and I might change my tune once I see the laser on DMT, but this is what it would sound like to scientists. I mean if he believed it was truly empirically observable, it should be IMPOSSIBLE to imagine it with or without psychological priming, you know it's a bit fishy that he would even think that it is having experienced it himself.




A good example of why I had the disclaimers in the OP.

1. I addressed whether it has to be literal source code or not in another comment.
2. The Matrix has nothing to do with anything he's saying.
3. He is putting together double-blind tests with scientists. This is to get others on board.
4. Your summarization in the second paragraph is indeed not accurate.

5. "I mean if he believed it was truly empirically observable, it should be IMPOSSIBLE to imagine it with or without psychological priming, you know it's a bit fishy that he would even think that it is having experienced it himself."

Exactly. And it is. He has said this multiple times online and I swear he addresses it in the videos you watched. I also have said this to people. It honestly shouldn't and doesn't matter. It absolutely looks the same to everyone who sees it. They describe the same thing. If I tell you it's a bunch of 8===D symbols, you aren't going to see dicks. But the general public seems to think that's how this whole thing works. He's trying to avoid that with the assumption people will try the experiment.

Here are a few of his comments online addressing this:

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When I did it with people without telling them, many times they get confused. But if you try it for yourself and see it, you will know exactly what I mean by its Epistemologically Sound. It doesn't belong to a family of things that can be suggested to you. It's extremely stable and coherent. And that's a very important attribute of it. Because it becomes clear that thinking of it in terms of something that has been suggested to you, is equivalent to thinking about your couch in terms of only existing because I told you there's a couch there. It's not "that kind of thing".




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Again, it’s in the video. You can’t suggest something to happen this specifically with such robust attributes and have it appear 100% of the time for everybody without any variation




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I’m addressing this in the video. You can’t suggest something this specific to also appear 100% of the time unless that something actually exists on its own side.




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Yes, this is a very common objection, which I understand, but every time I answer it I realize more and more how misplaced it is. I will use my answer to you to speak to the world at large, so please don't feel like I'm being dismissive of your questions or your sentiment. I take all of your points and I understand the issues you're raising. But I have answered these questions so many times that I prefer to give a deeper answer here, which will include some strident points. This attitude is not aimed at you as an individual. I am talking to what I notice to be a general narrative that I believe is holding us back.

First, to your point about mushrooms. This is actually a perfect example of a deep misconception people have about psychedelics specifically and of the power of suggestion in general. I'm not sure how much experience you have with mushrooms, but the scenario that you've described is highly unlikely. Yes, things become more malleable when you're on mushrooms, but they are not infinitely elastic. So no, you will not get more visuals if you believe that if you stand on one foot it will make it so. And in fact, it is much more often the case that you will get things you did not expect at all; which is one of the very good reasons people are afraid of bad trips. But this misconception is actually of a much more general nature.

The way we treat the placebo effect, points to a deeply confused notion of reality. When people say, “it’s just placebo”. What do they mean by “just”, exactly? Are they talking about the fact that symptoms - sometimes very real physical symptoms - go away, because someone was convinced they were given something we thought is supposed to cure it, when in fact we gave them a sugar pill? And this happens 30% of the time? And you don't think this merits everyone to pause and ask what exactly is the relationship between the mind and our physical body? Here is another fun fact. The more radical the means of inducing a placebo the higher the percentage of people for whom the placebo works. Sometimes as high as 53%. So what does this mean? Well, one very plausible thing it can mean is that conviction (whatever in fact it is) seems to be playing a major role in what happens to us physically. And you don't think this is important to the discussion of what is the main driver, the mind or the physical world?

Then there is the it’s-something-that-our-brain-is-doing types of explanations; which are not really explanations at all. They are an attempt to indefinitely postpone the explanation, by never addressing the actual question and sweeping it under a physicalist rug. It is the equivalent of saying that it was magic. And no, I am not exaggerating. Saying “it’s something we don’t understand about the mind” has exactly the same explanatory power as saying it’s magic.

The code resembles ____, which also addresses your point about people who speak different languages. I speak three, and none of them are ____. Everyone sees the exact same thing. What I always tell people when I'm answering this question is that what you see in the laser has enough variability and stability to be able to run a blind test even if I say to you you see ____. As to your point about it being unlikely that someone who would be able to simulate realities would be using ____ or ____ that we can understand. Yes, you are absolutely correct. And yet, here we are. So maybe we don't really know what is plausible in this space. One possible explanation is that we're supposed to find this and solve some puzzles using it to get a pass to join the larger space. But I will be the first to admit that this is a very wild guess. One thing I am not guessing though is the fact that it's there.

The bottom line is this. My first video on the subject is missing a lot of key points to make this more salient for people. This is why I'm releasing a new follow-up video next month that addresses a lot of these points in much more depth. But the point of this video wasn't to convince anyone. It was to make this information available to anyone that would like to try and replicate it.

I hope this answer satisfied your concerns, and please forgive my tone if I came across as too stern. As I said, I felt like I was answering the world, more than you personally, so I felt justified to adopt a stronger tone. If you have any more specific questions please don't hesitate to ask.

Thank you for your questions.




You can decide for yourself how deluded Laserboy is. To me, he sounds pretty sane. But maybe that's just because he's addressing redditors.

I've edited out stuff about the code specifically. If you want to search, you can find out. I politely request that anybody who digs to find more about the code doesn't mention it in the open here. Yes, I'm aware it doesn't matter and I'm aware this doesn't make for a real science experiment. But just for funsies, please don't discuss the specifics of the "code" out in the open since there are a few avoiding it for their own experiment.

Again, I promise the extremely obvious explanations for seeing this have already been addressed and factored in. I'm equally grounded in both reality and humility, which is pretty good for a man like me with a 180 IQ and 14" penis. Okay, okay. Listen, I am not a genius, nor a narcissist, but I am at least not a complete moron. If there's a different explanation for this, which I am open to, it's not he obvious ones.

Regardless, less tallky, more lasery. Let me know if you want to build the laser. I'm going to post how I built mine tonight or tomorrow, I think.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: SevR]
    #28384720 - 07/04/23 11:13 AM (6 months, 21 days ago)

agree and and also this

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the 'simulation' we're in is one that is entirely generated BY representational language itself....

What's a world look like where we're actually experiencing reality directly instead of through the lens of a word-representation- to FEEL fully instead of thinking about the feeling?

At least all of my really-deep-out there experiences have been EXPERIENCES i've been experiencing, you know? with a distinct lack of a linguistic overlay.

Representational Language only gives the appearance of communication- we can never be certain the other person truly understood what we are trying to express. It's my thought that this was why it was introduced here- Best way to conquer is to separate and divide. Gotta figure out how to break the apex-species out of it felt-mental-commmunion with the rest of the planet if you want to start mining it.




good points, I resented spending time with the Fuckit talking head video.

Simulation theory thrives on the fact that there is hardly any way at all to even imagine how the people or things that made the simulation exist or where and why.

Presumably someone might hijack the simulation (like in Matrix) and fix the political crisis.

meaning that this, like all conspiracies and religions is fundamentally a political gambit - "can we get a few more believers?"

If you can get some believers then it hardly matters if you don't exactly believe it yourself, you have a 'family', and beliefs are extra.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28384746 - 07/04/23 11:38 AM (6 months, 21 days ago)

You don't have to give a fuck about simulation theory. If you spent more time reading the thread and less time posting irrelevant shit in it, you might understand that. I agree on the non-falsifiability of simulation theory. That's why so few of my posts are discussing it.

The focal point to discuss is the "code." How can there be a "code" that is coherently revealed through this laser + altered state? Your brother being an orthodontist who makes shit up is one explanation. It isn't what I'd call a good one, but at least you're in the right arena of discussion by trying to disprove what the laser reveals.

What "believers" are you talking about? He is literally telling you how to perform this yourself and see. No belief required. And seeing the code doesn't mean you have to believe we're in a simulation. If you believe the "real Matrix" is the crippling debt, class division, and wealth-inequality we've accrued along the way, I'm with you. But please drone on and on about it elsewhere. You can take the latin guy with you.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384777 - 07/04/23 12:07 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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Again, I promise the extremely obvious explanations for seeing this have already been addressed and factored in. I'm equally grounded in both reality and humility, which is pretty good for a man like me with a 180 IQ and 14" penis. Okay, okay. Listen, I am not a genius, nor a narcissist, but I am at least not a complete moron. If there's a different explanation for this, which I am open to, it's not he obvious ones.

Regardless, less tallky, more lasery. Let me know if you want to build the laser. I'm going to post how I built mine tonight or tomorrow, I think.




You are funny Mr Sloth:lol:

Fine I'll try it out the laser, for funsies.. Does oral DMT work with it?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384787 - 07/04/23 12:15 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

I sincerely doubt you have ever even done DMT.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28384795 - 07/04/23 12:22 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Why spread such psychotic disinformation?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux] * 1
    #28384821 - 07/04/23 12:52 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

amazingly, obvious bullshit is not obvious to everyone.
it's even amazing without DMT,
astonishing even.

the frame stacking effect will produce everything that appears in this hallucination with or without a laser.

when you are quite stoned, visual frames will not completely fade in 3/10 second as per usual, they will bunch up and overlap interacting with afterimages (which are like negatives) and this produces edges that look like lines (often quite neon like lines).

meantime your head is always moving a bit, and your eyes saccade as well, therefore when quite stoned you will definitely have patterns forming and due to the grid like arrangement of cerebral visual processing areas, the resulting stoned image will appear to be either hieroglyphic-al or alien textual in a grid form which is what lines of text are. I often get cartoons. or even unrecognizable Latin text.

You can easily fall into your own animation of sustained buffered vision because of this - it is not the matrix - the matrix is a fantasy, the laser will only add energy to it.

nothing more.

of course you could try it with a tin foil hat, and even better build a pyramid and do it inside the pyramid. this kind of thing is endless.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: ShiroiTora]
    #28384830 - 07/04/23 12:58 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Like pharmahuasca? I have no experience with that myself, only vaped DMT (that I'm apparently lying about), but I don't see why not. n,n-DMT is the ticket and mushrooms apparently work, too. I'd assume oral DMT would work as well if the dosage/effects are similar to what is needed when vaped.


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I liked you better when you were babbling about Lucifer in Latin. Sorry, no idea what disinformation I'm spreading. I did DMT while looking at a laser on a wall and saw "code." This isn't disinformation. It's a real thing. What it means, I have no idea and am not too interested in discussing at the moment.

I'm not theorizing random conspiracies or telling people to believe anything I'm saying. There is a specific and easy thing to do that will either validate or disprove the existence of this code. And I'm doing what I can for people to help with that. Why that isn't encouraged and appreciated by you is odd to me, but whatever. Even if people see the code, it doesn't have to mean one thing or another. And people are still free to try to demonstrate how it actually is just a visual effect. I am open to that, although current explanations do not fit.

If you're not interested in performing the experiment, that's totally fine. I would appreciate if you don't completely derail the thread, though. It's already busy enough with redgreenvine displaying the Dunning-Kruger effect in 1080P.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 2
    #28384843 - 07/04/23 01:11 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

I've seen 'it' - or similar enough - too, but what I don't see is how it necessarily means what you're saying you think it does.  In fact, your guess seems based more in several giant leaps of faith than it does well placed observations backed by empirical evidence.
Considering that there are perfectly good explanations that exist now for how the resulting phenomena can occur I can't help but be highly skeptical of your take.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #28384892 - 07/04/23 02:00 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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I've seen 'it' - or similar enough - too, but what I don't see is how it necessarily means what you're saying you think it does.




Sorry, what exactly do I think this code means? Where is this guess of mine or the leaps of faith you think you're referencing?

Here are a few actual quotes from me (basically all true):

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I don't think just seeing the code means we're 100% in a simulation




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Maybe there's no simulation




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I don't give a fuck what a simulation should be doing or what the implications are from it existing.




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You don't have to give a fuck about simulation theory.




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I agree on the non-falsifiability of simulation theory. That's why so few of my posts are discussing it.




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pretty good for a man like me with a 180 IQ and 14" penis




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seeing the code doesn't mean you have to believe we're in a simulation.




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Even if people see the code, it doesn't have to mean one thing or another. And people are still free to try to demonstrate how it actually is just a visual effect. I am open to that, although current explanations do not fit.




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What it means, I have no idea and am not too interested in discussing at the moment.




I have taken considerable steps to avoid this part of the conversation entirely. In each instance I've referenced the code, I've made it clear that I don't exactly know what it means or how it fits in with a simulation. If it is indeed put here on purpose by something, I don't think it has to be literal source code running a simulation. But again, this is not something I have spent or want to spend much time on. I am interested in establishing that it's there.


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In fact, your guess seems based more in several giant leaps of faith than it does well placed observations backed by empirical evidence.




Damn, that's actually a great point. Well, not the "giant leaps of faith" part, but the emphasis placed on "well placed observations backed by empirical evidence." I have to admit that part is extremely important for this whole thing. In fact, it's absolutely the most necessary component.

Maybe I'll have to rethink how to best achieve it. Maybe something along the lines of telling other people exactly how I saw the code, then asking people to replicate it themselves and report back with their results. Now where to find solid candidates? Hmm, what about a forum where experienced psychonauts discuss their drug experiences? Let me think on this.

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Considering that there are perfectly good explanations that exist now for how the resulting phenomena can occur I can't help but be highly skeptical of your take.




[ ] perfectly good explanations that exist now for how the resulting phenomena can occur
[ ] need for someone to be highly skeptical of anyone's take

1. Laser
2. DMT

1 + 2 = the answer for yourself.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28384950 - 07/04/23 02:36 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

You should read Timothy Leary's book Flash Backs. In it he describes how when under the influence of LSD you are able to see the physics describing the universe. When discussing the phenomenon with others that had taken LSD before they also believed they had witnessed the universe as if looking through microscope.

These types of hallucinations are not a discovery of a simulation but rather a feature of the drugs you are taking.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28385040 - 07/04/23 03:25 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

1. You are not providing evidence to the contrary of anything discussed, including your own example. Arbitrarily assigning "drugs" to everything experienced in an altered state invalidates nothing. Saying "it's drugs" is not explaining anything. It's a pointless distinction that only serves to end the discussion, not explain anything.

2. You, like the others making similar posts, are describing something that isn't at all what I am talking about. Comparing experiences that aren't analogous also doesn't invalidate anything. I've done LSD 10-15 times and have never so much as seen a fractal bouncing off shit, let alone the physics of the universe (and I get excellent acid). I've done a single tab with a friend who could see them bouncing off of trees. The experience is quite subjective, obviously, and we all have different tolerance to things. That is the distinction between the examples people keep providing and what is suggested in the video. It isn't subjective. Everyone sees and describes the same thing. And if his numbers are to be believed, there's like a 99% repeatability rate among those he's shown it to. Nobody in here is describing that.

I have never had the same experience "on drugs" with that kind of repeatability and consistency. Neither have you. Even with experiences that are caused by our brain/body structure that I KNOW happen. I've seen honeycomb-type patterns overlaid on everything when I blink, but not every single time I trip. I've heard many others describe this, too, but not every single time they trip. And even knowing this effect exists and has a simple explanation, I can't "induce" it into your trip with any repeatability.

If I told you wearing a red hat on 2g of cubes would induce form constants, you should be skeptical. If you try it and it works, you should give it more consideration, but still be skeptical. If you get more people to try it, find out it works for them, you should be less skeptical. I would then try to disprove it with blue hats or something. And even then, if I can't, it doesn't have to mean anything. We can sit on it and think for as long as we want.

How can we get to that part if everyone keeps saying, "I saw that effect while tripping once before, back in aught-6. Therefore, it's bullshit!" as if it's the same thing?

"Yeah, dude. I've seen it once or twice, as well. And I don't even wear hats since they can't fit over my helmet. Therefore, it's bullshit!"

None of you have given examples of anything even remotely close to what is described in the videos. It's hard for me to believe you've even watched them or read my posts in this thread, especially when you keep linking my stance with a simulation.

3. Disregard what this HAS to mean or whether it 100% is or isn't a "hallucination" or "just drugs." Consider it a really fucking neat visual effect that you can induce on command. Is that not interesting enough to entertain?

Feel free to keep explaining why this can't be a thing, but I'll no longer be replying. This is something you just need to try for yourself to understand the difference. Otherwise, I'll keep hearing from people who once saw something similar that one time, which is not an explanation. I opened up the thread with the fact people have seen similar symbols randomly throughout our documented use of psychedelics. If you're not interested because you already know it's bullshit, no worries. But you leave me and the gullible nerds I'm trying to recruit into my DMT-cult the hell alone!


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385050 - 07/04/23 03:33 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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Disregard what this HAS to mean or whether it 100% is or isn't a "hallucination" or "just drugs." Consider it a really fucking neat visual effect that you can induce on command. Is that not interesting enough to entertain?




this is enough for me to be interested. no one is saying anyone has to immediately believe anything

so do i have to do DMT/mushies for this? or can this be done sober? sorry just wanted to confirm that lol


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 2
    #28385081 - 07/04/23 03:58 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

It's Pretty much damn near as it was presented in the hugely successful film Matrix films [ i've also seen it used in 6-7 other sci-fi and or fantasy genre films[]. 

If you use the search engine here you can plenty of other people including myself describing much the same or a painfully similar thing while tripping on DMT or relatively large(r) doses of fungi sometimes (and likely other substances too) - No laser was used, and yet experientially the phenomena occurred much like in the way described by the video posted in the OP.  And I dig it, wonderfully trippy awesomeness that it is. 
But it seems the human brain as affected by a psychedelic substance of sufficient dose that is the common denominator. 

Now, if using a laser in the way you've described as per the video posted earlier in the OP allows the phenomena to be reproduced reliably - then that is kind of cool, but what exactly is your point? 


There are many ways for reliably producing specific illusions & hallucinatory visual imagery.  There's basically a bag of party tricks floating around for anyone who might be interested and which Magicians, ie. Illusionists, commonly pull from to reliably produce all kinds of awesome eye candy for their audiences.

How is the so-called 'alien code' or whatever ultimately any different from ^ those? 



[*this might be only one variation ^ - bc - while tripping i've also experienced the above, but also differently at other times in which the surrounding environment is just like the way it is while I'm not tripping, only the 'unfamiliar streams of code' are juxtaposed like holograms as if floating just above the matter they're overlaid upon in my visual field - and they can remain static like that long enough for a brief inspection while moving about to view it from various angles etc etc]


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
    #28385090 - 07/04/23 04:06 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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...Brooms can’t actually fly.




Yes.

The thing OP asks ("Maybe ....the entities are really there and this is an extension of them fucking with us?") is just human brain searching for patterns. It's a survival mechanism and part of what separates us from other species. It's why we make art. It's why we go to space.

First taking LSD as a teen in the 70s I used to always see patterns in blank typing paper. Watermarks that weren't there. I could almost see words. I was just trying to organize the random / semi-random patterns of pulp that exist even in bleached high-quality white typing paper.

Anyone who thinks the machine elves are actually real is just playing with their imaginary friends.

People who believe the "entities" are real also often believe in astrology. Astrology is nonsense made up by people for whom a wheelbarrow would have been a vast increase in current technology. And again, it's trying to see patterns where there aren't the patterns they're seeing.

"You didn't see god, you were drunk as a lord."

All that said, psychedelics are a great tool for understanding life and your own brain. Seeing how tenuous our filtered vision of reality is shows how limited our brains normally see things.

They're also useful for fearing death less, a fear all reasonable humans have whether they admit it or not.

There's "a lot to unpack", but none of it is imaginary friends.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: nektar61] * 1
    #28385099 - 07/04/23 04:10 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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All that said, psychedelics are a great tool for understanding life and your own brain. Seeing how tenuous our filtered vision of reality is shows how limited our brains normally see things.




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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: hazyhorse]
    #28385106 - 07/04/23 04:15 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

No, you can't be sober. At least nobody has reported it sober like that. Feel free to act as your own control for this and play with the laser before tripping.

N,N-DMT is best used, but it can be seen on mushrooms, just not as vivid apparently. I haven't tried with mushrooms and don't know if a higher dose makes them more vivid. I'm also not sure if it's harder to get your mind/eyes to notice them at first, either. But it apparently can work.

I'll try and get the links to the laser up by later tonight.

The Blind Ass,

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How is the so-called 'alien code' or whatever ultimately any different from ^ those?




The fact it can be reproduced reliably with specific parameters. This is the distinction that you keep missing that separates this phenomena from everything else. If you don't think that makes it different (or has no point worthy of discussing), that's fine. I think most people can recognize how interesting and unique this property is.

I don't need to search for reports including symbols, man. Again, I opened up the thread specifically referencing them. I am sure I've done more research into these symbols than everyone in this thread combined. I have already read your experience with them, too, prior to making this thread. There are hundreds of reports mentioning all sorts of symbols. The majority of those are people questioning why they saw them and their meaning. How many of those reports mention a method they discovered to reveal these symbols? Maybe you should run some searches and report back.

No offense, but while I can keep explaining it to you, I can't understand it for you.

nektar,

Tests were performed on individuals who were scheduled to have an eye removed for medical reasons. For the purposes of the test, the eye was normally functioning. Test subjects stared directly at 5 mW lasers with there to-be-removed eye for five to fifteen minutes from various angles. No permanent eye damage occured. Some changes in tissue were noticed. Of course, in a real-world incident, laser light entering the eye would likely last for less than one second, as people naturally look away from bright things and close their eyes, so there is no real danger of direct damage.

But yes, it's possible you actually buy a laser with stronger power and you might accidentally stare directly into it and maybe there's infrared thrown in there, too, and also a tornado might hit.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385107 - 07/04/23 04:16 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Lasers aren't something to fuck with for entertainment.

Even the 15 dollar ones you buy on eBay and Amazon (especially the green ones, but even the red ones like in the video, to an extent) can ruin your eyes. It might be tempting to stare into them, or a reflection of them, while so high you forget your species, or even forget that you are life rather than blinding light of all colors at once.

The published power on these is often understated (to appear to follow EU / US / State laws, though the brighter it is, the more they'll sell, based on reviews.)

These cheap laser pens often also have infrared laser light you cannot see mixed in with the red or green light. That can reflect at a different angle than the green light, and can ruin your eyes without you even knowing it.

Laser protective goggles usually sold are often shit, don't work, are just sunglasses. (thanks China). Real protective laser lights are around 75 to 100 dollars, and only protect one light range, and if you get one for green, they're not going to protect against the IR given off by the same cheap 15 dollar laser pen light.

That guy in the video is talking about adding "a microscope lens", not sure if between laser and wall, or laser and eye. First will change the refraction and thus reflection in unpredictable ways, second will probably destroy your eye.

I'd recommend instead of lasers, try to see the little green men using flashing LED Christmas lights. Many are now programmable and can make groovy patterns, and don't cost much more than those cheap lasers.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385111 - 07/04/23 04:20 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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I'll try and get the links to the laser up by later tonight.

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How is the so-called 'alien code' or whatever ultimately any different from ^ those?




The fact it can be reproduced reliably with specific parameters. This is the distinction that you keep missing that separates this phenomena from everything else.






No, not really distinctive since that applies to literally all phenomenon -  each & every particular one - everything:lol:

And again, no laser is necessary for seeing the kind of hallucination being talked about here. 

While we're at it - DMT, psychedelic mushrooms, and LSD: along with several lsd analogues - (and probably other substances too) - coupled with a human brain can do the trick.  Idk if the laser is truly the deciding factor, some hard data showing that it is or otherwise would be a good start if you want to convince people to go along with what you're proposing in this thread.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385119 - 07/04/23 04:24 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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1. You are not providing evidence to the contrary of anything discussed, including your own example. Arbitrarily assigning "drugs" to everything experienced in an altered state invalidates nothing. Saying "it's drugs" is not explaining anything. It's a pointless distinction that only serves to end the discussion, not explain anything.




Yet you have to take a drug to see the code behind the simulation. Listen to yourself man.


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But you leave me and the gullible nerds I'm trying to recruit into my DMT-cult the hell alone!




So you open a thread, with what I am sure you knew was some weird I can prove we are in a simulation material, and have now lost your cool because people who have taken drugs and know the weird shit it does to your mind are replying.

Maybe it is time for you to start proving your wild claims instead of getting angry at the monitor. I am sure that it will be helpful mentally, one way or the other.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28385132 - 07/04/23 04:34 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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No, that applies to literally all phenomenons -  everything.




Do you realize literally none of the "phenomenons" you've referenced can be reproduced like this? What the fuck are you even talking about? I don't know how your brain can't recognize making something happen every single time for everyone is not the same as some people saw what resembles that thing some of the time. We're not splitting the atom or solving the Gordian knot here.

Wait, are you actually blind? That might explain some things. I hope it wasn't caused from being near a 5mW laser. Those things are as deadly as Halloween candy with razors, I hear.

While it's fun humoring "explanations" that aren't applicable and anecdotes of completely different scenarios, I have to tap out. There's at least 2 people down to try, so that's a win in my book. With links and instructions for the lasers, I'm hopeful a few more will join in from the sidelines.

While I don't believe the laser is as inherently dangerous as some are suggesting, I genuinely am convinced you probably shouldn't be allowed to use one.

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Yet you have to take a drug to see the code behind the simulation. Listen to yourself man.




I have listened to myself and I didn't say anything like that. Ah, yes, "a drug!" The deus ex machina for any situation, no matter how unlikely! Why didn't I think of that?!


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Maybe it is time for you to start proving your wild claims instead of getting angry at the monitor.




I don't have any wild claims. I'm not angry. I don't care about a simulation. I saw what the guy in the video said I would see. What this means, I do not know. Even with someone also seeing it with me, I am still not really sold. I am trying to disprove it to myself, believe it or not. I hope to have time to check again for myself this weekend. If I don't see it this time, I will report back.

What proof could I possibly have about what, Einstein? I am telling you how to see this for yourself so you DON'T have to believe anything. 90% of my replies are me explaining that I can't prove anything I'm saying to you. I'm also reminding you that when you see it, you don't have to attach the observation to anything either way.

I am sorry this confuses you. I am sorry that you appear so threatened by the idea of a simulation that you're lashing out. "If I'm simulated, why am I such a damn dweeb? Why, cruel creators, WHY?!" I get it, man. I truly do. If you got a brain smoother than a cantaloupe, why does the sloth dude preaching the laser bullshit get an IQ of 195 and a 16" cock? Like I said, I don't have the answers.

The video linked is on a channel with step-by-step instructions to build the laser. Either do it or don't, brainiac. The only thing left for me to do is realize when certain people are just way too smart to be fooled by this bullshit. And well, old friend, you've certainly proven your intellect in these back-and-forths. Please, wise one, let me focus on the more gullible now.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 2
    #28385139 - 07/04/23 04:41 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Alrighty then...

fyi - I don't need eyes to smell your bullshit.

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28385141 - 07/04/23 04:42 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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    #28385161 - 07/04/23 04:56 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

now that we know, we can go home and start packing.


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    #28385177 - 07/04/23 05:07 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28385276 - 07/04/23 06:31 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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Alrighty then...

fyi - I don't need eyes to smell your bullshit.

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A pile of shit has a thousand eyes.

It's a shame because I swear you came thiiiiis close to getting it. Like, you were right there with almost acknowledging what is different about randomly seeing something interesting vs. reliably seeing it every time. And the edit containing a description of the "unfamiliar streams of code" is particularly interesting.

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[*this might be only one variation ^ - bc - while tripping i've also experienced the above, but also differently at other times in which the surrounding environment is just like the way it is while I'm not tripping, only the 'unfamiliar streams of code' are juxtaposed like holograms as if floating just above the matter they're overlaid upon in my visual field - and they can remain static like that long enough for a brief inspection while moving about to view it from various angles etc etc]




And you're saying you see this sometimes or every single time you trip? It sounds like only sometimes and that it has appeared at random? Either way it sounds pretty fucking interesting.. almost purposeful in some way.

It reminds me of this other dude's account I read before:

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I can't be sure.  But I have seen them too and it is most fascinating and simultaneously a bit unbelievable.
The thing is the "code" or however it is displayed in my vision is not "static". By that I mean  Its not like it goes Away if I blink real hard and turn around 3 times and go away and come back .. it is still there.
It seems to be my brain and all my experience and knowledge combined into wonderfully complex yet simple coded symbols...but nothing I can consciously discern the meaning of by any stretch of the imagination.




Interesting. This person seems pretty impressed by what they saw, even calling it "most fascinating" and "a bit unbelievable." Despite being unsure of the meaning, they apparently recognize just how unique the behavior of the "hallucination" is. I agree, it's a little odd you can blink, turn around, put your left foot in and shake it all about, yet it's still there. Like it's behaving as if it's a real thing almost. I mean, it's at least not behaving like the random hallucinations I've had before.

Maybe I should've found that guy for this? Imagine if I told him there was a way to reveal that same kind of effect by doing something extremely easy? Maybe he'd consider that significant. Or at least interesting.

But even if he found it insignificant, he'd at least understand that invoking/revealing/inducing/seeing/hallucinating this effect, seemingly on command, is different than it sometimes appearing randomly, right?

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385283 - 07/04/23 06:37 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Nice try, you almost told it truthfully.

but - You already admitted earlier on that it has not worked for everyone every single time.

No shame.  Just go back to the drawing board. :leaving:


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385300 - 07/04/23 06:59 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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As if it was creatively coded in a language known by our system & only translatable to itself - if at all.  < The experiential result of which I liken to intuitively interacting with a novel, adaptive, & projected mind map that utilizes the history of the body’s sensory experience as its data points being “played” by the intellect.  Also, I forget the name of the phenomena but it occurs easily when cloud gazing - identifying patterns on/in surfaces that are really only in the mind though.  How does that play into the “text/symbol” overlay experience?
I suppose at the very least it can add another layer of dimension to the experience.

When a flashlight is applied & held to the palm of the hand while in an otherwise lightless room - the light shining through the skin will illuminate more of what is always already there in some form or another but which is otherwise normally hidden.




Very interesting theories by the same person. And a cool analogy with the flashlight illuminating something always there, but otherwise hidden. I should PM him and see if he'd like to try an experiment that lets him interact with these symbols whenever he wants. What he's describing when gazing at the sky isn't what I think the laser thing is, though. And I know all about seeing something cool when you stare at clouds. But I don't know with certainty so I can't say for sure.


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when I notice the writing which can be high or low contrast, clearly formed letters that disappear/change or alien texts I really want to be able to read it but cannot. It synaesthesiastically tastes readable.




Another person mentioning this. You were right, researching the symbols has lead me to some interesting reports. Maybe I'll message this dude, too. Maybe the laser reveals the same kinds of characters he's describing? I'm sure he'd have a better chance at deciphering them if he can reveal them for extended periods whenever he wants?


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Nice try, you almost told it truthfully.

but - You already admitted earlier on that it has not worked for everyone every single time.

No shame.  Just go back to the drawing board.




"Only a 99% success rate so far? To do something that shouldn't really be possible at all? PFFFT, big whoop! Hey, it might produce an amazing experience that has completely wowwed me in the past, but what am I bothering for if only 99% of people can see it? Hell, according to Big Statistic, 99% of people stop shitting themselves by the time they reach adulthood. Well, here I am, 42 years young and still making plop-plop in my undies. Sorry, but I've been played by those kind of odds before."

I really wish you understood how much of a complete fucking idiot you sound like right now. Despite me making fun of you, we are not enemies on this, my man. Your default doesn't have to be disbelieving or fighting back at shit I'm saying. What's the harm in trying what is suggested? You're afraid you might like it or something? I don't even know what you're rejecting. You said you've seen the code before, thought it was unbelievable, and seemed eager to tell people about it. Why isn't this interesting to you?

You seem to think it's completely explainable and obvious why a laser would produce these kinds of hallucinations. Ok, boom, solved it. Oh hey, look, the magic combination to display the shit you previously geeked out over. Why exactly are you so against this again? At the very least, try it, confirm it's the same thing, and work with everyone to disprove it as anything more than pattern-matching from our brains. That would be a solid result for me because I am interested in the truth.

$20 maximum investment. Even if it doesn't work, you get a laser, so that's cool. Plus you can rub it in my face that I mailed Laserboy in the video $500 to join his cult AND I severed my 20" dong. All for nothing!

If it does work, you can still maintain your position of, "Who gives a fuck? I saw this before and this is no different!" Or you can just lie and pretend you didn't see anything. Either way, you seriously should buy some diapers or something at least.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385310 - 07/04/23 07:13 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

*6 years ago:

A few things mentioned in these posts need editing as I was struggling to convey parts of my trips that are a challenge to communicate, and so I just did whatever I could at the time to get it out one way or the other in the form of a worded post.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24128135#24128135

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24128297#24128297

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24129356#24129356

At the end of the day it is a hallucination, fact.
Albeit, earlier on it was a mind-blowingly cool one. It still is just things developed forward from that point on so yeah. :lol:

There's lots more where that came from but I think you get the picture and even if not I can't waste anymore time on this right now.  GL. :thumbup:


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28385325 - 07/04/23 07:35 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

Also you're using the word "admitted" like something slipped or there's a crack in the armor now. I voluntarily mentioned the 2 failings out of 185 or something, jus as the actual dude did. I am not pitching something or obfuscating some nefarious shit. There are a tiny % of people who get 0 effect from DMT, the most potent psychedelic we can get our hands on. That doesn't suddenly make it no longer a psychedelic, does it?

How about this. If you:

  • Live in the US
  • Pinky promise to give it an honest try
  • Make a conscious effort to potty-train


I'll build another laser just for you and even mail it to you for free. It might take me a week or so before I have time, but it's no trouble at all. My trade ratings are 100% and multiple TCs and others can attest to me being a straight shooter. There's a few who might say I ripped them off or stole their identity, but trust me, they're lying. If that happens, let me know, and a Facebook account with their exact name will message you and explain how it was all a simple misunderstanding. Unlike this laser bullshit, that kinda thing can't be faked. I'll shred your address immediately after and won't even line the envelope with anthrax, either. Hell, I'll even throw in a couple risqué pictures of me in a bikini, free of charge!

Really, though. Let me know, dude. What do you have to lose?
Stop being a fucking baby.
Do you agree the description The Blind Ass gave of his code remaining static and in position like that is both peculiar and interesting?
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385352 - 07/04/23 08:13 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)

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the code is displayed on our visual field juxtaposed atop "external" reality,
interestingly enough I found that you can unlock or manipulate it through body posture and tactile sensation on the skin.  Last time I did that I was able to recall memories which I had forgotten about completely, as if they were locked away and forgotten, but now available.  It was unbelievable.  I remember thinking to myself, LUL - this is impossible - as I do it. Got to love psilocybin.  It then became easy to see more than one memory at once, something that once again is to my understanding until then an impossible feat.
As if one was an invisible observer , disembodied, yet the driver of of this thing within a sphere composed of light like neural networks that reflect all my experience and memory and things that had passed and things that were becoming from the trace or wake of what I was, something I can only call the aggregates of "me".




This was the entry I'd read from you that convinced me to make this thread, by the way. I was going to PM you specifically, but just bumped a thread you posted in with hopes you'd see it. I thought you'd be fascinated with the idea of triggering the code somehow and playing with it some more. Unbelievable, seemingly impossible feats achieved through seeing this code struck me as something you'd want to explore more. I would personally love to hear from you after fucking with the laser.

Regardless, I find this fascinating and it isn't something I've found others talking about. It seems like something akin to the Akashic Records that you're accessing. I have found many people claiming the symbols seem to communicate or hold information. Our dreams being thought to do with our memories is also interesting to me. Particularly because the hallucinations during sleep are so intertwined with the DMT experiences. So many people seeing greys during sleep paralysis, many of them reporting the feeling of their brain being downloaded or unlocked and stuff. I have also found many people who see these symbols during hypnagogic states, too. Interesting shit. Unrelated to the laser and the code, but interesting nonetheless.

Do you mind sharing more about the experience you had with manipulating the information found in the code? I really want to hear more about the memories being unlocked and whatnot. How many times did you have this experience since then? Or total, ever? "Hallucinations" or not, that's a unique experience I'd like to have. It's a real experience you had, one that apparently unlocked real memories you'd forgotten. Whether that's "hallucinating" or not is up to each person's own definitions, I guess. Please share more.


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    #28385457 - 07/04/23 10:03 PM (6 months, 21 days ago)



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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: cubedryeguy]
    #28385575 - 07/05/23 04:02 AM (6 months, 20 days ago)

I watch videos 3 times and most of talking is not about the seeing code or techiques to see it but rather philosophy about his point of view. I think this perception is an optical phenomena that can be explainable with classical optical psychics, which is pronounced with 5-ht2 psychedelics. However I found it interesting, I will probably try with mushies, avoiding high reflective surfaces.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: barisk22] * 1
    #28385611 - 07/05/23 05:11 AM (6 months, 20 days ago)

Glad to hear it. The philosophy part of it is most important to me, I think. Because so many people immediately reject it as "just drugs" or "it's a hallucination!" It seems to me these are arbitrary distinctions we make from limited information. And if we don't reconsider these pointless distinctions (that don't really explain anything anyway), we're limiting ourselves quite significantly.

Please keep us updated and let me know if you'd like to chat regarding building the laser and seeing the effect. #SYD1230 is the diode you want.

1. 650nm 5mW Laser w/ Diffractive Grating (Cross)
2. USB Cable
3. Microscope Lens
4. Electrical Tape or Heat Shrink.

Notes:

  • That specific laser has everything required to reveal the code. Any old laser won't work, so make sure you get that model (or one that has a diffracted lens, same wavelength and maximum output of 5mW). A cross beam is optimal, but a single line can work, too. A dot cannot.
  • The USB cable from Amazon is optional as it can be replaced with any old USB cable you have sitting around. Just cut the other end off so you only have the USB portion left. The cables I linked are helpful because they're pretty long and have an on/off button.
  • Microscope lens is optional, but widens the beam a lot more. This makes it easier to see the code. It isn't 100% necessary, but helps.


To connect power source to laser:

If using an existing USB cable, strip it until you reveal the thinner wires underneath. You only need the red/black (double-check their polarity ahead of time). If using the Amazon cable linked above, the red/black will already be exposed, so skip to the next part.

Carefully strip the ends off the red/black to expose the bare wire. Do the same for the laser. You'll be wiring the positive from the USB to the positive of the laser. Do the same for the black wires, USB to laser. Google for videos on how this is done if it's confusing. It's actually very simple. The red and black wires shouldn't be touching or connected together in any way.

Once connected properly, you want to cover any exposed wire with either electrical tape or heat shrink (or both). Again, you're covering/insulating these separately, not together. Cover the red wire. Then cover the black wire. Once both are covered with no exposed wiring, you can tape them together (personally, I do this after I've made sure it works -- and don't plug anything in until you've gotten exposed wires covered). I think this should make sense to everyone, but if not, ask (or Google).

If you're good at soldering, have at it instead. I've made a few now and have done a combo of each of them, including one with solder and one with only electrical tape to make sure it worked. They all did. Heat shrink is optional as electrical tape alone can work just fine, but it's a little cleaner.

I'd make sure it works first before you really cover up everything tight. When checking if the connection works, I set the laser down and plug the USB in -- preferably in a surge protector/power strip you can flip the switch on/off without contacting the laser or cable directly. This is probably just me being extra cautious, though. To be clear, there shouldn't be any exposed wires when testing it. Then once you see it works, that's when I'd really tape up the wire connections tightly.

Best practices should be followed when doing anything electronic. I'm not a licensed electrician by any means. The local police and judge were very, very clear on that. Anything with electricity should be respected and taken seriously.

I'm going to build a couple more soon enough. I will update this with pictures or something when that happens. I wrote this quick so if something doesn't make sense, chime in and I'll patch it up if someone gets electrocuted. Shocking, I know.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28385628 - 07/05/23 05:33 AM (6 months, 20 days ago)

I commend you for keeping busy


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28385650 - 07/05/23 06:19 AM (6 months, 20 days ago)

We all need hobbies, right? I'm down to wire a laser to an old phone charger for a chance to see this really, really interesting visual phenomena. $5 and 20 minutes or so is money and time well spent to me, regardless of result. I got better at soldering and wound up with a nifty laser. What's the issue? Sure, the FAA is on my case for shining it into that cockpit, but we all know what a bunch of whiny pussies those guys are.

On the off-chance I do see that cool effect, hell yeah. I hear it "synaesthesiastically tastes readable." No idea what the fuck that means, but it sounds interesting enough.

But don't worry, Greenstein, I'll still put in a good word for you with the bosses of the simulation.

"He's really not a bad guy, fellas. Don't be too harsh because he didn't believe in you. Yeah, the guy with his picture as his avatar. That's right, the one that looks like it was taken as a security measure when people keep entering the wrong PIN at the lock screen. There he is. Please don't hurt him like he hurt us."

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    #28385664 - 07/05/23 06:46 AM (6 months, 20 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28385959 - 07/05/23 01:26 PM (6 months, 20 days ago)

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nektar61 said:
That guy in the video is talking about adding "a microscope lens", not sure if between laser and wall, or laser and eye. First will change the refraction and thus reflection in unpredictable ways, second will probably destroy your eye.

I'd recommend instead of lasers, try to see the little green men using flashing LED Christmas lights. Many are now programmable and can make groovy patterns, and don't cost much more than those cheap lasers.

Even the 15 dollar ones you buy on eBay and Amazon (especially the green ones, but even the red ones like in the video, to an extent) can ruin your eyes. It might be tempting to stare into them, or a reflection of them, while so high you forget your species, or even forget that you are life rather than blinding light of all colors at once.




  • You shine the laser through the microscope lens to make the beam bigger. Why would it go in-between the laser and your eye? Do you think any of this involves staring directly into a laser?

  • Okay, you actually do. No, it isn't tempting to stare right into a laser beam. I'm pretty certain most of us would naturally turn away instantly as a natural response.

  • Nobody should be "so high you forget your species, or even forget that you are life rather than blinding light of all colors at once." The experiment requires lower, sub-breakthrough doses of DMT. Please don't "reefer madness" DMT for no reason, especially if you've never done it.

  • Light refraction doesn't mean light reflection. I have no idea where you're getting this. A light will refract when it passes through any medium with a refractive index different from the previous one. Air > Glass in this case. It doesn't mean the beam goes crazy, "reflecting" everywhere. If passing a light through glass caused "reflection in unpredictable ways", how would headlights work safely?

  • The microsope lens will either expand or contract the spread of the beam (depending on which side you're using). That's it. It's not a mirror or a prism or something. It also doesn't make the beam stronger.

  • Flashing LED lights for what? The experiment isn't "stare at some trippy lights and see stuff." It also doesn't involve green lasers or random pointer pens. It requires a specific wavelength (650nm / red) with a diffracted lens and a maximum output of 5mW (rated pretty damn safe everywhere I've checked). You project it onto a door or wall, not your eye or a reflective surface. You get close to the object it's beaming onto while keeping your back to the laser. That's it.


The bulk of what I know about lasers came from researching this experiment and building them for it. I'm definitely not an expert and something above may be wrong. Any corrections will be appreciated, especially if something said above is dangerous.

Thank you for contributing. I agree that the max output stated is not a guarantee on these Chinese lasers. I consider this to be the most likely added danger. Any discomfort caused by the laser should be taken seriously and all experiments should stop. Do you have a source on IR being found in these? That's concerning since we can't see it.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28386511 - 07/05/23 11:04 PM (6 months, 20 days ago)

Why? Just why

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28386619 - 07/06/23 01:10 AM (6 months, 19 days ago)

What part is confusing you?


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    #28386636 - 07/06/23 01:45 AM (6 months, 19 days ago)

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Why? Just why

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Idk either

But look, man - don't ask why uNtiL YoU tRy iT.

I know the details are currently just a little bit too fuzzy to understand, but I swear mister, that this here is a legitimate scientific operation!
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28386687 - 07/06/23 03:57 AM (6 months, 19 days ago)

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But look, man - don't ask why uNtiL YoU tRy iT.




Why what, though? Seriously, what more is there to get? Neither of you appear to have any interest in this, yet keep returning to say nothing.

I've answered questions non-stop; probably nearly every single one. A sizable chunk of time was spent with you personally. I never did get a response on those alleged views of mine, by the way. I wasn't able to get you to understand that a single instance of something happening at random isn't the same as a repeated instance of something happening on command, though I did try.

I said I can't explain the laser effect for you. You know, since I can't, being that it's entirely subjective and all that. But if you got something to ask that we haven't covered ad nauseam? Fire away.


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I know the details are currently just a little bit too fuzzy to understand




The details aren't fuzzy, though. In fact, I honestly can't imagine clearer details for something like this. In this thread alone, I've provided:

  • written detailed overview of the discovery
  • 2 video explanations from who the guy who made the discovery
  • specifics on how to replicate the experiment yourself
  • technical details on the laser model required
  • Amazon links to everything required for laser
  • step-by-step instructions on wiring the laser to power source
  • helpful comments from Dan to answer user questions
  • way more hand-holding than should be necessary with you


I also offered to build and ship you a laser for free because I'd like your input.


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but I swear mister, that this here is a legitimate scientific operation!




No, this obviously isn't a legitimate scientific operation. It's never been presented as such. It's a group of people playing with a laser on potent psychedelics. Why does this matter?

You saw the code in the wild and were absolutely fascinated with how unique and unbelievable it was. You clearly played around with the code to discover that cool tactile/memory effect. You also wanted to go back and draw them. Are either of those scientific studies? No. Does that somehow invalidate the subsequent information you discovered? No, of course not.

Come on, man. Quit being a dumbass just to be a dumbass. There's legitimately no reason what-so-ever you should be so against trying this. It's like you're imagining me as some cult leader trying to recruit you.

I would like us to be on the same side. Your input and experiences with the code are especially valuable to me. Even if you don't try the laser, I wish you'd share more of your experiences with the code. It seems like your code and what the laser reveals are extremely similar, if not the same.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28386779 - 07/06/23 06:31 AM (6 months, 19 days ago)

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amazingly, obvious bullshit is not obvious to everyone.
it's even amazing without DMT,
astonishing even.

the frame stacking effect will produce everything that appears in this hallucination with or without a laser.

when you are quite stoned, visual frames will not completely fade in 3/10 second as per usual, they will bunch up and overlap interacting with afterimages (which are like negatives) and this produces edges that look like lines (often quite neon like lines).

meantime your head is always moving a bit, and your eyes saccade as well, therefore when quite stoned you will definitely have patterns forming and due to the grid like arrangement of cerebral visual processing areas, the resulting stoned image will appear to be either hieroglyphic-al or alien textual in a grid form which is what lines of text are. I often get cartoons. or even unrecognizable Latin text.

You can easily fall into your own animation of sustained buffered vision because of this - it is not the matrix - the matrix is a fantasy, the laser will only add energy to it.

nothing more.

of course you could try it with a tin foil hat, and even better build a pyramid and do it inside the pyramid. this kind of thing is endless.




Do you not feel silly thinking you're accurately explaining something you have no frame of reference to? Perhaps it's time we take the ego down a notch when you think you're explaining "everything that appears in this hallucination" when you have no idea what actually appears in this hallucination?

You droned on for a half-dozen paragraphs with examples that immediately disqualify your explanation. The descriptions given don't match the laser effect at all, which would be clear if you paid attention. If you can't be bothered to watch the videos, can you at least be less of a smug prick when you next suggest something completely worthless?

You're unwilling to watch the videos, read the thread, ask questions in good faith, or even try the laser out yourself (despite me offering to mail you one). Yet you're in here calling it bullshit with no clue wtf you're even talking about. Being a confidently incorrect know-it-all isn't quite the flex you think it is.

What good is your "HAHAH, this is total bullshit and it's astonishing you believe it" tone, anyway? All that energy does is unnecessarily draw a line in the sand. It's not conducive to a meaningful discussion. It just makes you far less open to new information that might make you reconsider your position. Plus you look dumb when you're nowhere near correct. FOR SHAAAAAME.

A few of you almost seem terrified at the idea of having fun with the laser. Bunch of laserphobes.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 2
    #28386905 - 07/06/23 09:41 AM (6 months, 19 days ago)

I can confirm that I got a sincere offer to get a free laser.
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    #28386919 - 07/06/23 09:53 AM (6 months, 19 days ago)

It’s just a laser and drugs you want to take anyway. No reason not to.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 3
    #28386963 - 07/06/23 10:23 AM (6 months, 19 days ago)

Right? But hey, no pressure to Greenstein. I mean, hell, I probably wouldn't have the courage to stare at a laser, either, if I were such a huge chicken! BOK-BOK-BOOK-BK-BK-BOK-BWAAAAWK!

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    #28387051 - 07/06/23 11:47 AM (6 months, 19 days ago)

A bit off track but I've seen "it" with both DMT and high dose fungus (no laser or special techniques needed), more so with the former than the latter.  I'm of the opinion that what we "see" are not hallucinations, but reality that is not visible without the aid of the active ingredients.  Just my opinion and tbh, not really interested in debating or arguing, it's just my opinion.

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    #28387054 - 07/06/23 11:49 AM (6 months, 19 days ago)

On acid I’ve seen more organized figures, numbers, things like that. Also when combining mush and acid. Usually a mixture of numbers and glyphs.

I like the theory that it opens up our perception to things that are there we can’t usually see without it. It’s a cool idea.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28387075 - 07/06/23 12:01 PM (6 months, 19 days ago)

I said no to the laser offer.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines] * 5
    #28387088 - 07/06/23 12:18 PM (6 months, 19 days ago)

You will receive the laser and you will enjoy it.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
    #28387110 - 07/06/23 12:40 PM (6 months, 19 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28387207 - 07/06/23 02:27 PM (6 months, 19 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28387221 - 07/06/23 02:37 PM (6 months, 19 days ago)

So this has been another amanita muscaria diversion. Fabricate nonsense to be in association with psychedelics to water down any meaningful reports about the subject matter - and de facto limit it to priests and technicians of science who push the agenda of their overlords who run the pharmaceutical industry. This has been done for a long time. If enough insane stories are in association with something then people will be less confident about what they think they know about it. This is exactly what has happened countless times. It is incredibly demoralizing to see, and it is absolutely a subject of depression for me, along with this recent Supreme Court crap and media companies who seem to be cranking up the homophobia for some reason.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit]
    #28387244 - 07/06/23 02:57 PM (6 months, 19 days ago)

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A bit off track but I've seen "it" with both DMT and high dose fungus (no laser or special techniques needed), more so with the former than the latter.  I'm of the opinion that what we "see" are not hallucinations, but reality that is not visible without the aid of the active ingredients.  Just my opinion and tbh, not really interested in debating or arguing, it's just my opinion.





Yes, that's what the laser experiment is trying to show, as well. That there's an actual something present in our everyday life, but we need to alter our perception first with the active ingredients to interact with it. I think.

You're correct that you don't "need" the laser to see it. It's pretty fascinating how many people report seeing some kind of code or symbols. When you mention having seen it before, you mean randomly and not every time you trip, right? Do you know about how frequently it'll pop up?


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So this has been another amanita muscaria diversion. Fabricate nonsense to be in association with psychedelics to water down any meaningful reports about the subject matter - and de facto limit it to priests and technicians of science who push the agenda of their overlords who run the pharmaceutical industry. This has been done for a long time. If enough insane stories are in association with something then people will be less confident about what they think they know about it. This is exactly what has happened countless times. It is incredibly demoralizing to see, and it is absolutely a subject of depression for me, along with this recent Supreme Court crap and media companies who seem to be cranking up the homophobia for some reason.




I legitimately have no idea what you're talking about. Are you sure you're in the right thread?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28387294 - 07/06/23 03:31 PM (6 months, 19 days ago)

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I legitimately have no idea what you're talking about. Are you sure you're in the right thread?




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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28387623 - 07/06/23 08:06 PM (6 months, 19 days ago)

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Why spread such psychotic disinformation?



I pointed out earlier in this thread that the entities aren't real, they're imaginary friends. StareAtLasers stareatclouds didn't like it.

Then I mentioned the much more important bit about the danger of playing with even cheap lasers, especially while stoned, especially attaching lenses like in the video (or spinning them), or even pointing them randomly around your room where they can reflect into your eye.

THAT should be the takeaway from this thread.

stareatclouds, who has no idea what he's talking about, basically told me to fuck off, ending with "But yes, it's possible you actually buy a laser with stronger power and you might accidentally stare directly into it and maybe there's infrared thrown in there, too, and also a tornado might hit."

I didn't reply.

Then stareatclouds sent me a DM (we've never talked before) and tried to gaslight me by saying he wasn't telling me to fuck off.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: nektar61]
    #28387860 - 07/07/23 02:12 AM (6 months, 18 days ago)

Lol maybe off topic but something interesting...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_Venus_and_Roma


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux] * 2
    #28388198 - 07/07/23 09:29 AM (6 months, 18 days ago)

I didn't mind that post of yours at all. You specifically cherry-picking one of my "Maybe it's this? Or maybe it's that? Who knows?" to hone in one on part was disingenuous, though. Any annoyance I'd have is because you seem to only do it to pump up your own ego by dunking on people you think are stupid. You're like a 13-year old atheist insulting everyone who believes in God. Sure, you might be right that God isn't real, but you're not conveying any novel idea that Christians don't already consider. It's not impressive thought, just a kid being an asshole.

It's funny watching it because you aren't even understanding what is being said. The "entities" are absolutely there, whether a construction of your own psyche or external. This isn't debatable. It's a real experience that many have had. When I say maybe it's just an extension of that fucking with us, it's just that. It doesn't prove they're external beings in another dimension.

I also said it could just be triggering whatever the mechanism is in our head that lets people see this code randomly. You honed in on one possibility, took it out of context, misunderstood it, and then proceeded with your, "HAHA FOOLS!" routine, despite never having done DMT yourself. No offense, but your opinion on DMT is worthless. But I never mentioned anything because I don't care too much.

In another thread, however, you stated your opinion, incredibly rudely, that entities aren't real and anyone who believes so are stupid people who also believe in astrology. This is clearly what you're referencing, so I'm not sure why you brought it here? I pointed out, as politely as I could, that you're sharing your opinion as fact and to show more kindness to people who've had intense psychedelic experiences. Go respond to it in that DMT thread where you're commenting on the experiences of drugs you've never done, Mr. "stareatclouds has no idea what the fuck he's talking about!"

You mentioned dangers with the laser that showed how little you know about both lasers themselves and how to use one for the experiment. There is no spinning, the lens itself does not change anything, and they don't shine about randomly because you're "stoned." Perhaps you should think more before sharing uninformed opinions as fact about things you have no experience with? I noticed you didn't respond to anything, though, so whatever.

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stareatclouds, who has no idea what he's talking about, basically told me to fuck off, ending with "But yes, it's possible you actually buy a laser with stronger power and you might accidentally stare directly into it and maybe there's infrared thrown in there, too, and also a tornado might hit."




Before you posted, I stated the biggest danger was that you get a laser with a higher rating than stated. I also affirmed this again in my post correcting you. You seem to think staring directly at the laser is recommended. It isn't. Anywhere. Regardless, I didn't "basically tell you to fuck off." I posted text from a study where 5mW lasers were pointed at eyeballs directly. Maybe you should read it to alleviate some of your off-base concerns?

Nobody is telling you to beam a laser on a mirror, dude. The only use for a mirror is for you to walk up to one, stare into it, and repeat after me: "I will stop advising people on drugs, experiences, and objects that I have zero experience with."

If I don't know what I'm talking about, please correct me ANYWHERE I'm wrong about the laser. I went through your post point-by-point and invited corrections. I think it's more likely you didn't reply because you don't have a response to my corrections.

Apparently I'm old school where I believe PMs should stay in PMs, but I guess not. I messaged you saying I didn't want you to think I was gunning for you on the boards or had something personal against you due to these recent, larger responses of mine. That's me being a polite adult trying to avoid unnecessary conflict, not "gaslighting." You aren't even using the term "gaslighting" correctly.

Grow up, man. If you see these responses as telling you to "fuck off", you'll see monsters everywhere you want. The point of that message was specifically so you didn't think there was animosity, because there isn't. Obviously I was correct in assuming you might take it that way. While everyone would probably appreciate you not sharing private messages they send you publicly, I don't want you to "fuck off." I'd love for you to respond to my post about the lasers ITT.


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Lol maybe off topic but something interesting...




All of your posts ITT are annoyingly off-topic.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 2
    #28388234 - 07/07/23 10:12 AM (6 months, 18 days ago)

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You will receive the laser and you will enjoy it.




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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28390108 - 07/09/23 08:38 AM (6 months, 16 days ago)

Interesting.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Warrk] * 1
    #28390578 - 07/09/23 05:07 PM (6 months, 16 days ago)

I'll accept and return a free laser to test the theory if offered.

To me it doesn't logically make sense that a laser would make text but the brain can interpret things in interesting ways. On Datura I had a few experiences like this. Datura gives you real hallucinations, without any lazers. Texture became text. I looked at a fuzzy chair and little paragraphs of text would align out of the fibers. Of course you can't read them even when trying to focus. I went to the bathroom to pee in the toilet and noticed a small rectangular piece of paper stuck to the inside of the toilet bowl. Looked like the strip from a fortune cookie, the water adhered it face-down to the bowl and made the paper transparent enough to see through to the text, but it was hard to read being upside down and backwards. Of course, that was not actually there at all. That night I fell asleep and was dreaming of browsing the shroomery when I suddenly became lucid. I realized I was scrolling and there was this rectangular grid of avatars with posts of various shapes and lengths next to them. The text was English and actually readable, but the syntax wasn't there. It was just random words spaced out to look like sentences and paragraphs. But they made zero sense. "Parakeet dot a bell dance or super was axe like a we stage red after?"

On DMT the most relatable experience I've had was vaping it while at my desk during a FB conversation with a friend. I was looking at the messenger window on my monitor and the text was suddenly pictographic symbols. I thought that was pretty cool and interesting. My interpretation is there's something happening to the language or cognition centers of the brain on DMT. I also can't speak on DMT, it comes out glossolalia. I try not to have verbal disruptions during it but I think the opposite is also true, I can't understand people speaking to me during it.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Icon]
    #28390805 - 07/09/23 08:25 PM (6 months, 16 days ago)

Well, as much as I hate to admit it, rektum69 or whatever his name is was right. Unfortunately I might've seriously underestimated the dangers of playing with a laser. I won't sugarcoat or downplay this shit since safety is crucial and I want you all to be safe. I had a friend over today to check the laser and somehow the laser hit his eyes. It had to have been a 1:100000 shot the way the light randomly reflected everywhere as I was spinning the magnification lens around. It's been an hour and his vision is still pretty messed up.

I'm not even really sure what happened. He's still over here since he can't drive home yet. God dammit. I'm gonna have him give a breakdown on what happened since he can explain it better than me, ugh. I guess don't check if you're squeamish or can't handle stuff about eyeballs. In his words:

hsheuthe efhewfe wew

jfeiheop32-59(#&%30ef  h WHFFHhe e htwru9y4i0]\et]tu89Y3,,,,,, ewfwefwefwefwefwe gry575th grggsrgrry547 li;o;lmgngfgr5y5 tSFFE GEGegsg g                 
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28390860 - 07/09/23 09:28 PM (6 months, 16 days ago)

sounds bad
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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28390863 - 07/09/23 09:31 PM (6 months, 16 days ago)

He'll be alright with enough thoughts and prayers. But whatever, I got bigger fish to fry.

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I'll see what I can do about a laser. Or just buy one because they're $5.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28390879 - 07/09/23 09:52 PM (6 months, 16 days ago)

I saw this on reddit when first posted and a few folks said theyd try it but never did. Has anyone tried it here?


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    #28390881 - 07/09/23 09:54 PM (6 months, 16 days ago)

I wish he mentioned which numerals appeared specifically.


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    #28390886 - 07/09/23 10:06 PM (6 months, 16 days ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Icon]
    #28390940 - 07/10/23 12:07 AM (6 months, 16 days ago)

morrowasted,

I have tried it. My friend tried it with me. We both saw the code. You can dig and find what the code resembles if you want, but please don't post it in here. If you check the thread, I posted how to make your own laser on the cheap. You should give it a try.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28390954 - 07/10/23 12:48 AM (6 months, 15 days ago)

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morrowasted,

I have tried it. My friend tried it with me. We both saw the code. You can dig and find what the code resembles if you want, but please don't post it in here. If you check the thread, I posted how to make your own laser on the cheap. You should give it a try.



I don't want any kind of specific code. I just want to know what numerals are in there. I trust ya


I've had some experiences where I felt like I was seeing some sort of matrix code by moving lights in front of my ceiling fan in certain ways while, but when I try to remember them I can't recall the shapes of the symbols

I don't really think that the idea of this being a simulation is important even if it's true so I guess my main question is what would be the benefits of doing this? The last time I did DMT I very much felt like I had tapped into a much higher truth, but I also found myself feeling distant and isolated from other people. It could totally be worth it to see this code but just because multiple people can see the same code at the same time doesn't mean that seeing the code will help you do much. It could just be that whatever you see is a reflection of what people are doing and that as soon as you're done seeing it you should just go do things.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: morrowasted]
    #28391208 - 07/10/23 09:56 AM (6 months, 15 days ago)

I also don't think it's important. No reason to do DMT for the code if DMT makes you feel distant or isolated, in my opinion.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28391268 - 07/10/23 11:45 AM (6 months, 15 days ago)

In lieu of dmt atm I’m having to wait until I can munch on enough homegrown mushies that are still far from ready before I can splurge me code, gnome sayin?

I figure If I could have about 1~3 minutes worth of time with it while mostly static, then I could sketch the 'floating holographic-like, pareidolia-esque, symbol-laden streams of so-called 'code'. 

So long as said hallucination occurs like it has before again while stacking nice & neatly organized along a mostly smooth surface and endures like such for however long it takes to trace it out, or sketch it out decently enough on say an ipad or with just pencil & paper, and while tripping relatively hard... not to mention, if even manageable at all in the first place.  I'm leaning toward it maybe being possible to do so, but I suppose we shall see in good time.

Why?  ‘cuz it’s kewl, and imma trooper, plus it’s fun.  :mushroom2:



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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28391317 - 07/10/23 12:52 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

I am quite tempted to give it a shot.

Should I just buy the damn thing or build it myself? I feel like i SHOULD do the latter just to be fully certain no trickery is afoot


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    #28391320 - 07/10/23 12:55 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

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That's cool, but I see that language without needing some special setup in many static viewing areas such as a white popcorn ceiling or wall, looking at my arm hairs, etc. etc.  I've seen everything from latin words to a druidic/glyphic type language on LSD many times.

Alex Grey and his wife has been very good at replicating the glyphic languages from LSD and DMT.



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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28391331 - 07/10/23 01:08 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

Hell yeah. Nice pics. You drew that one on the right, too? Fibonacci-esque. Thought microscope at first, but almost like a  neural structure?

Glad to have you back and chiming in, buddy. Just LMK if you change your mind on trying the laser. I have the perfect one for you that I built using bones I found in an ancient Native American burial ground. I think it's good luck!

But no stress if you'd prefer sticking with your traditional methods. How'd you say you did that again? Mentioned dimmed lights and a couple candles, Luther Vandross' Greatest Hits and something about a cucumber? Whatever, it doesn't matter.

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    #28391362 - 07/10/23 01:46 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

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Now we're talking.

If not to be able to say I did it with t3h l4z0r,
then to be able to fully live up to my namesake.  :lol:

Ha, actually, what I would like to see is if I might be able to tell (whilst tripping) how, if even, the appearance of what is being called 'code' can come about with classical physics w/ a hint of psychedelia. 

Anywho, I'm more prone to believe it as something emergent of mind ala 8B/8A geometry via a high dose of a psychedelic, more prevalent on tryptamines than lysergamides - though it can and does happen while on the latter too.

I wonder if maybe it's as if what happens when a bare bones optical illusion of sorts is incorporated by the brain as expressed via Mind's hallucinations if when sufficiently psychedelicized.

Let me talk to someone first about this whole shebang and afterwards i'll see to you about mailing said miniaturized CERN device - ahem, 'laser'.

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28391380 - 07/10/23 02:04 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

I knew you'd come around eventually and join the cool kids. Sure, talk to whoever. Let them know some strange man from the interwebs is trying to mail you the simulation beam.

I'm open to any and all interpretations and love the idea of experimenting. In my opinion, it's absolutely not an optical illusion or a trick of the laser light. I think you'll be able to discount those quick enough. But you're way more knowledgeable on psychedelic code than me.

LSD is still an unknown as to whether it works with the laser or not. So if anyone here tries the laser on acid, please let me know how it goes.

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    #28391405 - 07/10/23 02:41 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

you can keep on staring at clouds, that's where I will join you and see the same different thing.
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    #28391587 - 07/10/23 06:08 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

You see the same thing in every object when tripping, eh? That's pretty interesting.


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    #28391665 - 07/10/23 07:21 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

I saw the code on a high dose of human extracted dmt and I’m here to spill the universal beans.

It’s up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right-b-a

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    #28391744 - 07/10/23 08:03 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

Konami code will bring you lots of life, but 007-373-5963 will take it away. :wink:


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    #28391921 - 07/10/23 10:20 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

wow this thread has been a ride lol

idk that i'll have the time to try the laser super soon, & don't have access to DMT so would have to use mushrooms instead, but i'd still like to give this a go soon. thanks for posting the directions, stare! if i get around to it soon i'll post back some thoughts


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: hazyhorse] * 2
    #28391930 - 07/10/23 10:31 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

Apparently 2.5g of mush is the reported threshold dose for the laser. Obviously that's just a ballpark since everyone's different and mush varies in potency. Y'all come back real soon!


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    #28391933 - 07/10/23 10:34 PM (6 months, 15 days ago)

oh fuck yeah that's an easy dose of mush :dogpipe:


if i get an opportunity in the next few weeks i'll slap that magnified high power laser swinging contraption around in a room of funhouse mirrors & get back to ya chief


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    #28392011 - 07/11/23 01:24 AM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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    #28392067 - 07/11/23 04:31 AM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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Apparently 2.5g of mush is the reported threshold dose for the laser. Obviously that's just a ballpark since everyone's different and mush varies in potency. Y'all come back real soon!



I sent him an email. I havent verified that his device works on my own yet but I've seen what I think he is talking about by manipulating light filaments while on DMT and ketamine right around the time this video was released, actually.

I remember feeling like I had received a huge information download and I started typing in a lot of mixed symbols and splitting my phonemes in apart in weird ways for a couple of weeks. some of y'all may remember; the posts are still there.

I have an idea related to RGV's C-T loop/'consciousness' thread that may take whatever replicability/verifiability this thing has to the next level and/or make reproducing the effect less dependent on the laser wavelength/distance specifications. Unfortunately it will require purchasing a device that costs nearly $1000 bc... well, DMT is a big nono where I would usually see said device


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: morrowasted]
    #28392080 - 07/11/23 05:01 AM (6 months, 14 days ago)

Interesting. What device?


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    #28392082 - 07/11/23 05:07 AM (6 months, 14 days ago)

https://www.emotiv.com/

If you can put together what I am hoping to do please keep it to yourself because I dont wanna jeopardize anything with bias


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    #28392090 - 07/11/23 05:25 AM (6 months, 14 days ago)

That glyph experience I had on DMT+Ket happened shortly before I made this thread. I had not much stock in the experience myself, but you'll see what I am talking about from this thread. keep scrolling.... I was obsessing over how I could put string all the sounds together and then break them back apart in different ways to produce a kind of novel message out of extant symbols:


https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28311980#28311980


One week later I randomly this obscure article just showed up on my feed and I posted it:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28324042

2 couple weeks later, again. I mention the glyph experience here because I am finally starting to wonder....

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28345513

If you use YHWH (72) as the limit for a function I am toying around with, the maximum permutations possible is 155542, or (2^6)(3^5) in prime factors (We are potentially talking about a PRIME MOVER here, after all...)

I don't think his simulation analogy fits unless you conceive of we ourselves as those who designed it, with a built in function that allows you to alter the code while executing it. Not to say there arent aliens, but it seems in this cosmos.... Well... I'm still chewing on it. I'd rather not say too much until I have something more tangible.


I think there is something interesting about the fact that cuneiform symbols consist only of triangles affixed to lines. There are no curved symbols, but there are curved symbols on much older stones found throughout the world.

In fact the oldest symbols I have seen, from Ireland, are almost entirely just galaxy/ripple-in-pond figures, but you'll see the cuneiform symbol for "Sun", a diamond (or twobaseless triangles attached) to the left side of the rock. If you take two triangles and put them side by side face up, you get the cuneiform corresponding to the phoneme "Eh". Ehyeh is protoSemitic for "I am" later it becomes either "I am" or "I will be", according to context. Hence Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh being "I Am what/who/that I Will Be" now even though it was originally translated 'I am what/who/that I am.'
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    #28392360 - 07/11/23 11:31 AM (6 months, 14 days ago)

Interesting.

I'm willing to take it at face value that this phenomenon is occuring as described, and that it's not some sort of trick laser or something.

I watched the first video, didn't make it through all the comments hah, apologies if this has been asked but...

How do we know its a "code"?

Like, is the symbology familiar? Decipherable? Literal numbers or?

In the video he said "I can read it" but he didn't share anything that he read. Could you extract any information from this code when you tried it?


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Svetaketu]
    #28392382 - 07/11/23 11:59 AM (6 months, 14 days ago)

I don't think he said he can read it? What time in the video does he say that?

The term "code" is probably a colloquial expression for the phenomena described. It's "code" in the sense that it appears to be an organized sequence of symbols, purposely injected into these spaces. It's not HTML or something like that.

Certain symbols resemble certain language/writing systems humans have used. Similar "code" has been referenced in hundreds of past trip reports. Others refer to it as symbols, language, glyphs, runes, "matrix code", "universal language", etc. In my opinion, it appears there are multiple different kinds of symbols trippers frequently report. The "code" the laser reveals is distinct from many of the more commonly reported, i.e., I personally don't think they resemble Mayan/Aztec tribal glyphs.

During my research of this phenomena, one recurring theme I've noticed is the tripper's understanding/belief that these symbols are conveying/carrying information. Many, many people report the feeling of familiarity with the symbols, as well as this perceived expectation of being able to "decode" or "understand" them (some involve entities trying to get them to understand them).

Many people use terminology indicating some sort of connection between their mind/brain and these symbols, such as "downloading" the information or "computing" the symbols into an understanding.

My 5g trip resulted in my entire vision being replaced with a grid of alien glyphs that were constantly shifting and mutating. I was being reprogrammed by some other intelligence. It was incredibly intense. - comment on reddit from 8 years ago

Other frequently used phrasing indicates a belief that the symbols seem to represent our "true reality" or at least play a significant role in its construction. It's very interesting. Here's a very recent report with people observing many of these experiences. I've also recently been hipped to P.K. Dick's VALIS experience, too. The similarities in his "delusions" and this discovery seem extremely close, although I've only read the plot summaries.

If you dig online, you can find specifics on exactly how the characters look and behave. For the sake of getting folks to try the experience without prior knowledge, I'm omitting any details like that in my posts. Dan, the man behind the discovery, is still in the process of putting together true, double-blind studies. I kindly request that should you happen to find specifics on the code, you also don't introduce them to the thread (even with spoiler tags). Thanks, pal.

Give the thread a skim sometime. It's probably decent bathroom reading material.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28392383 - 07/11/23 12:00 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

Less convincing, more sending lasers.


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    #28392397 - 07/11/23 12:17 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

Go fuck yourself. Build your own. I've typed out step-by-step instructions and linked every needed component on Amazon. My extra lasers are spoken for and the next few I build will go to those who aren't demanding I mail them free shit like their servant.


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    #28392408 - 07/11/23 12:28 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

He didn't really focus on it, he just mentioned it in passing around 26:33. Looks like a live recording of him using the laser and DMT, so I don't know how seriously he meant it.

I'll try to dig around a bit. I'm curious if these are similar-ish symbols that everyone is seeing, or if two people could draw their symbols and get the exact same sequence. IMO calling it a code is a bit overzealous, might turn off some serious scientists.

I think the simulation hypothesis is a bit of a stretch, but any repeatable psychedelic phenomenon is definitely worth a look.

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28392410 - 07/11/23 12:31 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

The video was interesting but in the comments the guy admitted that there's "too much going on" with what people see, so it's impossible for people to write down what they actually see, and therefore impossible to validate if more people can see the same things within the experiment. Which totally goes against the scientific method IMO.

Sounds convincing, but based on this I think it's bogus.


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    #28392422 - 07/11/23 12:42 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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In the video he said "I can read it" but he didn't share anything that he read. Could you extract any information from this code when you tried it


if it's what I think he is talking about then it is something you could decipher yes. Familiarizing yourself with cuneiform and Egyptian hieroglyphs and Greek alphabet is the fastest way to be able to do it 'intuitively'- the way the shapes of letters transformer over time is no accident, lasercode or not laser code....

Take a line and squiggles. See how many different ways you can arrange them. English alphabet is presently the most effective rapid/on-the-fly 'lossless information reallocator'.

I would guess most new symbols show up in the context of physics and math but it's interesting the note the recent explosion in neography, simply making up symbols for the heck of it.


He doesn't want to say what the code says because it would set anyone up for preconceived biases that would take away the weight of the evidence. I highly recommend nobody post any attempts at deciphering until more a lot independent verification has been done.

My suspicion is that it is mostly going to prove to be the sort of the thing that is a gimmick to know. In the same way that knowing the first 1,000 digits of pi is a gimmick. Knowing the first a million digits is a gimmick. And so forth. I could turn out to be wrong about that but.....

Why call it code?

Until the word is made flesh
You'd better ask Metatron


Those flowers that withered away
In the pages of your book
For one day
They won't block your route
In the dead plot
You dream in
Ten go away
Ten born of pray
Ten go away

Folding wormholes
My time is riding
In the alphabet
My time is
Writing on the wall





Amputechture came
Philistine praise
Bottomless pit of empty names
Incarcerated habits poured from the palms
Severing the breast
Dancing on his arms


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Glossolalia coats my skin
Glycerin and turbulence
Stuffed the voice inside of God
Mirrors to the animals
Glossolalia coats my skin
Glycerin and turbulence
Stuffed the voice inside of God
Mirrors to the animals
Then so long
Dear mnemonic
Assume the form you've given me
And I'll spill
Now hold on
Just hold my hand
Say that they made you but
You brought your own leash
Tell me no more, no
Tell me no more
No-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-ah
Outside
By the drift
You read my will
Of thread and itch
Failure to comply
As failure to decease
And still you won't know
Everything
I've built the fall




Quote:


I am the omega, pgLang, Rollie gang, SIE
Don't you address me unless it's with four letters




Quote:

I love when you count me out (wah, woo, wah, woo, wah)
My name is in your mouth, shoo, shoo




Quote:

Anytime I couldn't find God,
I still could find myself through a song




Quote:

Some things I can't forget
Lord knows, I've tried my best
You said it's not my best
I came up out my flesh
Some things I must confess (ayy, ayy) (and I'm trippin' and fallin')




Quote:


I am not for the faint of heart
My genetic build can build multi-universes, the man of God
Playin' "Baby Shark" with my daughter
Watchin' for sharks outside at the same time
Life as a protective father, I'd kill for her
My son Enoch is the part two
When I expire, my children'll make higher valleys
In this present moment, I saw that through




Quote:

ooh, uh
(Ooh, ooh, tee-vah) ooh, ha
(Ooh, ooh, tee-vah) ha, ha, ha
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yee
Enoch, your father's just detoxed, my callin' is right on time
Transformation, I must had a thousand lives and like three thousand wives
You should know that I'm slightly off, fightin' off demons that been outside
Better known as myself, I'm a demigod
Every thought is creative, sometimes I'm afraid of my open mind
Shit on my mind and it's heavy
Tell you in pieces 'cause it's way too heavy
My diamonds, the choker is heavy
More life to give on demand, are you ready?
Who keep 'em honest like us?
Who in alignment like us?
Who gotta heal 'em all? Us (Us)
When there's no one to call
Don't need no conversation (ooh, ooh, tee-vah)
If it ain't about the business, shut the door now (ooh, ooh, tee-vah)
Bitch', it's a celebration (ooh, ooh, tee-vah)
And if this shit ain't bussin', what's it for now? (Ooh, ooh, tee-vah)




I will leave you these. Sorry for the mess, I was ina hurry when I made them (a couple days before seeing this thread actually). They may have nothing to do with the phenomenon question but it would surprise me.




If you wanna call it code it's been staring you in face the entire time: ∿



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    #28392423 - 07/11/23 12:44 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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Svetaketu said:
He didn't really focus on it, he just mentioned it in passing around 26:33. Looks like a live recording of him using the laser and DMT, so I don't know how seriously he meant it.

I'll try to dig around a bit. I'm curious if these are similar-ish symbols that everyone is seeing, or if two people could draw their symbols and get the exact same sequence. IMO calling it a code is a bit overzealous, might turn off some serious scientists.

I think the simulation hypothesis is a bit of a stretch, but any repeatable psychedelic phenomenon is definitely worth a look.

Got it, no spoilers :strokebeard:



Go ahead and draw whatever symbols you know are already well documented. Go ahead and make up your own. For now please to not try sharing any representations of any new symbols you may see while attempting this. maps of old symbols are fine


I am not worried anything horrible would happen but it would ruin the fun. If anything it convinces me all the more to stick with a Buddhist or Taoist philosophy of behavior


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    #28392429 - 07/11/23 12:53 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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I'm curious if these are similar-ish symbols that everyone is seeing




Everyone sees the same kind of symbols within the laser. You can't guarantee you're ever seeing what anyone else is, obviously, but that goes for everything we see. But ignoring that kind of pedantry, yes, people are seeing the same symbols in the laser. Drawing the "same sequence" isn't possible since there's so much going on at once.

Imagine binary code scrolling past ultra-fast. Everyone would be able to confirm they're seeing the same kind of code by mentioning only 0's and 1's. But we can't read out and confirm a single sequence. Similarly, if you saw: "kjljkljkjkjljkjjjklkkjlljkjljk" scrolling past, you'd be able to confirm English letters of K, J, and L, but good luck confirming the same sequence. This doesn't invalidate its clear presence, though.

Quote:

He didn't really focus on it, he just mentioned it in passing around 26:33. Looks like a live recording of him using the laser and DMT, so I don't know how seriously he meant it.




He says, "So that information right there, that refraction, I can actually read the things in it. Whoa, 'read', that's a stretch."

He's not using the term "read" in a literal sense, hence the "that's a stretch" part of it.

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so it's impossible for people to write down what they actually see, and therefore impossible to validate if more people can see the same things within the experiment. Which totally goes against the scientific method IMO.




People can and have written down the symbols they see, but not a specific sequence of them because that part of the code isn't static. The current scientific method can't even get to this point because an altered state isn't considered reliable. This is what he's urging to be challenged or reconsidered. If that's not a possibility to the viewer, nothing in this experiment will register or matter to them.

Again, it is impossible to validate whether all of us are seeing the exact same thing ever. And that's in our sober, base reality. This is no different. Again, the binary code example would be enough to show we're all describing the same thing, no? A sequence that doesn't remain static long enough to verify a sequence of it doesn't invalidate the presence of it.

Regardless, the properties of the code are not something I've heard described anywhere else, either. The fact is, whatever the "code" may appear as to each individual, something is there. And it's definitely not the specks of light from the laser turning into the symbols.

And DMT is not required, it's just much, much easier. Mushrooms can reveal the code in the laser, too, but not as vividly.


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    #28392435 - 07/11/23 01:01 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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And it's definitely not the specks of light from the laser turning into the symbols.



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    #28392439 - 07/11/23 01:07 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

Well in the beginning he said it's "as real as any physical object". But physical objects aren't constantly moving and shifting so.. :shrug:


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    #28392443 - 07/11/23 01:09 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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Regardless, the properties of the code are not something I've heard described anywhere else, either. The fact is, whatever the "code" may appear as to each individual, something is there. And it's definitely not the specks of light from the laser turning into the symbols.





I have no doubt that the phenomenon is real, but what makes you so certain that it isn't just specks of light interacting with your eyes and brain? Isn't that a possibility?


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Well in the beginning he said it's "as real as any physical object". But physical objects aren't constantly moving and shifting so.. :shrug:



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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Svetaketu] * 2
    #28392466 - 07/11/23 01:34 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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Well in the beginning he said it's "as real as any physical object". But physical objects aren't constantly moving and shifting so.. :shrug:




If you flip the pages of a book, you're unlikely to recall any specifics. They're still real. But yes, they have unique properties that our "normal" objects don't. It's something you need to see for yourself, though.


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I have no doubt that the phenomenon is real, but what makes you so certain that it isn't just specks of light interacting with your eyes and brain? Isn't that a possibility?




I will concede that I'm not a scientist and this phenomena is definitely bigger than my paygrade. So don't take my certainty as some flex like I can't be proven wrong, haha. Technically everything I'm describing are specks of light interacting with my eyes/brain, obviously.

Hell, I couldn't scientifically explain the laser itself on any technical detail, sans weird DMT influence. It's light that's been amplified by a stimulated emission of radiation, of course (maybe they should come up with some sort of acronym to remember that easier). Regardless, I can't break down exactly how all of this is happening. Likewise, I'm not an expert on how we process visual stimuli, either. And I do consider this could be some sort of trickery we've yet to discover. I just don't think it fits.

Your brain will obviously generate visual irregularities in altered states (including sober states, such as sleep deprivation). With that being said, I'd expect to observe certain properties/behavior in the phenomena if the laser itself were responsible.

If the symbols/code are "generated" by your brain "transforming" the specks of light, what do you think would happen if you moved or tilted the laser? In this case, the symbols should move with it, correct? This is not observed in practice, though. Instead, they remain in place, but fade out once the laser moves from it. Simultaneously, though, new symbols are revealed where the laser projects into. It may be hard to imagine based on this description.

If you pointed a flashlight at your wall in the dark, you'd see a real object illuminated from the beam. If you slowly turn the flashlight, it'll equally reveal new objects while the previous fade out. This is how the laser is described as functioning with the code.

I will concede that I didn't play with the laser like this when I saw it, so I can't confirm myself. I did try and move it around for my friend, though, but I can't remember what he said when I did that. I actually think I might've only tried this initially when he noticed a specific property of the laser, but before he saw the code itself.

Cliff notes: the objects within the code behave independently from the specks of laser. It's like looking "through" the wall. Again, this is something you just kind of have to see for yourself to get.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28392484 - 07/11/23 01:49 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

but you know it's not code.
and this is not the matrix.
and there is no conspiracy.

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    #28392495 - 07/11/23 01:57 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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Regardless, the properties of the code are not something I've heard described anywhere else, either. The fact is, whatever the "code" may appear as to each individual, something is there. And it's definitely not the specks of light from the laser turning into the symbols.





I have no doubt that the phenomenon is real, but what makes you so certain that it isn't just specks of light interacting with your eyes and brain? Isn't that a possibility?



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H = proton
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N = neutron

G = Graviton
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You're talking about a correlation but I think you're implicitly assuming a directional arrow that is facing the only one way when it needs arrows pointing both ways


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    #28392499 - 07/11/23 01:58 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

greenfeldt,

I don't know that it's not code. I do know that people confidently explaining things they have no experience with aren't worth listening to, though. The other night you were also telling me women's breasts felt like bags of sand. The comment above is more of the same, I'm afraid.


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but you know it's not code.
and this is not the matrix.
and there is no conspiracy.

just drugs and fooling around.



Ah yes, its just fooling around with stuff life is made of. That's all.

Silly things and profound things are both cool. This will prove to be a gimmick imo like giving everyone a button that makes the same sequence of digits from an irrational pop into their mind if they press it at the same time. Neither will have a clue what the next digit without the transformer/formula. But who knows.... Most folks thought the same about any tech that transformed, the higher the amplitude the greater the doubt and seeming uselessness of


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    #28392513 - 07/11/23 02:09 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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greenfeldt,

I don't know that it's not code. I do know that people confidently explaining things they have no experience with aren't worth listening to, though. The other night you were also telling me women's breasts felt like bags of sand. The comment above is more of the same, I'm afraid.



that was someone else, and I do not appreciate your messing with my name/monniker.

I would have to say that it indicates a bad schoolyard bully nature. you may yet have to forgive yourself.

BTW how is your friend's laser damaged eye?


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    #28392525 - 07/11/23 02:18 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

I get you, I can understand that intuitively, there seems to be more to it than just the light + drugs.

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If the symbols/code are "generated" by your brain "transforming" the specks of light, what do you think would happen if you moved or tilted the laser? In this case, the symbols should move with it, correct? This is not observed in practice, though. Instead, they remain in place, but fade out once the laser moves from it. Simultaneously, though, new symbols are revealed where the laser projects into. It may be hard to imagine based on this description.





I think I'm picturing this properly? I'm not an expert in any of these fields either, but the physics of light are pretty wacky. My first thought is that it could be some kind of dim background light scattering caused by the laser hitting the surface; that way wherever you point the laser, the scattering would be more or less the same until you moved to a different surface entirely.

More tests needed lol. I wonder if different surfaces with different reflectivity/scattering  could make the symbols more or less defined.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28392559 - 07/11/23 02:37 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

It definitely could be something like that (or any number of things). To me, that'd be a really rad discovery by itself. I'm curious what you think if you give it a whirl.

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I wonder if different surfaces with different reflectivity/scattering  could make the symbols more or less defined.




Interestingly enough, they've observed this to be true. While the light needs to be diffracted (which the grating lens on the laser accomplishes), Dan has discovered that subsequently passing it through water gives the code a much more defined and crisp clarity. That's super wild to me, too. I think he's still experimenting with different mediums with varying refractive indexes to get the best result.


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that was someone else, and I do not appreciate your messing with my name/monniker.

I would have to say that it indicates a bad schoolyard bully nature. you may yet have to forgive yourself.

BTW how is your friend's laser damaged eye?




The "bags of sand" bit was a reference to a movie I believed most of us had seen. My apologies if the joke wasn't clear. I'm sorry if giving you a similar, but different screenname is distressing to you. As someone indifferent to ambiguities in online SNs, I guess I didn't consider it could be felt as bullying to you. That's not my intention. My most sincere apologies. I want this thread to continue as a safe space for you to chime in with how dumb I am at being fooled by such obvious effects.

My friend was not hurt by any laser. That was a joke, which I thought was fairly obvious. Rest assured, party people, I didn't spin a laser out of control, dangerously increase the beam's intensity (somehow), or let it shine into my friend's eyeballs.

In the event of this impossible scenario, I wouldn't let my blinded friend, writhing in agony, hop on my computer to type nonsense to all of you. I would've told that pussy to quit whining while quietly stealing the cash from his wallet, carefully replacing the bills with expired coupons or something. Can you imagine this dumbass trying to pay for the eye surgery he'll need with $5 off Fancy Feast? HA HAHA HA!

I was being facetious in response to vektor or whatever's idiotic post regarding laser safety. The worries I mocked were worth mocking. Maybe I am a bully.


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    #28392595 - 07/11/23 03:09 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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If anything it convinces me all the more to stick with a Buddhist or Taoist philosophy of behavior





Personally I’d throw a little Hinduism in for good measure

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    #28392644 - 07/11/23 04:19 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

Wait, no free shit? This thread got boring as fuck


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    #28392681 - 07/11/23 04:47 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

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If anything it convinces me all the more to stick with a Buddhist or Taoist philosophy of behavior





Personally I’d throw a little Hinduism in for good measure

May I ask which points convinced you?




I mean Hinduism is a fun mythos but Buddhism I treat as a method rather than a mythos. Like the difference between doing science and having faith in scientism.

I mean nothing in here really specifically convinced me, it had more to do with me connecting dots from semiotics/linguistics/philology on my own. See the red circle top left? There isn't one. There is no way to connote 'the one truth' or Uni-Verse. There is simply vartana, Truth.

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    #28392692 - 07/11/23 04:56 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

The following is not sound. I recommend you do not read it. I tried though, lol.



//Trimorphic Cosmology by morrowasted
// comments follow these

definitions:
° = Time units/bits
H =  °/2 // (Hydrogen / Photon)
Y = °°°°°// (Carbon / Graviton)
v= ε/4ψ°// v represents an electron or one half the nuclear weak force; see formula below to compute ε- it is equal to the same irrational 'number' as Euler's e. the easiest way to think about it is the way youd think about y from algebra.


f(θ,ε)  = λ // lambda produces a sinusoidal wavelength

ε = f(λ) lim([λ->∞] [H+{H/λ}^2]) // This uses standard formula for deriving eulers' irrational e, whose slope follows the increasing amplitude of the sinusoid waveform produced by... I think.

λ = lim(θ -> Ω) 3x^2 // Omega value corresponds to the end of the sinusoidal waveform. It could be a finite or infinite value, the latter of which remain hotly debated in theoretical mathematics.

//YHvvH = °° °°°  °°- spaces inserted for clarity that this is where I presume permutations occur, whether in the context of semiotics or organic chemistry. Seven dots and two spaces (72).

    if YHvvH = 72 then

Ω = f(Y+H+W+H'ψ) = 1^6 * 2^6 * 3^6 // Prime factorization of 15552'ψ


The transformer does seem to literally be a Prime Mover, as coined by Aquinas, and I definitely had that on my mind so I could be trying to shoehorn what I want to believe into a model I already suspect is / want to be the case, but it simultaneously makes sense out of a lot of mythos, including modern edge ones like quantum physics.


I probably shouldnt bother bc if there is one thing I'm more amateurish at than anything else it's theoretical math.

I want to point out that if all of the above checks out, it isnt that I found and copied it. I just so happened to have had papers laying out with my chronologically arranged symbol relation diagrams and the basic equations needed for calculus and trig on another paper. If anything they shoved themselves together when I looked between them


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Amputechture came
Philistine praise
Bottomless pit of empty names
Incarcerated habits poured from the palms
Severing the breast
Dancing on his arms...

Tomorrow we forget
'Cause now has never left
You gotta find my body
In the mechacontext
You give me a corpse
You live in it now
You're stir from a camp nourishment plows
You give me a corpse
You live in it now
You're stir from a camp nourishment plows
Please dismantle all these phantom limbs
It's the evidence of humans as ornaments...

This dirt is turning christ to make repent again
So I've heard
They're cutting all the youngest ones
Said this dirt is turning christ to make repent his lust
So I've heard that the puppet tugs its pull

I will scald supreme truth as it touches this house
I will scald supreme truth


It lacks a human pulse. //start counting
It lacks a human pulse
It lacks a human pulse
It lacks a human pulse
It lacks a human pulse
It lacks a human pulse
It lacks a human pulse-- don't know for sure now
It lacks a human pulse-- don't know for sure now
It lacks a human pulse-- ah, ah, ah
....
Ten go Eh Way
Ten born of pray
Ten go away
...


you'd better ask Metaton






The Mars Volta albums bedlam in Goliath and amputetecture are full of references to this automaton/transformer. He refers to it as Amputechture.

But to know Y(a), you've got to find me in the mechacontext by asking metatron.


Meter into matter.


10 go away at (0, e). 10 born of pray at (0, omega)...


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    #28392797 - 07/11/23 06:39 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

Thanks for clarifying! The Hinduism does add some character



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    #28392841 - 07/11/23 07:20 PM (6 months, 14 days ago)

You might say everything adds a character.



In relativity, matter tells space how to curve and space tells matter how to move. There is no present moment that causes the future to unfold.


Watch the video if you need to satiate your logos

This guy is basically just saying look it's all just photons and presence. I'm not going to ramble on but it seems to map. I'll try to shut up until I get the actual laser and DMT to try this out. 

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Toe to toe, back to back, let's go, my love; it's very late
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    #28400730 - 07/19/23 12:59 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

I watched parts of the video. Very interesting experiment! I would like to try it out sometime in the future.

Would it work with any color laser say green? Does it have to be a "+" sign shape?

To this, this doesnt prove that we live in a simulation but it does "prove" that reality is made of mathematics and perhaps this code is our visual interpretation of that hidden mathematic code within the Universe specifically light photons from a laser.

Very interesting stuff!


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    #28400747 - 07/19/23 01:18 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

The crosshair configuration does appear to be important if not crucial. the rest idk


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    #28400754 - 07/19/23 01:28 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

Perhaps the interference pattern of the two different directions of the laser is critical to seeing the code.

Imagine wearing polarized sunglasses during the experiment. :eek:


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    #28400764 - 07/19/23 01:39 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

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    #28400783 - 07/19/23 02:03 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

Theres a psychedelic EDM artist named LIGHTCODE. Does he know the secret of the laser light as well? :strokebeard:



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    #28400846 - 07/19/23 03:02 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

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What's really gonna boil your noodles this question:

Would this have worked 20 years ago?


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Once time machines go mainstream, we can answer that one!

Redgreenvines. Enjoy :cheers:


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    #28401258 - 07/19/23 11:24 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

DMT + Laser = hallucations.

DMT = hallucations.


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    #28401264 - 07/19/23 11:34 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

More dismissive than I would have expected from you tbh
I'm not in a hurry but I don't think this can simply be laughed off as easily as other claims given parametrization


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    #28401305 - 07/20/23 12:50 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

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DMT + Laser = hallucations.

DMT = hallucations.




DMT + Laser = Specific hallucinations

DMT = Unpredictable hallucinations

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    #28401314 - 07/20/23 01:14 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

I think i figured it out. What if DMT allows the Human mind to precieve Quantum Information.

Lasers are used in Quantum Physics a lot. For example, the famous double-slit experience.

Since lasers produce quantum effects with light, a Human brain high on DMT is able to "see" that Quantum information, which appears as this "light code".

So if this experiment was done with something else quantum-related. For example, watching a live nuclear blast at a safe distance or perhaps watching radioactive material decaying, you should be able to see a similar code.

This could also explain why some people see UFOs on DMT: maybe the UFOs are not decloaking at all but instead can only be visible by 1 of two methods: being on DMT where a person can precieve Quantum Information or a technological device that can interpret quantum information.

So when a person breaksthru on DMT, perhaps they are accessing this Quantum Information at very high speeds and this information exists all around us all the time. I feel like the movies Dr. Strange and Antman describes this DMT/Mushroom Quantum Realm very well.

If Quantum Scientists knew about this connection, if could potentially revolutionize the entire science. Perhaps they do and its a big secret. Super fascinating stuff.


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28401321 - 07/20/23 01:40 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

Idk what you mean by 'quantum information'

Information about quanta?


Something sublimely strange is the case. That's all I truly know


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    #28401327 - 07/20/23 01:54 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

I have experienced the viewing or unlocking of past memories but viewing them as an observer like you describe here:

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the code is displayed on our visual field juxtaposed atop "external" reality,
interestingly enough I found that you can unlock or manipulate it through body posture and tactile sensation on the skin.  Last time I did that I was able to recall memories which I had forgotten about completely, as if they were locked away and forgotten, but now available.  It was unbelievable.  I remember thinking to myself, LUL - this is impossible - as I do it. Got to love psilocybin.  It then became easy to see more than one memory at once, something that once again is to my understanding until then an impossible feat.
As if one was an invisible observer, disembodied, yet the driver of this thing within a sphere composed of light like neural networks that reflect all my experience and memory and things that had passed and things that were becoming from the trace or wake of what I was, something I can only call the aggregates of "me".





But the way I would describe it is the tesseract in Interstellar. I was seeing long beams of lights some going horizontal and some vertical that make an almost multi-dimensional 3-d box that was made of these dancing sheets of light. I was able to manipulate and travel through my experiences throughout by shifting my body and looking into the sheets of light. I was tripping with a blindfold and using my own binaural beats I created. I have since tried to recreate it but have trouble. I have never seen this code describe in the post before though.


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28401344 - 07/20/23 02:42 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

Here's a little bit about Quantum Information:

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Quantum information science aims to explore the nature of information at the quantum level, a world in which bits can be both zero and one at the same time and perfect copying is impossible.



https://sitp.stanford.edu/research/quantum-information

But yeah, as you said, quantum information is information about/within quantum effects, particles and phenomena. Its theorized in quantum physics that quantum information is contained in all quantum-based particles such as photons for example and this information can be theoretically observed/extracted.

Its very similar to computer code, which all software is written in. We see/interact with the software, but behind the software is computer code. This concept is applied to quantum mechanics:

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When two good things get together, they can create something even better. That’s the case with quantum information—the marriage of quantum physics and computing theory. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has contributed to much of its history and is helping to shape its future.



https://www.nist.gov/content/history-and-future-quantum-information

So when you smoke DMT and look at something quantum, such as a Laser Pattern, perhaps you are observing the quantum information (lightcode) that "runs" or describes the laser light particles interpreted by Human consciousness on DMT.


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28401384 - 07/20/23 04:34 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

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So when you smoke DMT and look at something quantum, such as a Laser Pattern, perhaps you are observing the quantum information (lightcode) that "runs" or describes the laser light particles interpreted by Human consciousness on DMT.




So DMT enables your eyes to view the quantum information describing point particles. That is, you can read the code on something that has no measurable size.

Either DMT enables super powers or you are high, what is more likely.


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    #28401531 - 07/20/23 07:58 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

when psychonauts start speaking in terms of Quantum,
you can be sure that a natural internal word hash algorithm has been triggered.

so few scientists have a good grasp of the principles of sub-atomic geometry and physics that the likelihood of any psychonauts observing evidence of these pursuits is vanishingly small; possibly smaller than a quantum bubble in a glass of water; but given the popularity of the word Quantum, and the sense of it being smaller than the indivisible atom (idea), and given that it must be utterly ubiquitous, the attraction to hitch any feeling or vision to a "quantum" event or passage is completely understandable.


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    #28402029 - 07/20/23 06:06 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

I've noticed a recent explosion in this style of art



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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28402033 - 07/20/23 06:11 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

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when psychonauts start speaking in terms of Quantum,
you can be sure that a natural internal word hash algorithm has been triggered.


I don't think that's fair. You've admitted on multiple occasions that you don't even bother trying to think about anything at quantum levels. If you're trying to suggest that anybody who hasn't received a formal education in quantum mechanics can't understand it well enough to have breakthrough ideas I just think you're wrong. Ideas just kind of propagate through the memeosphere



I haven't taken any quantum physics classes but I am being truthful when I say that I'm personally acquainted with least two fluid dynamics physicists who have worked at Los Alamos and one of whom is now with MIT and the other something completely classified and neither one of them would scoff at the the idea in the video. I haven't spoken with either them in probably six months but it would surprise me if at least one of them hadn't already independently heard of/known about this video, as well as the phenomenon itself, if there is any ontology to it

Oppenheimer took it upon himself to translate the baghavad gita and clearly saw something deep in it that he drew from on multiple quoted and publicized occasions. Are you so certain that he wasn't a psychonaut of some kind? You don't even have to take drugs to be one technically. Not saying he didn't. A lot of people back then were taking drugs but just not thinking about it very much or talking about it very much for one reason or another: taboos, gave them an advantage, etc. I highly doubt that Hoffman accidentally discovered that LSD was psychoactive in the way that The story goes. The idea that he knew engine could do what ergine does to blood vessels but have no awareness of what else it can and has done is laughable


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    #28402107 - 07/20/23 07:24 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

You are right you do not need a higher education to understand some quantum mechanics. For instance the size of a light particle, a photon, something that can be described as massless. Could you please explain how the code that describes this point particle can be larger than the object it describes.

To take this a step further. Photons that you think you are observing are not individual, how is the code you are observing not being obscured by the code of the photon next to it.

Of course a photon is just being used as an easy example to access here, feel free to replace it with any other quantum phenomena.


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    #28402170 - 07/20/23 08:14 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

For those with lasers and quantum curiosity I just watched this cool homemade laser double slit experiment



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    #28402247 - 07/20/23 09:13 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

@morrowasted please do speak with your close acquaintances,
do get back to us, thanks

@cubedguy, how do you think the lovely home made double slit experiment supports the OP fantasy?


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    #28402258 - 07/20/23 09:26 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

I don’t, just thought it was a cool experiment
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    #28402262 - 07/20/23 09:29 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

Combining the double-slit experiment with DMT could yield interesting results! :eek:


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    #28402279 - 07/20/23 09:51 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

Schrödinger's cat, but the cat is a person, and the poison is DMT.

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    #28402297 - 07/20/23 10:11 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

:mindblown:


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    #28403212 - 07/21/23 06:53 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

i love lamp


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    #28403383 - 07/21/23 10:40 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

what is lamp

and why are you sorry for loving it, or saying that you love it?


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    #28403498 - 07/22/23 03:06 AM (6 months, 3 days ago)

Technically, a psychedelic named LAMP is mentioned in Tihkal as one of the LSD analog. But surely he doesn't mean that.


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    #28403504 - 07/22/23 03:25 AM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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@morrowasted please do speak with your close acquaintances,
do get back to us, thanks




I said we were acquainted, not that we were close. I hung out with the one who is at MIT probably a dozen times before he moved- usually to party hard- and we've only spoken twice since, but I am asking him. The other individual has not responded to me for some time. I saw him personally in February because he came by to collect some books I had borrowed, but he indicated he was about to be moving and swiftly took off. Nobody I know knows where he went for sure, only one person slipped a guess. He was always staunchly anti-drug and openly Greek orthodox. The one at MIT once dosed the disappeared one with 2cb against his will, and the latter knew he'd been dosed right away- but the weird thing was, his explanation was that he was 'seeing the vision, but hadn't invoked it'- and he knew the former used 2cb everyday and evangelized it constantly. The person I would call the latter's closest friend 'slipped' that he'd returned to Los Alamos one night when drunk and on blow. I have messaged him but I doubt I'll get a response, particularly because it involves drugs. I don't think he would dismiss the idea that drugs and certain light configurations can reveal otherwise unseeable but ontological phenomena, just as telescopes and microscopes do. He has the look of an Oppenheimer about his eyes.



Two physicists who have never seen a black whole may agree about its qualia on the basis of shared abstractions

It's altogether different if two people who have never met or collaborated experience the same qualitative sensory experience at the same time under a given set of conditions, and particularly if they can do so again and again



I once watched the guy at MIT do 50mg of 2cb, blast russian hardstyle, and churn out a program that models pipeline material degradation in like 30 minutes. He is EXACTLY the kind of person who would want to try this ASAP.




I am not convinced that this legitimate by any means. But I'm not convinced that special relativity is, either.....


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28403553 - 07/22/23 06:02 AM (6 months, 3 days ago)

thanks for the honesty, I was sure you had access to these dudes or would not have suggested that they would back you up.

how do you feel about relaying what you are not sure about while making it seem you are very plugged into the source?


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    #28403802 - 07/22/23 11:45 AM (6 months, 3 days ago)

I don't know what you mean by plugged into a source


I know that I found this video months back on Reddit/r/DMT around the same time the original poster found it and that at that time I had had a series of experiences where I felt compelled to jot down a set of symbols that are not part of our alphabet for no obvious reason. I know that there is a growing population of neographers on Reddit (/r/neography), but the reason for it eludes me- why are thousands of people making up new symbol sets? They're not just pretty pictures either. The people classify them according to the kind of symbol sets that they are: logogramic, alphasyllabic, Abjad, Abugida. The timing of Lightcode, mentioned by LC  producing all of the videos, matches up pretty closely.

I get that styles of arts trend overtime and that much of the creative process just involves borrowing and rearranging things you've already seen.

I guess I would chalk up my openmindedness mostly to a single experience I had on dmt. If you go back through the years in my post history I had long been the kind of person who would just cynically dismiss any claims that psychedelic drugs did anything other than inject a bunch of noise into or scramble information the brain is processing. And it seems that they do do that.


I used DMT probably a hundred times before I had my weird experience- which happened maybe a few weeks before I found the original video from the OP, coincidentally. The major difference on that occasion was that I was in fact holding up light filaments in between my eyes and the flat surface of my ceiling. I had a unique visual experience- never had it before or since. it was like I could frame part of my vision with the light filaments and whatever was inside of the frame BEHIND MY CEILING FAN on the ceiling was... Well, light-code like. It wasn't just shifting colorful fractal geometry.


Anyway I'm really not in the mood to do DMT right now so my plan on testing this is on hold for the moment. It makes me into a genuine space cadet


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28403890 - 07/22/23 01:17 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

Amazing! So u held an old filament light bulb to your eyes while on DMT and saw a similar light code? :eek:


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    #28403952 - 07/22/23 02:02 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

I think when it comes to Synchronicity, or things happening all around the world at the same time (a la 100th monkey - critical mental activation theory) we have to be somewhat open minded, but not so open minded that our brains fall out of our heads.

Often things happen when they can no longer not happen, when what they were components of before releases them as they complete their gestations and plop out into being. Certainly with technology several discoveries seemed to emerge remotely at very similar times - like photography, like radio, electricity and quantum mechanics...

I have recently become quite interested in cuneiform - the Sumerian writing from 5000+ years ago - which became an inter-lingual script that subsequently led to more recognizable hieroglyphics as well as the more flexible phonetic alphabets (eg hebrew and greek).

Cuneiform as you might remember was made using triangular sticks pressed into wet clay.



I could say that I got into it inspired by this code cognizant thread, but no, it is because I am trying to visualize what it might have felt like to live in a city during the bronze age after eons of living in the stone age. But as I have been doing this investigation on and off for years, it just so happens that this thread about a mysterious script has come to light at this time and commenting is ongoing.

This may well be enough to let it fall into the synchronicity category, the fabled morphic resonance of things with similarity having a part to play in their creation or their coming together or becoming associated...

I probably should rewrite my brain theory stuff in cuneiform to give it a bit more of a pranamatic energy dimension, and some glistening laser polish.


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    #28404141 - 07/22/23 04:11 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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Often things happen when they can no longer not happen, when what they were components of before releases them as they complete their gestations and plop out into being. Certainly with technology several discoveries seemed to emerge remotely at very similar times - like photography, like radio, electricity and quantum mechanics...





Agreed. When things are ready or needing to be expressed they will be expressed through someone or something. So let’s see who catches and rides the wave in first 🏄  cowabunga 🤙


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    #28404149 - 07/22/23 04:15 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

I've gotten very interested in cuneiform and hieroglyphs (and old writing systems and phonology in general) recently as well but you seem quite certain that hieroglyphs descend from cuneiform and I don't see the evidence. Greek is a useful reference point because the symbols haven't changed very much in a long time

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The Egyptians were once thought to have got the idea of writing from the Sumarians, but their system is now generally believed to have emerged independently, although the details of its origins remain mysterious.



A while back I tried mapping out historical relationships between phonemes and symbols. Some of it is conjecture but most of it is just me looking things up. It doesn't hurt that I had to learn the international phonetic alphabet in linguistics


You can actually chart a progression of vowel usage from the front of the mouth to the back of the mouth over time the same way you can predict progression of consonant use in human infants/toddlers. The scripts originally didn't have any symbols for vowels and you just kind of defaulted to whatever the culturally normal vowel was. And if you're familiar with babies you know that that sound is somewhere between the long a and the long e. Thus you ended up with eL and al respectively being the word for gods between promotosemitic and proto Ugaritic, which was essentially just another way of saying 'multiple things', since the gods were simply all the things around them (in animism). You see aniconism emerge from Ugarit which makes sense given the script they used, which was great for keeping ledgers but not for writing love letters. In Egypt the name of the prototype god is usually spelled Ra but Re is just as accurate, the specificity of the vowel sound legitimately 'didnt matter' as much. Much the oldest hieroglyphic texts amount to love letters- often straight up 'sexts'- from women of the court, to various gods.

One interesting thing about Greek is that they often just put the n sound next to the t sound in order to make what we would collapse into the d sound.

Thus anvtios -> adios (goodbye)


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    #28404442 - 07/22/23 08:24 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

It seems to me that in Greek- Mycenaean, really- you see a coalescing of the cuneiform script with the curved logograms of ice age Europe. As you go south from Ugarit you start seeing curves appear in some of the words. These people likely developed systems independently. The cuneiform is interesting because it is systemized by simply lines and triangles and that seem at least a bit present in subsequent and surrounding scripts, but mostly if not only for quantity notation, but, at least with respect the oldest hieroglyphs, I see little to no evidence of cuneiform influence.

Aramaic and Mycenaean Greek are where you start seeing the clear very evidence of intermingling and symbol borrowing/streamlining


The proto Indo-Aryan script is fascinating because it seems to be the first systematized language that isn't imbued with grammatical gender (nouns being either masc or feminine, a remnant of the fact that originally the name for a god and the the thing they were 'in charge of' were the same; IE aten is the sun and the sun is literally the god.

Ζεύς and θεός (the word used for god the father in the Greek new testament) sound almost just alike. Abstraction of language took a huge leap forward around the time leading up to Plato but you can see that the 'neologisms' are usually hardly neologisms at all so much as SLIGHT variations on words. The difference showed up in the oral tradition first, so you basically had someone be like you've heard of Zeus, but really his name is Theos. This maps onto the story of Moses at mount horeb when God says his name is 'aeY' rather than 'aeL'. At the same time this 'changes' the word for, in essence, 'to be' from AeLae to AeYae. The change in letter amounts to depluralizing the word. The doubling is just an artifsct of the lack of vowel specificity/importance in those PIE descended languages prior to Mycenaean, in the same way when the Japanese borrow works in English they always append a vowel because Japanese words never end in consonants. You still see this 'Yae' meaning to be in the Spanish adverb 'ya' via Latin. But the OG proto-indo-european was just 'ye'. It didn't have 'a symbol', that varied, but that was the phonology.

Linear A is what we call the language of the Minoans and Mycenaean and it has Semitic (it Aramaic/Hebrew) roots. Mycenaean and then classical Greek followed

Really seems to me all cultures independently developed logograms relevant to their surroundings but trade and exposure to new things necessitated creation and use of increasingly abstract symbol sets. Cuneiform actually seems to have had little influence at all on today's writing systems, though its influence on numeral systems of the time seems obvious

In Latin vowel notation became strictly systematized but in English we've sort of reverted back to phonological system where we 'default to the schwa', and the other vowel sounds matter but you arent consistently notated


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    #28404532 - 07/22/23 09:45 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

Multi-cultural hypercode :mindblown:


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    #28404598 - 07/22/23 10:43 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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Multi-cultural hypercode :mindblown:




Quote by Franz Kafka: “All language is but a poor translation.”

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Philology within Bacon’s Program for the Reform of Learning
Bacon further connected his comparatist analyses to the reform of learning: the fact that, as Bacon noted further, each idiom has its own distinctive characteristics such as vocabulary, rhythmic and musical features, makes literal translations impossible. Therefore, translators like Michael Scot and Gerard of Cremona who, according to Bacon, in this sense were not absolutely proficient in the languages they translated from, corrupted important texts like Aristotle’s works as well as the Paris Vulgate (OT, ch. xxv, 91). Hence, what is needed are translators who were proficient enough in both scientific and linguistic skills – knowing the diversities of languages, their relationships, and the origins of words – to provide scholars with translations that meet scientific and linguistic standards. Thus, etymology was another important element in a diachronic analysis of languages, and Bacon sought to help his contemporaries, for example in regard to the pronunciation of foreign words, by providing them with lists of Hebrew and Greek words which had become Latin words (OGG, 133ff.).




Trimorphic Protennoia:
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Then the Son who is perfect in every respect - that is, the Word who originated through that Voice; who proceeded from the height; who has within him the Name; who is a Light - he (the Son) revealed the everlasting things and all the unknowns were known. And those things difficult to interpret and secret, he revealed, and as for those who dwell in Silence with the First Thought, he preached to them. And he revealed himself to those who dwell in darkness, and he showed himself to those who dwell in the abyss, and to those who dwell in the hidden treasuries he told ineffable mysteries, and he taught unrepeatable doctrines to all those who became Sons of the Light .

Now the Voice that originated from my Thought exists as three permanences: the Father, the Mother, the Son. Existing perceptibly as Speech, it (Voice) has within it a Word endowed with every <glory>, and it has three masculinities, three powers, and three names. [i]They exist in the manner of Three ¨ ¨ ¨ – which are quadrangles – secretly within a silence Of the Ineffable One...

MA MO O O O EIA EI ON EI!.
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They were the first to appear, exalted in their thought, and each Aeon gave myriads of glories within great untraceable lights and they all together blessed the Perfect Son, the God who was begotten...

Then there came forth a word from the great Light Eleleth and said, "I am King! Who belongs to Chaos and who belongs to the underworld?" And at that instant his Light appeared radiant, endowed with the Epinoia. The Powers of the Powers did not entreat him and likewise immediately there appeared the great Demon who rules over the lowest part of the underworld and Chaos. He has neither form nor perfection, but on the contrary possesses the form of the glory of those begotten in the darkness. Now he is called "Saklas," that is, "Samael," "Yaltabaoth," he who had taken power, who had snatched it away from the innocent one (Sophia); who had earlier overpowered her who is the Light's Epinoia (Sophia) who had descended, her from whom he (Yaltabaoth) had come forth originally...

Did we not hear you say,  'I am God [and I am] your Father 44  and it is I who [begot] you and there is no [other] beside me'? Now behold, there has appeared [a] Voice belonging to that invisible Speech of [the Aeon] (and) which we know not.

So now, O Sons of the Thought, listen to me, to the Speech of the Mother of your mercy, for you have become worthy of the mystery hidden from (the beginning of) the Aeons, so that [you might receive] it. And the consummation of this [particular] Aeon [and] of the evil life [has approached and there dawns 45 the] beginning of the Aeon to come] which [has no change forever]...


I am [the Word] who dwells [in the] ineffable [Voice].
I dwell in undefiled [Light]


Now behold [I will reveal] to you [my mysteries] since you are my fellow [brethren, and you shall] know them all [...]. 47 [...] [...] [...] [...] I [told all of them about my mysteries] that exist in [the incomprehensible], inexpressible [Aeons]. I taught [them the mysteries] through the [Voice that exists] within a perfect Intellect [and I] became a foundation for the All, and [I empowered] them.
The second time I came in the [Speech] of my Voice. I gave shape to those who [took] shape until their consummation.

am the Light that illumines the All. I am the Light that rejoices [in my] brethren, for I came down to the world [of] mortals on account of the Spirit that remains [in] that which [descended] (and) came forth [from] the innocent Sophia. I [came] and I delivered [...] and I [went] to 48 [...] [...] [...] [...] [...]






It's all in Plato, all in Plato! Bless me, what do they teach them in schools these days?
Digory Kirk (? I think. Too lazy to look up rn falling asleep)


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #28404826 - 07/23/23 05:17 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

In this book:

Title: Mesopotamia
Authors: Britannica Educational Publishing
Published: Jul 2012
Publisher: Britannica Educational Publishing
Languages: English
Responsible for the first writing system and home to elaborate kingdoms and societies, Mesopotamia has been aptly labeled as the birthplace of the world’s first advanced civilizations. Although much remains unknown about the life and structure of Mesopotamia, the writings and artifacts left behind have shed elucidating light on a number of its significant developments and technological advances. This absorbing volume explores Sumer, Babylon, and the other early settlements that flourished in the enchanting land between the Tigris and Euphrates.


It explicitly said:
"Cuneiform was not a language. It was, like Egyptian hieroglyphics and the Chinese system of ideographs, or ideograms, a picture-writing system that used symbols. As the symbols gained acceptance throughout the Middle East, they could be understood by all ethnic groups even though the groups spoke different languages and dialects."

since it predates Egyptian hieroglyphics, and was widely used beyond the Sumerian lands, I assumed that it inspired the subsequent Hieroglyphic scripts.

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    #28405263 - 07/23/23 01:14 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Hmmm


I'm looking into it some more.  Some of these transformations from Ugaritic cuneiform to Greek alphabet make sense,  but looking at the Greek alphabet it seems clear to me that the southern Semitic script which shows no obvious resemblance to the northern semitic or Ugaritic.




Lists of Ugaritic letters (abecedaria, singular abecedarium) have been found in two alphabetic orders: the "Northern Semitic order" more similar to the one found in Phoenician, Hebrew and Arabic (the earlier, so-called ʾabjadī order), and more distantly, the Greek and Latin alphabets; and the "Southern Semitic order" more similar to the one found in the South Arabian, and the Ge'ez alphabets. The Ugaritic (U) letters are given in cuneiform and transcription, as well as in their Arabic (A), Hebrew (H), and Syriac (S) cognates;[14] letters missing from Hebrew are left blank.

North Semitic

U: 𐎀 𐎁 𐎂 𐎃 𐎄 𐎅 𐎆 𐎇 𐎈 𐎉 𐎊 𐎋 𐎌 𐎍 𐎎 𐎏 𐎐 𐎑 𐎒 𐎓 𐎔 𐎕 𐎖 𐎗 𐎘 𐎙 𐎚 𐎛 𐎜 𐎝
U: ʾa b g ḫ d h w z ḥ ṭ y k š l m ḏ n ẓ s ʿ p ṣ q r ṯ ġ t ʾi ʾu s2
A: أ ب ج خ د ه و ز ح ط ي ك ش ل م ذ ن ظ س ع ف ص ق ر ث غ ت ئ ؤ
H: א ב ג ד ה ו ז ח ט י כ שׁ ל מ נ ס ע פ צ ק ר ת
S: ܐ ܒ ܓ ܕ ܗ ܘ ܙ ܚ ܛ ܝ ܟ ܫ ܠ ܡ ܢ ܣ ܥ ܦ ܨ ܩ ܪ ܬ
South Semitic

U: 𐎅 𐎍 𐎈 𐎎 𐎖 𐎆 𐎌 𐎗 𐎚 𐎒 𐎋 𐎐 𐎃 𐎁 𐎔 𐎀 𐎓 𐎑 𐎂 𐎄 𐎙 𐎉 𐎇 𐎏 𐎊 𐎘 𐎕 [ 𐎛 𐎜 𐎝 ]
U: h l ḥ m q w š r t s k n ḫ b ś p ʾa ʿ ẓ g d ġ ṭ z ḏ y ṯ ṣ [ ʾi ʾu s2 ]
A: ه ل ح م ق و ش ر ت س ك ن خ ب ف أ ع ظ ج د غ ط ز ذ ي ث ص [ ئ ؤ ]
H: ה ל ח מ ק ו שׁ ר ת ס כ נ ב פ א ע ג ד ט ז י צ [ ]
S: ܗ ܠ ܚ ܡ ܩ ܘ ܫ ܪ ܬ ܣ ܟ ܢ ܒ ܦ ܐ ܥ


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    #28405327 - 07/23/23 03:07 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Idk to what extent this is relevant but the mention of priming and 'invisible pictures' seems to have some relevance. At first I was going to post it in your other thread but I decided to put it here instead. This is from 2020 though



https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31896031/

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It is debated whether the meaning of invisible pictures can be processed unconsciously. We tested whether pictures of animals or objects presented under backward masking or continuous flash suppression could prime the subsequent categorization of target words into animal or non-animal. In Experiment 1, the backward masking part failed to replicate the priming effect reported in two previous studies, despite sufficient statistical power (N = 59). Similarly, the continuous flash suppression part provided no evidence for a priming effect. In Experiment 2 (N = 65) we shortened the prime-target SOA from 290 ms to 90 ms, but again failed to obtain unconscious semantic priming under backward masking. Thus, our study did not provide evidence for unconscious semantic processing of pictures. These findings support the emerging view that unconscious processing is rather limited in scope




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Even when the images were presented for the briefest periods of time, and the participants failed to recognize their contents, their brain activity patterns contained enough information for the researchers to classify the images as animate versus inanimate objects. In other words, unconscious processing contained meaningful information about the images, which became accessible to higher-level stages of processing.

The authors say that their findings, which are published in the journal Nature Human Behavior, suggest that mental representations of conscious and unconscious information overlap in some regions of the visual pathway, and also that they suggest global workspace theories of consciousness need to be revised.






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    #28405340 - 07/23/23 03:28 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Here's a little bit about Quantum Information:

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Quantum information science aims to explore the nature of information at the quantum level, a world in which bits can be both zero and one at the same time and perfect copying is impossible.



https://sitp.stanford.edu/research/quantum-information

But yeah, as you said, quantum information is information about/within quantum effects, particles and phenomena. Its theorized in quantum physics that quantum information is contained in all quantum-based particles such as photons for example and this information can be theoretically observed/extracted.

Its very similar to computer code, which all software is written in. We see/interact with the software, but behind the software is computer code. This concept is applied to quantum mechanics:

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When two good things get together, they can create something even better. That’s the case with quantum information—the marriage of quantum physics and computing theory. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has contributed to much of its history and is helping to shape its future.



https://www.nist.gov/content/history-and-future-quantum-information

So when you smoke DMT and look at something quantum, such as a Laser Pattern, perhaps you are observing the quantum information (lightcode) that "runs" or describes the laser light particles interpreted by Human consciousness on DMT.





A central requirement for quantum-processing is quantum entanglement. It is argued that the enzyme catalyzed chemical reaction which breaks a pyrophosphate ion into two phosphate ions can quantum entangle pairs of qubits. Posner molecules, formed by binding such phosphate pairs with extracellular calcium ions, will inherit the nuclear spin entanglement.....

In the presence of lithium however the molecule can readily bind lithium in the relevant position ,rather than calcium, and time to decoherence is much greater. This potentially explains why lithium is affected in what we call bipolar disorder and why there is a relationship between how much naturally occurring lithium there is and how mentally stable the average citizen is. from an intuitive and speculative level it makes sense that lithium would be more stable than calcium simple because it is element 3 rather than 20. Calcium in that position is more readily displaced from the molecule


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321124861_Posner_molecules_From_atomic_structure_to_nuclear_spins

Originally it was thought that these molecules needed to exist in trimers for sustained coherence of entanglement but a new paper shows that the dimer configuration actually is more efficacious.


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A large and growing body of research shows that weak magnetic fields can significantly influence various
biological systems, including plants, animals, and humans. However, the underlying mechanisms behind
these phenomena remain elusive. It is remarkable that the magnetic energies implicated in these
effects are much smaller than thermal energies. Here we review these observations, of which there are
now hundreds, and we suggest that a viable explanation is provided by the radical pair mechanism,
which involves the quantum dynamics of the electron and nuclear spins of naturally occurring transient
radical molecules. While the radical pair mechanism has been studied in detail in the context of avian
magnetoreception, the studies reviewed here show that magnetosensitivity is widespread throughout
biology. We review magnetic field effects on various physiological functions, organizing them based on
the type of the applied magnetic fields, namely static, hypomagnetic, and oscillating magnetic fields, as
well as isotope effects. We then review the radical pair mechanism as a potential unifying model for the
described magnetic field effects, and we discuss plausible candidate molecules that might constitute
the radical pairs. We review recent studies proposing that the quantum nature of the radical pairs
provides promising explanations for xenon anesthesia, lithium effects on hyperactivity, magnetic field and
lithium effects on the circadian clock, and hypomagnetic field effects on neurogenesis and microtubule
assembly. We conclude by discussing future lines of investigation in this exciting new area of quantum
biology related to weak magnetic field effects.






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Fisahn has modelled the dynamics of clusters of water molecules within single plant cells and found that daily variations in gravity caused by the Moon’s orbit would be enough to cause a net loss or gain of water molecules from the cell.

“The volume of water molecules – even if it is in the nano-range – will respond to any tiny gravitational change,” he says. “As a consequence, there will be movement of water molecules through water channels, meaning water will move from inside the cell towards the outside or vice versa, depending on the direction of the gravitational force – and this could have an effect on the whole organism.



Even supposedly small changes in the gravitational pull of the moon on the Earth will warp the electromagnetic field significantly enough to alter membrane permeability.

So basically you seem to be saying that you are seeing some sort of representation of qubits. I am not sure.

The most significant Moon of this year will be on August 30th. Blue supermoon. If I'm working I'll let you know if the already unstable are acting even more unstable than normal. The fact that we're constantly bombarded with so many different kinds of electromagnetic fields now makes trying to study the effect of something like the Moon systematically extremely hard if not impossible to do. Maybe if you left a bunch of people inside of a faraday cage for a long stretch of time you could try to control but even then... Idk


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    #28405554 - 07/23/23 07:42 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

https://www.amazon.com/Empires-Word-Language-History-World/dp/0060935723

I need to reread this book. It's been like a decade. I just remembered that it was extremely scholastic and well-referenced and filled in a lot of the gaps that I'm having trouble piecing together from various semi-conflicting sources


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    #28405587 - 07/23/23 07:59 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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A central requirement for quantum-processing is quantum entanglement...




Oh come on, even if you are not into quantum mechanics, a cursory google search will show you this is not true. I think the AI implementation you are using is hallucinating.


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    #28405626 - 07/23/23 08:25 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Take it up with fisher. I didn't write it. It's from the article in the following link on Posner molecules and transmembrane entanglement. I don't know how you're interpreting the term processing but quantum computers do indeed entangle particles to generate qubits and the quantum computing race is to basically increase processing power via increasing qubits. Idk wtf you're reading but simply because a something happens at the quantum doesn't mean it makes sense to call it information processing. More accurate to say it has the potential to be become information


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    #28405652 - 07/23/23 08:41 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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morrowasted said: Idk wtf you're reading but simply because a something happens at the quantum doesn't mean it makes sense to call it information processing.




Quantum Phase Estimation: Estimates the phase of an eigenvector of a unitary operator without requiring entangled states.

Quantum Random Walks:Probability distributions on graphs and can be implemented without entanglement.

Quantum Search Algorithms: such as Grover's algorithm, do not need entanglement to achieve speedup over classical search.

Quantum Fourier Transform: This is a key component in many quantum algorithms, including Shor's algorithm, and can be performed without creating entangled states.

Quantum Simulations: In certain cases, quantum simulations of physical systems can be carried out without explicit entanglement.

Quantum Error Correction: Quantum error correction codes can protect quantum information from errors and noise without using entangled states.

Quantum Communication Protocols: Some quantum communication protocols, like quantum key distribution using the BB84 protocol, do not rely on entanglement.


Quantum Variational Algorithms: Variational quantum algorithms, such as the Variational Quantum Eigensolver (VQE), often use parameterized quantum circuits without explicit entanglement.

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    #28405660 - 07/23/23 08:51 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plimpton_322

Now this catches my attention. Pythagorean triples listed on a cuneiform tablet from over a millennium prior to greeks golden age. Maybe cuneiform was more determinative of Greek semiotics than I thought. I wasn't aware of this either:

Quote:

The popular modern image of Pythagoras is that of a master mathematician and scientist. The early evidence shows, however, that, while Pythagoras was famous in his own day and even 150 years later in the time of Plato and Aristotle, it was not mathematics or science upon which his fame rested. Pythagoras was famous (1) as an expert on the fate of the soul after death, who thought that the soul was immortal and went through a series of reincarnations; (2) as an expert on religious ritual; (3) as a wonder-worker who had a thigh of gold and who could be two places at the same time; (4) as the founder of a strict way of life that emphasized dietary restrictions, religious ritual and rigorous self discipline.



https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pythagoras/

I'm looking into modular arithmetic and addic numbers. Fascinating, especially the part about mod 3 addic mumbers. Sorry for tangents



Tesla was notoriously obsessed with "3" and obviously cognates of the christian Trinity exist throughout ancient mythos


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    #28405668 - 07/23/23 09:03 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Kiwi89 said:
Quote:

morrowasted said: Idk wtf you're reading but simply because a something happens at the quantum doesn't mean it makes sense to call it information processing.




Quantum Phase Estimation: Estimates the phase of an eigenvector of a unitary operator without requiring entangled states.

Quantum Random Walks:Probability distributions on graphs and can be implemented without entanglement.

Quantum Search Algorithms: such as Grover's algorithm, do not need entanglement to achieve speedup over classical search.

Quantum Fourier Transform: This is a key component in many quantum algorithms, including Shor's algorithm, and can be performed without creating entangled states.

Quantum Simulations: In certain cases, quantum simulations of physical systems can be carried out without explicit entanglement.

Quantum Error Correction: Quantum error correction codes can protect quantum information from errors and noise without using entangled states.

Quantum Communication Protocols: Some quantum communication protocols, like quantum key distribution using the BB84 protocol, do not rely on entanglement.


Quantum Variational Algorithms: Variational quantum algorithms, such as the Variational Quantum Eigensolver (VQE), often use parame.terized quantum circuits without explicit entanglement.

And the list goes on, but do not let that stop you.



Okay, legs say 'meaningful information'. If you want to describe any state change that happens as an information processing event you can do that but if so we need to disambiguate types of information. This is already done in information Theory (IE Shannon information). Terrence Deacon further characterizes meaningful information as Shannon information + boltzmann entropy and significant information as the prior to coupled with selective pressures in the Darwinian sense.




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    #28405669 - 07/23/23 09:04 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

An easy way to think about it is if you think of the entire cosmos as consisting of nothing but a string of threes than none of the threes contain information, no matter how many there are or how you rearrange them


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    #28405708 - 07/23/23 09:44 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Okay, legs say 'meaningful information'.




Oh really now, care to address why the implementation of any of the processes I posted would not yield meaningful information.


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    #28405734 - 07/23/23 09:57 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Kiwi89 said:
Quote:

morrowasted said:
Okay, legs say 'meaningful information'.




Oh really now, care to address why the implementation of any of the processes I posted would not yield meaningful information.



You just said implementation yourself


The important point is that entanglement seems like a very viable mechanism for coordinating activation of disparate neural networks. It's not just kooks talking about information processing in the brain involving molecules that generate cubits 



Anyway I would like to digress back into semiotics, which I feel more confident in my education in. So many gems in Plato, and there's a huge extra layer of depth when you can read it in the original Greek

Quote:


Socrates:
But if this is a battle of names, some of them asserting that they are like the truth, others contending that they are, how or by what criterion are we to decide between them? For there are no other names to which appeal can be made, but obviously recourse must be had to another standard which, without employing names, will make clear which of the two are right; and this must be a standard which shows the truth of things....


Soc. Let us suppose that to any extent you please you can learn things through the medium of names, and suppose also that you can learn them from the things themselves- which is likely to be the nobler and clearer way to learn of the image, whether the image and the truth of which the image is the expression have been rightly conceived, or to learn of the truth whether the truth and the image of it have been duly executed?

Crat. I should say that we must learn of the truth.

ΣΩ.
Soc. How real existence is to be studied or discovered is, I suspect, beyond you and me. But we may admit so much, that the knowledge of things is not to be derived from names. No; they must be studied and investigated in themselves.







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Ὅντινα μὲν τοίνυν τρόπον δεῖ μανθάνειν ἢ εὑρίσκειν τὰ ὄντα͵ μεῖζον ἴσως ἐστὶν ἐγνωκέναι ἢ κατ΄ ἐμὲ καὶ σέ· ἀγαπητὸν δὲ καὶ τοῦτο ὁμολογήσασθαι͵ ὅτι οὐκ ἐξ ὀνομάτων ἀλλὰ πολὺ μᾶλλον αὐτὰ ἐξ αὑτῶν καὶ μαθητέον καὶ ζητητέον ἢ ἐκ τῶν ὀνομάτων




Idk why some characters won't copy and paste but whatever here it is

His meno basically concludes that virtue and knowledge come from the gods. It's a really interesting dialog, super tedious at times, and I used to hate the conclusion, but I have a new appreciation for it


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    #28405751 - 07/23/23 10:09 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Kiwi89 said:
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morrowasted said:
Okay, legs say 'meaningful information'.




Oh really now, care to address why the implementation of any of the processes I posted would not yield meaningful information.



You just said implementation yourself


The important point is that entanglement seems like a very viable mechanism for coordinating activation of disparate neural networks. It's not just kooks talking about information processing in the brain involving molecules that generate cubits.





So you are unable to actually understand what you posted are you. You are just cobbling together words that sound nice to you.


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    #28405775 - 07/23/23 10:36 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Sorry are you a quantum physicist? Information theorist? Biosemitician? What do you do? If kind of looks like you just asked chapgpt whether quantum information requires engagement and copied and pasted it



I definitely don't understand what I read from physics as well as I would with more formal education, but at least I can say I pay attention. I listen to Sean carrols mindscape religiously. A lot of it goes over my head, but when I see something that triggers a kind of semantic bell ringing, I look into it, and I post what I find to see who can help me sort the baby from the bathwater. During covid and continuing today I constantly have to deal with people who don't understand medicine to the extent that they would if they had a formal education and a lot of them fall for whacko ideas, but some of them find their way to pretty simple truths about health and healing without apparently needing to understand all of the nitty gritty details.


You come across as a naysayer. I was one too until I realized how little is actually agreed upon in the sciences. Firstly and most saliently in medicine but also clearly in physics. I don't need to do calculations to see that physicists are obviously still either perplexed or intellectually compromised

I'm literally just posting a bunch of links to academic journal articles and texts and saying hey for anyone openmindendly considering whether there is anything to do this, some of the information here might be helpful or relevant to helping you parse the problem.


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    #28405836 - 07/24/23 12:15 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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morrowasted said: What do you do?




My day job is in a Science field, yes I have a university education in this particular field. I do not feel like doxing myself though. 



Quote:

morrowasted said: If kind of looks like you just asked chapgpt whether quantum information requires engagement and copied and pasted it




Using Chat GPT or even a simple google search would have helped you, just google your post to see.

Quote:

morrowasted said:A central requirement for quantum-processing





More worrying though is your reply's, which were meandering in a manner that was a deliberate attempt to not address the discussion but rather change the point of the post under discussion.


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    #28405973 - 07/24/23 05:27 AM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Glancing back at the enormous activity in this thread, I have to agree. nothing substantial is forthcoming, and most of it could be cast into the domain of meaningless code scrolling on my screen.

HAIL THE GREATLASER!

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    #28406081 - 07/24/23 08:47 AM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Svahaaa!

The other night while looking for some code whilst tipping,
I think I might've accidently broken a transwarp conduit or two.

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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28406349 - 07/24/23 11:26 AM (6 months, 1 day ago)

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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28407156 - 07/24/23 09:39 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:5de616e1-32c8-496b-808a-41c4c8100e6c/download_file%3Fsafe_filename%3DPlayer_2021_Spin_dynamics_calculations.pdf.pdf%26type_of_work%3DThesis&ved=2ahUKEwjLksbC76iAAxWJkokEHROGC3YQFnoECA4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Aghg3WSPRzTbrdjHlXeFr


big document about relevance of quantum effects like the one proposed by fisher and the followup researchers about specific molecules containing phosphorous and calcium. The reason for the effect is way above my head, stuff about geometry and electrodynamics, but followup team simulation confirmed the effect but only revised the size of the molecule cluster


By the way the laser guy finally returned my email saying he has been busy traveling but he only wants to talk through something like Whatsapp or telegram. I don't wanna download any new potentially sketchy apps. I don't have anything like Twitter or Instagram or TikTok even.

Tbh I've sort of lost interest anyway. If it turns out to be true I'll find out eventually. I told him he can contact me if he wants to but I won't be pursuing dialogue for now


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28407185 - 07/24/23 09:55 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

kinda boring. ok


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28407233 - 07/24/23 10:40 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

I think this is really interesting, on a  psychological level. The world, or the simulation if you want, is made up of stunning small objects which are used to create ever larger objects until we get to the visible world of the human eye. If the laser revels the code behind the simulation what level of the building blocks does it revel down to?

In the real world we can use  imaging tools to see ever smaller objects. If we use imaging techniques on the code will there be ever smaller code. Who will be the first to discover the code the makes up the code. 

What baffles me though, why hasn't there been photos published of the laser light on objects that display the code? That way we could just smoke our DMT and look at the photos and the code would then be reveled to everyone.


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: Kiwi89]
    #28407239 - 07/24/23 10:45 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

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What baffles me though, why hasn't there been photos published of the laser light on objects that display the code?


the answer given was he didn't want to ruin the potential for independent verification by 'priming' people to see a specific set of forms


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28407245 - 07/24/23 10:50 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Who knows maybe the zodiac killer drew it ages ago and just put the crosshair to the bottom right so it wasn't 'in the way' :tongue:


(Mostly) joking. Hope I'm wrong or else I fucked up his efforts lol. But I also hope I'm wrong cuz the deciphered message was boring



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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28407508 - 07/25/23 07:30 AM (6 months, 17 hours ago)



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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: Warrk]
    #28407618 - 07/25/23 09:00 AM (6 months, 15 hours ago)

Why do you think it's good?


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: Kiwi89] * 3
    #28411219 - 07/28/23 04:12 AM (5 months, 28 days ago)

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What baffles me though, why hasn't there been photos published of the laser light on objects that display the code? That way we could just smoke our DMT and look at the photos and the code would then be reveled to everyone.




You can apparently do this. It has been done. Sorry, this apparently has only been done once so IDK how reliable it is. Either way, the laser is easy af to build, so just build one, yo.

Anyway, the "objects" don't display the code, though. The laser "reveals" the code that the objects are comprised of.



Folks at home, feel free to try this. I don't know if this will work or you need the beam blown up in the image. I've never done this, only read that it works. But you won't be able to move the beam around and "reveal" the code within stuff (the effect that kind of separates this from 'durrr it's laser and drugs, durrr' stance).

Sorry for hiatus. Been offline for a bit. I been slacking and realized I didn't mail my extra laser the user I was supposed to. I've since built a few more. I have 4 extra now, I think. If anybody else wants one, send me a pre-paid mailer to your address and I'll get it in the mail ASAP when I mail the initial one to the far-too-patient Shroomery member.

TBA can still have his for free, though, if he wants to take me up on it. I think I'm retired entirely from DMT so I doubt I'll be making anymore lasers after this "batch" I just did.


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Glancing back at the enormous activity in this thread, I have to agree. nothing substantial is forthcoming, and most of it could be cast into the domain of meaningless code scrolling on my screen.

HAIL THE GREATLASER!

Svaha!




lol, what forthcoming information can there be when the active participants are dudes like you who are completely unwilling to try the experiment?

Logikal,

650nm is preferred wavelength. Different colors show different parts of the code, but 650nm is optimal as it shows the most. It needs to be diffracted though.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds]
    #28412860 - 07/29/23 12:39 PM (5 months, 27 days ago)



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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #28413054 - 07/29/23 04:37 PM (5 months, 27 days ago)



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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28414820 - 07/31/23 07:54 AM (5 months, 25 days ago)

"how can you have any pudding if you don't eat meat"?  :oldman:


In other news:


Mi mushies are seemingly coming along fairly well thus far...so...

:paranoid: Thinkin' lil ol' me *mita bee agate'n abagel' friggin' lazer, bebe!  Ho! :cheers:

(^ try and guess the accent the above was supposed to be in)


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #28414912 - 07/31/23 09:53 AM (5 months, 25 days ago)

I recognize the "Ho!"
Must be elvish, Santa's helpers to be precise, from the North Pole, "Ho, Ho, Ho, Merry Christmas!"


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28415375 - 07/31/23 05:48 PM (5 months, 25 days ago)

Right about now someone could shine a strong laser into my eyes. Perhaps a really powerful blue one for blue lux


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28415597 - 07/31/23 09:10 PM (5 months, 25 days ago)

Dude emailed me asking if I still wanna chat

I suppose I will. Just really wish I didn't have to download any of the specific apps he wants to use in order to do it


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28415811 - 08/01/23 05:31 AM (5 months, 24 days ago)

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I've noticed a recent explosion in this style of art




i should have known better but it looks like these are largely AI generated with post editing. I was messing around and it's easy to get it to generate similar kinds of symbols if you plug in math stuff and Greek symbols





Obv his are more refined. With some downloading, cropping, cutting, pasting, settings adjustment etc I can see much of it being done via AI alone. Either work took a lot of work on his part


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Re: DMT + Laser Pattern equals..... [Re: morrowasted]
    #28415816 - 08/01/23 05:49 AM (5 months, 24 days ago)

definitely alien telemetry


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: redgreenvines] * 2
    #28431047 - 08/12/23 02:30 PM (5 months, 13 days ago)



Useful video on likely origins of each letter in our alphabet


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #28431093 - 08/12/23 03:00 PM (5 months, 13 days ago)

I've actually watched this and a few of his other videos , this one is great :awesomenod:


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #28532454 - 11/07/23 12:57 AM (2 months, 19 days ago)



Adeptus is kind of a dumbass, IMO, but Dan explains the code pretty well. I've sent our a few lasers. A few have tried, some have seen it, a few others haven't, but we're troubleshooting. Mush is definitely harder so I expected this. Hoping I can get some of the people who've seen it to post about it at some point. And will continue trying to get the others to see it, nahmean.

I have another extra I don't mind sending to someone if they have DMT and are willing to try within a week or so of receipt.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: stareatclouds] * 1
    #28532494 - 11/07/23 03:12 AM (2 months, 19 days ago)

Thanks for bumping stareatclouds!

Heres the PM i sent ya about a month ago, posted here as evidence that this laser set-up does indeed create some kind of "Alien Code" effect:

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I finally tried it!

So last night, I didnt have a lot of success. Probably didnt smoke enough DMT.

But tonight, I tried it again, and it kinda worked!

I took two hits of my homemade, extracted DMT (not very pure) and turned on the laser in my dark room, about 95% dark.

I held the laser still with my right hand and looked across the beam on the bottom and on the left side. First I saw flashes of light, sorta like lighting. Then, a few minutes into the trip, I see motion. I see this "stamping" action of symbols across the left-bottom side of the red laser. Looked very similar to how The Matrix symbols fall down and highlight the middle symbol. But instead of all the code above it, I could only see the highlighting part in the middle. It was incredible! I couldnt make out the symbols but I definitely saw distant shapes separated by space and time.




I did the experiment again last Saturday with a laser holder I made for the laser. I did get a minor effect, not as strong as the previous experience I described above. I think I had a tolerance to DMT at that point. However, I did see some similar flashes of light within the laser beam.

I did shine it thru a glass of water, as suggested by stareatclouds. It didnt help the code show thru however it did create this trippy 3D-like effect inside the laser when I ran the laser across my clear glass cup filled with water. It looked similar to some DMT art Ive seen, in terms of the patterns inside the laser. Really amazing looking. Makes for a great trip toy :yesnod:


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28533316 - 11/07/23 06:25 PM (2 months, 19 days ago)

This guy has emailed me a couple of times trying to get me to participate in his WhatsApp meetings but I just simply refused to download WhatsApp for the same reason I refuse to download tiktok... He seems unwilling to converse with me in depth by any other means.


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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #28533333 - 11/07/23 06:46 PM (2 months, 19 days ago)

I’ve tried this a few times and, as of right now, haven’t been able to see anything. He sent me a link I’m going to read through and try again.

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Re: DMT + Laser = Reveals Alien Code Commonly Reported In Trips [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 4
    #28533349 - 11/07/23 07:02 PM (2 months, 19 days ago)

At this point my suspicion is that this is similar to the phenomenon where the people who are susceptible to hypnosis are susceptible to seeing this thing and the kind of people who aren't are not. I'd really love to be wrong and for there to be something deep and interesting to this but I just feel like enough time has passed now that we would know. If he's learning any important and practical secrets from extra-terrestrial or extra dimensional beings then they can't be more important to him than maintaining his current grift.

It's been long enough that at least a few of the people who claim they experience the same phenomenon could have linked UP And objectively established that they were seeing the same thing by drawing what they saw without looking on to each other's work..

If they were on to something so legitimate that they were concerned about authorities getting on to them that they wouldn't keep making these YouTube videos and advertising it


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