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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28523691 - 10/30/23 05:13 PM (2 months, 27 days ago)

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This is a small example. I’ve seen an enormous one.
When they blow it all away. It just feels so sad. But then they do it again the next day. It’s part of their meditation.





That is incredible. On so many levels.

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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Womble]
    #28523724 - 10/30/23 05:33 PM (2 months, 27 days ago)

It’s a true inspiration. Glad I could share it with you.
Sincerely,
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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: redgreenvines] * 3
    #28524505 - 10/31/23 11:15 AM (2 months, 26 days ago)

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redgreenvines said:
always worth reframing,
interesting to consider default mode as ego, and I think not very off base at all.
kind of a smearing over time of what has been the most busy of overall mental activity tangents.




Yeah, I practice Anapanasati while I trip (and when I'm sober everyday).  It's one of the meditation practices Sidhartha prescribed.

I've experienced complete calming of the default mode network on mushrooms and through meditation.  And I've watched entities calm while practicing which led me to the understanding that they're not something 'out there', but something as close as my breath.

That's the 'parts' entities.  Like I said, I think trauma caused by other people with intent leaves a much different impression.  Something 100% alien.  Something that when seen doesn't calm because it doesn't belong to me.

Some of the parts entities have helped me/us heal from the alien energies.

Anyway, different cultures frame all of this differently.  Rather entities or parts I see this stuff as real energies that most of us are not aware of but that manifest in our lives everyday.

And the guy that does parts work.  That built it as a therapy modality, has practiced with shamans and I doubt would see his way of framing as in competition with how the converstion is being framed here :smile:

Just different ways of looking at and communicating about stuff people experience.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Northerner] * 3
    #28524654 - 10/31/23 02:04 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)

the first time i did dmt i got into the diamond / zelda gem looking dimension space.. i floated around for 1.7 eternities  until this buzzing familiar sound started to approach slowly from everywhere.
the buzzing got louder and louder and louder until it was basicly annihilating. and then a Mega jewel mosquito was above "me"

then it did what mosquitos do and probed me, through my skull.
i was aware and could feel what it is was reading when it went threw my whole being from start to that moment, through ever cell and memory.
i kind of got a chance to timelapse my whole life.

after when it had done what it came for i was abrutly sent back to my body.

I dont know if i got anything out of it more than being confused, and left with a slight feeling of being abused. no recolection of what i saw when probed just a kind of affirmation of me being me, thats ok and that i dont belong there wherever i visited.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: soppos]
    #28524734 - 10/31/23 03:42 PM (2 months, 26 days ago)

You did a great job.
You were a model in an art class.
This being asked for your permission to probe you.
You gave them permission.
They gently looked over your entire existence.
I wonder if they made an art piece about you?


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28525648 - 11/01/23 04:21 PM (2 months, 25 days ago)

Kinda the psychedelic equivalent to being taken on a date perhaps?


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
    #28526028 - 11/01/23 10:41 PM (2 months, 25 days ago)

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GenesisCorrupted said:
You did a great job.
You were a model in an art class.
This being asked for your permission to probe you.
You gave them permission.
They gently looked over your entire existence.
I wonder if they made an art piece about you?





This is beautiful. I always get the impression they're medically examining me, or probing my brain, but this is equally plausible, ime. Nice.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Tootstool] * 1
    #28526228 - 11/02/23 07:00 AM (2 months, 24 days ago)

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Tootstool said:
Kinda the psychedelic equivalent to being taken on a date perhaps?





Hahaha!
Yeah something like that.

-hey who are you then? :naughty:

Goes through my profile and finds unappropriated memes

-nope


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Northerner] * 2
    #28526231 - 11/02/23 07:06 AM (2 months, 24 days ago)

It was more like a survey or scan. To collect data or something similar..
They must be having alot of overtime now when "everyone" wants to dip into the other side.

But all in all I think we are welcome in a way or another. I do wonder how IV DMT would be so that one can prolong the experience over there, hang out for a while


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #28554750 - 11/24/23 08:12 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

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Mike4aco said:
I've encountered entities on
Datura
Black henbane
Cubensis, subs, azzies
Ayahuasca
B caapi
DMT
LSD
Mescaline
Trichocereus cacti
Echinocactus
Ariocarpus




You ate Ariocarpus? Wow!


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Warrk]
    #28554759 - 11/24/23 08:27 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

The most terrifying entity I've seen was on aya.

A portal opens and through it emerges a being - a cross between locust, lobster, alien spaceship and something else.

It is huuuuuge and it's name is death and terror.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: fractalFox] * 1
    #28554776 - 11/24/23 08:54 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

Sounds like the Dweller on the Threshold.  Guardian of the gate to the dream realms/astral plane/spirit world//bardo etc.

I've encountered variations on the theme in a lot of places.  First came across it through table top roleplaying.  And have encountered it often as a visual representation of needing to let go of conceptual clinging to ideas like birth and death, self and other, etc. in my own journeys.

And in Buddhism, impermanence is a dharma seal.  One of the marks the Buddha offered as meditation objects for penetrating insight into the ultimate nature of reality.  And Mara is kinda the dweller on the threshold in a lot of Buddhist cosmology.  The Lord of Death that keeps the cycle of Samsara spinning.  If we let go of birth and death, Mara has no power.  And we can see the bardo Timothy Leary and the Tibetans talk about.

Of course, that takes practice.


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Edited by tree frog (11/24/23 09:04 AM)


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: tree frog]
    #28554838 - 11/24/23 10:16 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

That's interesting, haven't heard of the term before.

Yeah, the "rite of passage" followed that entity, which ended up in pure joy and realisation that that was just aya playing with me and teaching me a lesson on happiness by the contrast of ultimate fear and death.

Which is hilarious in retrospect, but in the moment utterly terrifying.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: fractalFox] * 1
    #28556777 - 11/26/23 06:37 AM (2 months, 18 hours ago)

Black snake with spider arms and spikes. Or white snake with featherd wings and soft fur.

Like "death and terror", or "dweller on the threshold", this one was terrifying at first, but I presented myself to it (not easy) and asked it what it wanted and it transformed into beauty and took me on a journey.

I think of it as the black entity, because that's how it first presented itself to me, but it could just as easily be the white entity.

It showed me, at the end, an elaborate explanation of how world peace can be achieved.

Basically boils down to forgiveness.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Sub-Easy] * 1
    #28556819 - 11/26/23 07:41 AM (2 months, 17 hours ago)

Again, in Buddhism, Nirvana/Samsara are two sides of the same coin.

So the Dweller being both the fear of death, and the release from the fear of death (or any sort of existential terror), makes sense to me.

Both Mother Aya and the fear of death for the fox.  And both the black snake and the white snake for you.

Snakes are a symbol of both spiritual wisdom and transformation btw.  Also the white serpent and the rainbow serpent (she includes black as well as white, the unknown and the known) show up in many world religions, modern and ancient.  Kundalini rising (rainbow) and descending (white) are probably the most known by modern western people.  But the same dualism shows up in Indigenous Western religions (Maya or Aztec, or maybe both, no longer have access to the book I found that im though).


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: tree frog] * 2
    #28558892 - 11/27/23 09:21 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Share time.
The memory of the event is still vivid to this day even though about 20 years have passed. It rattled me good in a mind blown “WTF is this” sort of way and not due to fear or any negative reason.

I had just heard of Salvia and it was available to buy legally at the shop down the road from my apartment. I had very little knowledge of what it was but was told to smoke deeply and hold it in. This leaf had a x5 on it so I assumed it was concentrated. I’m not usually reckless but I really didn’t do my homework on this new compound.

Anyway, once I got home I took two deep inhalations and sort of just flopped back on my bed and closed my eyes. Within seconds the behind closed eyes visuals took off in a twisting motion pulling me what felt like physically to the right. Everything went shades of red. It was really fascinating and chaotic. Then I heard a generic “masculine “ voice to my left and a generic ” feminine “ voice to my right. Both speaking in plain English.  It was as though they were shoulder to shoulder with me in my bed. They were talking to each other about me. They both giggled to each other often and said, “oh he’s here” “don’t worry about history, it’s a joke” “death is safe” “you’ll understand” then more giggling. My eyes still shut, watching the visuals twist/fold/expand etc…and I didn’t move at all. I was paying close attention to what was being said. They went on to say one last silly thing.  I have no idea what they meant but I was told to “pay attention to all styles of pants” and then they giggled more. The event was coming to an end and I then opened my eyes. I was just laying there feeling rattled and confused. I had no idea how long it had been. It felt so brief and also out of time.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: what-ok] * 1
    #28558905 - 11/27/23 09:37 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

So years later you're a leader in pants fashion, this was a defining moment... xD


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #28558918 - 11/27/23 09:45 PM (1 month, 30 days ago)

Hahaha. So silly right (=


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: what-ok] * 1
    #28559083 - 11/28/23 04:50 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

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Hahaha. So silly right (=




Your salvia trip reminded me of something I first heard from one of the Insight meditation teachers (Jack Kornfield).

Thoughts think themselves.

What this means is that when the attachment to the voice in our head being 'my voice' isn't there, thoughts are more like these things that bubble up without a sense of ownership.

And in my personal experience, they don't even sound like me when this attachment is gone.  Could sound like a man and a woman having a conversation about me, for example.

Actually, the day after I took some Tamp fruits (earlier this week), I was in a fight with my girlfriend.  Voices in my head, not in my voice, kept reminding me how good she is to me.  While the voices in my head, that were in my voice, were the ones all pissed off at her ("my" wounded ego.)  This was the day after tripping which was really interesting to me.  Fruits still working their magic.


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Re: Have you ever encountered an entity? [Re: tree frog]
    #28559139 - 11/28/23 06:51 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

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tree frog said:
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Thoughts think themselves.

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indeed,
this is the essence, however, they have no will of their own, though they may seem to have meaning - but the meaning is in context and continuity more than otherwise.

If you are not following the context closely, and you are not that familiar with the range of experience your own thoughts deliver, it can seem that autonomous or semiautonomous entities are influencing or trying to influence you.


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