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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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I soak mine 24 hours then simmer 10 minutes but it doesnt seem to be enough. When cut open theres still some dryness inside. I also strain and let them steam dry for 8 hours, agitating occasionally.

My grain prep could possibly be ok, just dont know what else could be going wrong.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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Simmer longer.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado]
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Yea, my thought exactly. Ive dealt with this issue forever and have potentially overlooked my grain prep as being flawed. Ive followed teks but maybe what works for others dont for me for whatever reason.

I have left uninoculated jars for 2 months without contam so idk. Ive considered everything at this point.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: AspectOfTheCreator]
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It’s also worth noting that WBS and millet CAN be loaded wet. They will continue to hydrate in your PC cycle. So if you’ve got them partially hydrated after simmering/soaking, just load them moist instead of drying them out.

There’s more than one way to prep grains, and WBS is very forgiving of hydration errors


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Thanks. I agree it seems hard to fuck up but something is going on. It makes no sense.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
There’s more than one way to prep grains, and WBS is very forgiving of hydration errors


I've always felt the opposite


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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2 questions.

1. How much harvest is good amount in ounces fresh fruits for the first one like right after spawn to bulk?

2. Any guides to doing my first flush?

Thanks

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r]
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That depends on a lot of factors. How much spawn, size of tub, etc. If you're looking for a guide, I'd just read a lot of grow logs and threads.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Zav3r]
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It’s dependent on spawn weight.  Typically, a quart of spawn (roughly a pound) spawned at 1:2 to sub will yield 1-2 dry ounces of dried fruit (~280-560g fresh)…ideally, you will get that in a single flush.  Of course, genetics are going to play a big part in that as well.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
Smellyhobbit said:
There’s more than one way to prep grains, and WBS is very forgiving of hydration errors


I've always felt the opposite


About hydration or multiple approaches?

I have tested 3 WBS preps and found they all performed equally well. And I’ve had overly hydrated WBS perform equally to properly hydrated WBS, although it does look pretty off in the jar. Always works out in the end. That’s WBS and millet for me.

Obviously that’s just my experience. Not saying you’re wrong or anything, just curious


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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I tried millet back in the day, but it always turned out too dry or too wet, usually too dry. never felt right. Struggled with oats but never got them dry enough.
Wheat seems to be much more forgiving with having a few burst grains


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
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I think wheat is probably the best grain, all things considered. Like if I had access to everything I’d probably choose wheat. But WBS is pretty damn good too. Straight millet is ok for versatility and wiggle room, but I may prefer WBS these days.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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you wouldn't pick rye?  Or is it just too pricey?

I've only done oats so far.  I just weighed the bag and I have 26 pounds left.

I do want to try wheat, if I can find a source near me.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kinoko314]
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I buy my wheat at a semi local bulk retail store, used to be 49c/lb.
Last time I was there it was closer to 90c/lb... insane. Think I'll have to start going to the farmers and grain traders, that's wild.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: chris77]
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chris77 said:
+1 for slow simmering no soak (oats).
if i boil them "fast" they are not fully hydrated when ready.
i guess this really depends on a dialed in routine which is different for each grain/setup/location etc.


I really like this method.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28052502/fpart/1/vc/1
I use oats, BTW.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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tryptkaloids said:
I buy my wheat at a semi local bulk retail store, used to be 49c/lb.
Last time I was there it was closer to 90c/lb... insane. Think I'll have to start going to the farmers and grain traders, that's wild.


You can thank Russia for that price increase.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122] * 1
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Thinking about devoting a 1/4 acre to wheat production lol


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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If you have the space go for it. It's not going to  change soon.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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i dont know why i can go to any feed store here and get wheat for about $12 for a 50lb bag.  Rye Ive only ever seen sold for human consumption and its just too expensive. 

my qq is, why do i keep
screaming into the void of reddit when nobody will listen.  I wish i could bring myself to delete the app buts its like slowmotion train wreck i cant quit watching.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Quick question: if a small room (~130 sq ft) has 32 monotubs active would one have to worry about FAE of the entire room? Would a small air purifier and a non-air tight door be good enough to supply the room with enough fresh air? Is that even a thing?


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