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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dbag2192] * 2
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Nothing about tomentose growth sucks. Not sure how many times you've attempted to fruit the tomentose plates and ended up with contam in your block but you should probably try to fruit the same culture from both types of agar side by side.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho]
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SirPsycho said:
Nothing about tomentose growth sucks. Not sure how many times you've attempted to fruit the tomentose plates and ended up with contam in your block but you should probably try to fruit the same culture from both types of agar side by side.



I’ve been trying with this JF one for about a year now…I don’t mind tomentose at all…and it’s super hard to see in the pics but something is in there..the height and everything just makes me think there’s something still in it…and I’m too afraid to put the rit plates straight to grains…I want to…cus they look gorgeous…but I can’t bring myself to put rit in my grains …I just got new JF swabs…I’m giving in on the current JF

Edited by dbag2192 (07/24/23 05:08 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dbag2192]
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So food for thought…if you’re saying your RIT plates are clean and then transfer to LME then get dirty…wouldn’t that be saying it’s riding along WITH the RIT to LME plate?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dbag2192] * 1
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dbag2192 said:
Edit edit: I’ve used those plates that look like that and they seem to colonize fine, even colonize sub fine. But they don’t fruit and eventually they get trich.



The first thing I'd be wondering is whether I messed up my grain prep somewhere. Do your jars look bacterial?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dbag2192] * 3
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It seems you're equating rhizo with beauty or not sucking but the point is this is the same culture exhibiting these traits. They indicate nothing of interest.

It's normal for cultures to flip between tomentose and rhizo based on nutrient content. Your plates show no signs of contam.

None of this is actually gonna help identify the source of your issue.

New swabs might though.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Screwup] * 2
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Different media, different morphology…that tracks.  I’d prolly just go back to spore if my tubs were suffering.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mycolorado] * 3
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Tomentose with height doesn’t mean anything. I’ve had super puffy plates that were totally fine.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
Different media, different morphology…that tracks.  I’d prolly just go back to spore if my tubs were suffering.



I’m not sure I understand. Are you saying that the LME is the cause of his issues?


Or you’re just simply stating…different media different looks?


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Edited by Screwup (07/24/23 05:26 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Screwup]
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nah i think he’s just saying that different agar recipes can drastically alter the growth habits of the myc so it makes sense that it looks different between the plates


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: hazyhorse] * 1
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hazyhorse said:
nah i think he’s just saying that different agar recipes can drastically alter the growth habits of the myc so it makes sense that it looks different between the plates



An okay he replied to me but i figured he wasn’t “actually” replying to me lol.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Screwup]
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Yea I think it’s just riding along with the rit but not as visible…and nah I don’t really care if it’s rhizo or tomentose..as long as it’s clean..the jars look great..every now and then get one that kinda looks bacterial but generally now days my grains look amazing…I don’t know…imma just keep moving on until I figure it out..thanks for all the help and suggestions!

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dbag2192]
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Make sure you make changes one at a time and use a "control" whenever possible, for example leaving jars un-inoculated along your inoculated jars to check if your sterilization cycle is proper


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Screwup] * 3
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The latter.

I wasn’t gonna add this as I’m on mobile and it’s a bitch to get long winded but:

The morphology shouldn’t have any bearing on the tubs not fruiting.  I have a hard time believing that the cultures can come from the nute medium and the tub fails yet a xfer made from that medium back to rit and then used results in a successful fruiting.  Be curious to hear what the sample size is on that.  It’s possible the rit has some inhibitory properties on bacterial growth but that just seems like a stretch as far as those results go.  As mentioned, I’d look at other areas of the process and go back to spore if all else fails.  Or, just run the rit :shrug:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
The latter.

I wasn’t gonna add this as I’m on mobile and it’s a bitch to get long winded but:

The morphology shouldn’t have any bearing on the tubs not fruiting.  I have a hard time believing that the cultures can come from the nute medium and the tub fails yet a xfer made from that medium back to rit and then used results in a successful fruiting.  Be curious to hear what the sample size is on that.  It’s possible the rit has some inhibitory properties on bacterial growth but that just seems like a stretch as far as those results go.  As mentioned, I’d look at other areas of the process and go back to spore if all else fails.  Or, just run the rit :shrug:



He hasn't had success going to rit then back to nute and into fruiting from what I understood


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mycolorado]
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Thanks guys!!! Hazy! Check out my thread…I’m getting much better than when we first met haha

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho]
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SirPsycho said:
Mycolorado said:
The latter.

I wasn’t gonna add this as I’m on mobile and it’s a bitch to get long winded but:

The morphology shouldn’t have any bearing on the tubs not fruiting.  I have a hard time believing that the cultures can come from the nute medium and the tub fails yet a xfer made from that medium back to rit and then used results in a successful fruiting.  Be curious to hear what the sample size is on that.  It’s possible the rit has some inhibitory properties on bacterial growth but that just seems like a stretch as far as those results go.  As mentioned, I’d look at other areas of the process and go back to spore if all else fails.  Or, just run the rit :shrug:



He hasn't had success going to rit then back to nute and into fruiting from what I understood



Yup that’s exactly it…they colonize great, colonize sub great, but won’t fruit…it’s always when they are those super puffy ones for me

Edited by dbag2192 (07/24/23 05:40 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho]
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But if used from the rit, they fruit, correct?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
But if used from the rit, they fruit, correct?



I’ve never used one from the rit..I’m too afraid to put it in my grains…I don’t want the chemicals and shit

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dbag2192] * 3
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Do it for science, you don't have to eat everything you grow


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: dbag2192]
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Ah, ok….I misunderstood.  And good, as that wouldn’t make sense to me.  I’d just toss the problematic cultures and go back to spore unless those are super dope killer genetics you have to have.

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