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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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Weird, I just used a bucket of eco earth I had sitting around for a month and a half or so, as do many without problems

The coco I use in my garden has trich added to it, I wonder if they produce grow media coco in the same factory the eco earth is made in and you got a bad batch with cross contamination πŸ€”


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: aPurpleCray0n] * 1
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aPurpleCray0n said:
Weird, I just used a bucket of eco earth I had sitting around for a month and a half or so, as do many without problems

The coco I use in my garden has trich added to it, I wonder if they produce grow media coco in the same factory the eco earth is made in and you got a bad batch with cross contamination πŸ€”


I hate eco earth with a passion ;_;, that stuff absorbs so little water


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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Hey folks!
Two questions:

A friend of a friend is getting very few shrooms on their first flush, and they are all really small and mature before they get large, and don’t really have much in the way of density.  They have two FAE holes about 2 inches in diameter on either side of my tub, packed with poly fill. Should they cut a couple more holes? Humidity seems to be staying high and they get mushrooms all along the edge of the lid and only a few here and there in the rest of the tray.

It’s an 12x20 dome style tray. I’ll be making a mono tub for my next grow im just not sure if I should let this cake resolve in this tray or not.

Second question:

They have a second cake that is like insanely incubated and was given fruiting conditions a month ago and it’s just gone lumpy with no fruits.  Is there any salvaging it? It’s very clean and healthy looking otherwise and no weird smells. Just lumps. 

fruiting temps are 71.2-74 degrees. Too cold? RH is high in my FOAF’s apartment as well from all our aquariums. 

I’ll reply with pics if that helps?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: gameboyhomeboy]
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Pandaskis]
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I forgot to bucket tek my coir the night before so tried just using warm water for the first time and lost all 4 tubs to trich before even seeing mycelium, won’t be doing that again.
Not sure I’ll go the sterilisation route for coir but was curious how it’s done, I’ve seen people say hydrate it then pc but how much h2o?
I imagine if you hydrated to only field capacity you’d lose a little through venting (sure you can rehydrate) but isn’t there a chance of coir burning, especially closer to the flame or element?
Just seems a little freaky putting something in the pc that absorbs all the water and leaves nothing to boil, what am I missing here?
Btw, this is me being lazy and not using the search function but I’m genuinely curious as to peoples thoughts and techniques on this.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: gameboyhomeboy]
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I'll hydrate my coir, load my coir into jars or bags and PC for 60min - 120min if I'm having issues with the coir.

gameboyhomeboy said:



Idk about anyone else but those mushrooms look regular, adolescent sure, but they look like they're about to gain a lot of size...

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushhead]
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mushhead said:
I'll load my coir into jars or bags and PC it if I'm having issues with the coir.
Obviously I'll have hydrated my coir before hand, loaded it into bags or jars, and then PC for like 60min - 120min.


Damn. That’s a lot of work.:tryingnottodie:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 3.A.M]
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:shrug: You want to run  your PC with a load of coir in the bottom?
That wont exactly go too well. See we want it to be sterile when it comes out - that is if you want to sterilize your coir.
You want to pack it in a way that it keeps that sterility up until you use it. Like grain.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 1
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RoscoeReturns said:
AspectOfTheCreator said:
Trich, turns blue, refuses to fruit, whatever the hell this is




I know people will refute it but I think its the coir. Theres saplings growing out of half the tubs I do, and despite every tek on here suggesting to use 5x the mass of water to coir to hydrate it, or to use 4-4.5 qts water to 1 brick and 2 quarts verm, this coir will only hold about 1/2 that, with or without verm, before being way over field capacity.

Im kind of grasping at straws looking for anything different I can be doing. My agar is always good and when its not its very obvious. So i dont think its my sterile technique.


I don’t know if your problem is the coir, but there certainly is β€œbad” coir. The batch I’m using currently will only soak up about 2.5-3mL per gram. That’s much less water than I’m used to using. I had lots of similar issues, good agar, good looking grain, colonizes fine or stalls out, then right when I expect pins I get mold.

I’ve switched it up, and hydrate and PC my substrate. Problem disappeared. Even slow exotics like semps don’t mold. I really don’t like having to sterilize my substrate for cubes, but until I use up my bulk buy of Eco Earth, it’s my only option. I’ll be switching brands if I use coir in the future.


Yup. Eco earth is what Ive been using.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
:facepalm3: you just laid it all out.

stop using dirty LC.

only the cleanest and best agar cultures go to grain.

you only expand the best and cleanest looking grain jar.

repeat.

post pics of your work and be ready to accept critique.



Here’s what I’ve got for pics.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jmyco] * 1
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:horrified:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado]
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Das some cool mold


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
:horrified:


What? You don't like Geotrichum?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SirPsycho]
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SirPsycho said:
Mycolorado said:
:horrified:


What? You don't like Geotrichum?


:penisisevil:
This mold followed me around for like six months.
It got into everything. I was duped by it's whiteish growth.
Some of the hardest lessons are learned by wasting a bunch of time and coir...

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushhead]
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mushhead said:
SirPsycho said:
Mycolorado said:
:horrified:


What? You don't like Geotrichum?


:penisisevil:
This mold followed me around for like six months.
It got into everything. I was duped by it's whiteish growth.
Some of the hardest lessons are learned by wasting a bunch of time and coir...


I got Penicillium doing that same shit


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushhead]
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mushhead said:
SirPsycho said:
Mycolorado said:
:horrified:


What? You don't like Geotrichum?


:penisisevil:
This mold followed me around for like six months.
It got into everything. I was duped by it's whiteish growth.
Some of the hardest lessons are learned by wasting a bunch of time and coir...


Is there something I can do to get rid of it? Looking white like that is pretty misleading to a newbie

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushhead]
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Does that mean it’s not coming from my prep, coming from an external source?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Jmyco] * 2
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Jar 2 is obviously bad. Jar 3 doesn’t look good.  Ape plate looks good…I’m guessing the lighting is making it look yellow?  The germ plate could be transferred from. Get rid of the the LC and start noc’ing your grain with wedges.


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Mycolorado’s Tamp Fruit Project
Tampanensis Grow with Mycolorado
bw86's Jalisco Grow

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado]
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:whathesaid:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Hello!

I have a second flush of a shoe box going, the fruits are developing nicely, however some of the heads look a bit deflated now and the surface seems a bit dry, is it possible to rehydrate the substrate a bit while its still fruiting to ensure there's enough water for all the pins to mature?

I dunked the tub for about 3 hours before I put it back into FC and I'm now wondering if that was perhaps a bit too short


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