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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
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That’s what he said. I remembered it wrong. Easier to absorb is the claim.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup] * 1
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Screwup said:
What nutrients have we settled on if any being in coir again?


We haven't.

It's all batch to batch. Nothing in this universe is inert. Not even space.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Nichrome said:
Screwup said:
What nutrients have we settled on if any being in coir again?


We haven't.

It's all batch to batch. Nothing in this universe is inert. Not even space.


So pure coir (obviously hard to get or impossible due to processing)  wouldn’t have a more definitive answer? Anything beyond coir would be additives or contam for my purpose.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Nichrome said:
I cook the hell out of my coir or I get green. I live in a very moist moldy place. My entire back porch is one big trichoderma colony. If I don't cook the shit out of my coir I loose the game. If I cook the shit out of it then I win every time. I also grow trich on purpose looking for good metabolite producers, enzyme producers, plant/garden allies, etc, and am very familiar with the organism and it's variability. I do not underestimate the green but I also don't fear it.

Some people don't do much more than hydrate blocks with tap water and it works great for them consistently. There are thousands of coir producers world wide. Not all coir is the same and is batch to batch regardless of branding or source just like any other material. Other factors include genetic susceptibility to infection, spore load in the air in both variety and concentration, all other materials used, barometric pressure, etc etc. We are all using something different from each other regardless of brand or source. There is no way to quantify a 1+1=2 absolute scenario when there's sevens and unknown variables involved. It's more of a y=mx+b type scenario.


Just my 2c.


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I pasteurize my coir every time. I take no chances.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: mushhead]
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You guys don’t use gypsum?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 6
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Brand new bucket. Coir and water.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup] * 3
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Screwup said:
Nichrome said:
Screwup said:
What nutrients have we settled on if any being in coir again?


We haven't.

It's all batch to batch. Nothing in this universe is inert. Not even space.


So pure coir (obviously hard to get or impossible due to processing)  wouldn’t have a more definitive answer? Anything beyond coir would be additives or contam for my purpose.


Pretty sure you started this line of questions for the wrong reasons. Seems like this is just a gas lighter move where you wanted to bring up something people like to argue about. This is not the thread for that shit if so. And if so you can fuck off in my opinion.

Are you really curious?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse]
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The guy posted consistently for over 20 years, with every comment being logged. I think he deserves some leeway with the changing times. I respect his methods a lot, as they’ve worked for me better than a lot of other advice.  Whereas it seems that people now want to reinvent the wheel and then package it into a TEK. I’m sure if you continue posting here, in 20 years there will be some kids laughing at your comments.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo]
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Shit talkers suck.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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The questions were on coir and nutrition. I added on to it inquiring beyond that assuming coir and coir alone if was at all possible provided nutrition. Feel free to not answer it b


Chamo said:
The guy posted consistently for over 20 years, with every comment being logged. I think he deserves some leeway with the changing times. I respect his methods a lot, as they’ve worked for me better than a lot of other advice.  Whereas it seems that people now want to reinvent the wheel and then package it into a TEK. I’m sure if you continue posting here, in 20 years there will be some kids laughing at your comments.


Kinda hope there is some adults laughing at me rn


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo] * 2
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Chamo said:
The guy posted consistently for over 20 years, with every comment being logged. I think he deserves some leeway with the changing times. I respect his methods a lot, as they’ve worked for me better than a lot of other advice.  Whereas it seems that people now want to reinvent the wheel and then package it into a TEK. I’m sure if you continue posting here, in 20 years there will be some kids laughing at your comments.


oh man. i wasn’t trying to shit talk him at all. literally just commenting on how far a lot of stuff has come. he changed the game for cultivation & i literally said “he was a godsend” idk if my tone got misconstrued or what but nowhere was i saying he was stupid. i have posted a lot of stupid shit & probably still am actively. was not trying to elevate myself or my ego at all. was just making a silly lil comment bc i remembered seeing him say glass petris suck for mycology, which in my opinion isn’t true. not trying to say he was a total idiot or that most of his info isn’t still valid. damn.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup] * 5
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Coir is primarily cellulose which is food for a lot of things, being a carbohydrate. There are also other vitamins, minerals such as forms of potassium that compete or "rob" calcium in certain forms, and other carbohydrates other than cellulose.

Growing conditions and genetics have play on the composition of coconut husks. Coconuts grown in saline rich areas such as beach lines have a different makeup than coconuts grown inland in calcium rich soils. There is nutrition in coir for organisms. The data will vary too much to define what is or isn't in a certain batch of coir. The only way to "know" what is in your coir is to get it tested. Nobody has time for that.

Coconut husk is often used for toxic waste cleanup and ends up in coir products.

There are a lot of variables. Coir is nutritious.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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Thanks for the info!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse] * 2
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I wasn’t lecturing, man! I think my writing comes across differently than I really am. I agree completely. Some of those old threads are hilarious to read.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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Very interesting

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There is a current form of casual shit talking as the common speech these days. It comes primarily from modern media entertainment and most people are completely desensitized to it. I try to remain conscious of it and avoid it. I still slip up and fall into it. Human condition.:heart:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo]
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Chamo said:
I wasn’t lecturing, man! I think my writing comes across differently than I really am. I agree completely. Some of those old threads are hilarious to read.


Haha, you write pretty combatively, but I think Im starting to understand your approach. Text over the internet is a difficult medium for communication


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo]
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ohh ok!! no worries dude, tone can be really hard to read sometimes if you don’t know the poster very well & tensions have been a little high on the boards so i wanted to make sure i wasn’t coming across like i was trying to shit talk or anything! im just a staunch glass petri fan & will not stand for his outdated slander >:( lol

we’re on the same page homie :thumbup:

just always funny to me how people can be so groundbreakingly right about things & super wrong about others. duality & all that shit. just cool to see some information stay relevant from that era while other paradigms have completely shifted


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 4
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Nichrome said:
And if so you can fuck off in my opinion.


I think it's about time you relax, we're getting pretty close to the line. Passive aggressiveness ia one thing, outright aggression is unnecessary. We're all adults here, no need for emotions to get the better of us. Agreed?

Let's all play nicely.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse] * 3
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It’s all in good fun. Nothing personal. I’m just not very PC, I enjoy a good banter. I didn’t mean to stir shit up in the forum though. I felt I was trying to find a real conclusion while swatting flies away from my face.

For instance, when it was claimed “mamarracho” is a sexist term against women, the first thought in my head to say was no that is mamarracha. :rant:

It is only serious if you mean it personally, and I tell you all nothing I say could possibly be personal because I don’t know you.

I’ll work on the tone

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