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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SilentEagle]
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Ready as they're going to be.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 1
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As a fresh start I would like to come in peace and ask if someone can recommend to me a bulk pasteurization method? I’m having trouble with the time it takes

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo]
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coir? or manure/straw type stuff?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse]
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I have coir/Verm with some worm castings and gypsum. Although the worm castings concern me for contams. What would you suggest?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo] * 1
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Straight coir works great and no need to pasteurize.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mycolorado]
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K.I.S.S.
I’ve never tried that. I’ll give it a go. That would save a lot of trouble.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo] * 1
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Chamo said:
I have coir/Verm with some worm castings and gypsum. Although the worm castings concern me for contams. What would you suggest?


ditch the castings for sure, they are better off in the garden & i don’t think they realistically add anything the myc needs. people have had plenty of killer flushes on coir alone but verm is nice to add, i just can’t find it at a reasonable price locally anymore lol

like mycolorado said coir doesn’t need to be pasteurized but a lot of us hydrate with boiling water. look up 50/50 bucket tek for that


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: hazyhorse]
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Yeah the stuff is old too, I was just trying to use it up. I’ll throw it on the cacti.

Thanks I’ll look that up. :rockon:

If coir works alone, I just wasted a lot on some unreasonably priced verm haha

I’m new to PE strains. But I read here a casing is recommended. Verm and peat?

Edited by Chamo (06/20/23 04:40 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo] * 1
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it’s not all lost! verm is nice to have in hand in case you overhydrate your coir. it sucks to hand squeeze the shit lol. a lot of people like the β€œtexture” the verm adds to the substrate too, but field capacity is field capacity :shrug:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo] * 7
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I cook the hell out of my coir or I get green. I live in a very moist moldy place. My entire back porch is one big trichoderma colony. If I don't cook the shit out of my coir I loose the game. If I cook the shit out of it then I win every time. I also grow trich on purpose looking for good metabolite producers, enzyme producers, plant/garden allies, etc, and am very familiar with the organism and it's variability. I do not underestimate the green but I also don't fear it.

Some people don't do much more than hydrate blocks with tap water and it works great for them consistently. There are thousands of coir producers world wide. Not all coir is the same and is batch to batch regardless of branding or source just like any other material. Other factors include genetic susceptibility to infection, spore load in the air in both variety and concentration, all other materials used, barometric pressure, etc etc. We are all using something different from each other regardless of brand or source. There is no way to quantify a 1+1=2 absolute scenario when there's sevens and unknown variables involved. It's more of a y=mx+b type scenario.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 4
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I still find a lot of utility in verm. It’s good to have around if you need to adjust hydration in your coir. But coir is definitely 100% adequate for growing cubes.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
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I have also read in an old RR post that heating the coir may make some of the nutrients more accessible. Is that true?

I think all of this inspired me to go back to the basics of experimentation. Starting very simple. I’ll try it both ways.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo] * 1
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What nutrients have we settled on if any being in coir again?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] * 4
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hell yeah nichrome banger response. the longer i cultivate the more & more i come to realize how much of this shit is really & truly a case by case basis

also i remember baked beings had a good thread on his coir that was contaminating on its own with no added nutrition, so the quality definitely can vary

also didn’t know you worked with trich for plant stuff but that’s really bad ass man


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Screwup]
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I have no idea. I was asking. I read it in a RR post.

Apologies he does not mention nutrients in the post. He claims it makes the coir easier to digest.

Edited by Chamo (06/20/23 05:01 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo] * 1
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That was just in addition too. There is a thread where someone mentioned something specific I believe but I’m hella lazy. I think the reason we like heat is it hydrated and softens the coir easier/faster for absorption purposes. Nothing to do with nutrition AFAIK.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo]
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from what i understand it’s generally regarded that coir isn’t very nutritious on its own bc mold will not readily germinate on it most of the time. i just assumed the boiling water maybe like broke down the fibers or something & made it easier for the myc to colonize/extract moisture from? could totally be some bro science on the myc β€œliking” cooked coir tho i never saw anything official on it


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Chamo] * 2
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Did we ever figure out if mushrooms need to be brought out for sunlight for like 10 minutes a day like RR used to say? :laugh:

It allows the coir to break up easier. I think that is about where the science ends on that one.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way] * 6
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Way said:
Did we ever figure out if mushrooms need to be brought out for sunlight for like 10 minutes a day like RR used to say? :laugh:

It allows the coir to break up easier. I think that is about where the science ends on that one.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Way] * 1
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also, glass petris have no place in mycology right guys?? (;

it’s so funny reading some old RR posts. dude was a godsend for mush cult at the time for sure but it’s fascinating to me how far we’ve come from that era in our understanding of things


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