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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Pandaskis]
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Pandaskis said:
Isnt yield determined by how much grain spawn you use, not how much substrate? As far as I know, more substrate just means you get most of your yield in the first flush. Less substrate means youll have to get the yield in multiple flushes


Yes and yes. Pretty sure that's what SPG meant as well


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: SirPsycho] * 7
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1:1 will give you a lower overall yeild but it will all be in one flush and fast, if the culture is efficient you might have a hard time squeezing out a second flush, but your much more likely to see results from bacterial spawn

1:6will take longer and will be able to push out multiple flushes if you desire, but If your culture has issues the extra colonization time could allow contams to proliferate

Every culture has its sweet spot. But I suggest running consistent ratio’s and finding clones that work for you instead of working for them.

These days I run everything ~ 1:3.5 works relatively well for Getting 2 flushes with minor rehydration in my setup. I used to do 1 and dones @ 1:1.5-1:2 .

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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: SirPsycho] * 8
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This cake gave me clones and a early surprise in the Watertub!

Beyond stoked!


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: AyePlus] * 3
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The way I’m looking at it, yield is about the same no matter what assuming you’re rehydrating it.

1:1 will flush quickly but you’ll probably need to add more water to get a solid second flush.

Anything past that will take longer to colonize/fruit but will need to be rehydrated less.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: A.k.a] * 2
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A.k.a said:
San Pedro Girl said:
TonyCanoli said:
Day 1 of my first official shoebox that I followed all the rules for! (except the liner)

I’m so stoked! Think I may have gone a little light on the casing layer though because I wasn’t expecting to see colonization so soon.



Oh and this jar is still doing its thing. It looks really cool but the temptation to smash the glass so they can grow better is really tough to ignore lol.




Nice! Liner and casing layer are unnecessary, so don’t worry. Looks like good compression, but maybe a bit light on the coir. What ratio did you use? High ratio will generally give you faster colonization, but smaller yields.



I don’t understand what you’re saying. How could it be faster colonization with less yield?


Also the other day I saw something posted about the nutrients in coir fueling the mycelium, it’s been well established that coir is nearly devoid of nutrients.


Sorry, I probably just worded it badly. What I mean is that when I make shoe boxes at a 1:1 ratio, I get faster colonization, but my total yield is less. When I make shoe boxes at 1:6, colonization takes a lot longer, but I get better yields.

As far as I know about coir, it’s not great at growing mushrooms by itself without supplementation from grain, etc. I’ve never tested that myself, but just regurgitating common knowledge. I do disagree it’s nearly devoid of nutrients though. Good bacteria will colonize it very quickly in my experience.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Dirtnapz] * 3
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Dirtnapz said:
This cake has giving me a clone and a early surprise in the Watertub!

Beyond stoked!


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: San Pedro Girl]
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San Pedro Girl said:
Nice! Liner and casing layer are unnecessary, so don’t worry. Looks like good compression, but maybe a bit light on the coir. What ratio did you use? High ratio will generally give you faster colonization, but smaller yields.


I do a 1:2 including .5qt casing, so your saying I could just do no casing with 1:2 total and it be fine, then besides blobs why casing in so many people's tubs?

Thanks,


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Grogu] * 2
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To keep things snug. Where’s all the pe been lately? :crazy2:

Edited by Prolific Koi (05/08/23 10:45 PM)

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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: SirPsycho] * 1
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SirPsycho said:
A.k.a said:
San Pedro Girl said:
TonyCanoli said:
Day 1 of my first official shoebox that I followed all the rules for! (except the liner)

I’m so stoked! Think I may have gone a little light on the casing layer though because I wasn’t expecting to see colonization so soon.



Oh and this jar is still doing its thing. It looks really cool but the temptation to smash the glass so they can grow better is really tough to ignore lol.




Nice! Liner and casing layer are unnecessary, so don’t worry. Looks like good compression, but maybe a bit light on the coir. What ratio did you use? High ratio will generally give you faster colonization, but smaller yields.



I don’t understand what you’re saying. How could it be faster colonization with less yield?


Also the other day I saw something posted about the nutrients in coir fueling the mycelium, it’s been well established that coir is nearly devoid of nutrients.


I believe they are saying 1:1 spawn to sub will colonize the sub and fruit faster than 1:3(or what have you) but 1:3 will give better yields.



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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: MushieMafia] * 10
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Jack Frost clone


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: MushieMafia]
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MushieMafia said:
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The Sausage one...lol

He took down his 66qt one, I use that tek...

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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Grogu]
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Grogu said:
San Pedro Girl said:
Nice! Liner and casing layer are unnecessary, so don’t worry. Looks like good compression, but maybe a bit light on the coir. What ratio did you use? High ratio will generally give you faster colonization, but smaller yields.


I do a 1:2 including .5qt casing, so your saying I could just do no casing with 1:2 total and it be fine, then besides blobs why casing in so many people's tubs?

Thanks,




The equivalent would be going 1:2.5 in your case. I’m honestly not too sure why so many people use them. I used to and don’t notice a significant difference without it. It definitely doesn’t hurt, but it was just an extra step for me.🀷


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: San Pedro Girl]
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San Pedro Girl said:
Grogu said:
San Pedro Girl said:
Nice! Liner and casing layer are unnecessary, so don’t worry. Looks like good compression, but maybe a bit light on the coir. What ratio did you use? High ratio will generally give you faster colonization, but smaller yields.


I do a 1:2 including .5qt casing, so your saying I could just do no casing with 1:2 total and it be fine, then besides blobs why casing in so many people's tubs?

Thanks,




The equivalent would be going 1:2.5 in your case. I’m honestly not too sure why so many people use them. I used to and don’t notice a significant difference without it. It definitely doesn’t hurt, but it was just an extra step for me.🀷


I meant I mix 1.5qt with 1 qt spawn then .5qt case, but if I just did 1:2 with no casing I'd not know what to expect different...

In my mind maybe it just offers protection till the grain recovers and the myc is stronger having colonized more...

Honestly, I like simpler and don't use liner...

:stoned:


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Grogu] * 2
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Grogu said:
San Pedro Girl said:
Grogu said:
San Pedro Girl said:
Nice! Liner and casing layer are unnecessary, so don’t worry. Looks like good compression, but maybe a bit light on the coir. What ratio did you use? High ratio will generally give you faster colonization, but smaller yields.


I do a 1:2 including .5qt casing, so your saying I could just do no casing with 1:2 total and it be fine, then besides blobs why casing in so many people's tubs?

Thanks,




The equivalent would be going 1:2.5 in your case. I’m honestly not too sure why so many people use them. I used to and don’t notice a significant difference without it. It definitely doesn’t hurt, but it was just an extra step for me.🀷


I meant I mix 1.5qt with 1 qt spawn then .5qt case, but if I just did 1:2 with no casing I'd not know what to expect different...

In my mind maybe it just offers protection till the grain recovers and the myc is stronger having colonized more...

Honestly, I like simpler and don't use liner...

:stoned:


I'm sure I don't have to say this, but some varieties of psilocybe like specific casings of sand, moss, etc to trigger fruiting.
For cubes we really don't need to case, but it does assist in recovery, and depending on your casing it can help with fruiting.
Pseudo-casing with Coir/Verm is just extending your substrate basically.

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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: mushhead] * 4
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Yeah a top layer of sub is different from a real casing.

With cubes neither are necessary but top layers help a lot imo.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: A.k.a] * 2
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so apparently I've only pseudo cased...


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Pickle Rick] * 4
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Transferred some TAT Ghost from a very old, unrefrigerated plate, hoping it can make a recovery. Put some GT spores from my first grow to agar as well.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: Pickle Rick] * 3
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Pickle Rick said:
so apparently I've only pseudo cased...


:lol:

Yeah there’s a lot of tricky terminology sometimes.

Pseudo case/top layer is perfect for cubes. Tamps/pans seem to be the ones that a casing can make a huge difference but even then sometimes they do fine without it.


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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: A.k.a] * 1
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A.k.a said:
Pickle Rick said:
so apparently I've only pseudo cased...


:lol:

Yeah there’s a lot of tricky terminology sometimes.

Pseudo case/top layer is perfect for cubes. Tamps/pans seem to be the ones that a casing can make a huge difference but even then sometimes they do fine without it.


I can't seem to get my Tamps to fruit out for spores without a proper casing ime.

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Re: Post Your Cultivation Picture of The Day [Re: mushhead] * 23
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Hey friends, finally harvested my first grow :smile:





These are mazapatecs, much smaller than I expected for some reason, and when dehydrated they're even tinier, like needle-thin. Maybe the second flush will be a bit bigger. Anyone have any input as to whether or not I NEED to soak the cakes overnight, or if I can just continue misting heavily for a day or two? They're in shoeboxes with the lids removed in EZ dialed monos.


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