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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: rumfor69]
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I'm current on the validation and load penetration thread. I let the warm up occur slowly, usually takes at least 30 minutes for any steam to start escaping. I wait until it's escaping quickly, then start a 15 minute timer. Once I put the weight on, it typically takes another 20 minutes before it reaches 15 psi. I ran WBS for 90 minutes, and ran oats for 2 hours. The jars cool down in the PCer overnight before removing them.

I will up the vent time and stick to 2 hours minimum at pressure for grain. After I switch up the agar...

Edited by ruawakeyet (12/05/22 09:55 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ruawakeyet] * 1
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Bacteria doesn't spread all that quickly on agar unless you have excess moisture pooling on the surface. Colonies of bacteria will either start as small round dots and then expand radially or will smear across the surface if there is excess water from a syring or something that helps it spread.

Fermentation from soakimg isn't a misnomer  it's a well known/documented phenomenon. Literally how beer was invented.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ruawakeyet] * 1
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ruawakeyet said:
My grains don't soak, and soaked grains are sprouting, not fermenting. I think that's a misnomer that is set in stone on the Shroomery, but I'm not giving up yet.

PCing for 30 minutes instead of 20 is news to me, but I can't see how that would change anything. I'm doing pre-pour in jars, so there's no way 20 minutes at pressure isn't sterilizing everything.

In control plates that were intentionally contaminated, I saw some bacterial colonies, but they always stayed small. Plainly visible, but small. IMO, bacteria should spread quickly on agar. Stored plates never showed any signs of contamination.

For now, I have to switch up my agar nutrients, because I can't even test my SAB sterile technique unless I have agar that will readily contaminate.



I know not everyone can afford a flow hood but I got this one for about $400:

https://mycology-supply.com/products/mycology-supply-laminar-flow-hepa-filter-13-x-15?_pos=2&_sid=fd31f563e&_ss=r

They have cheaper one's here that you can build yourself for less money $329:

https://www.labrathoodz.com/product-page/flow-hood-flat-pack (Model S)

They aren't big (13"x15") but with good awareness of where my hands and plates/bags/etc are it has worked well for me...

And not one contam issue so far...

:mushroom2:


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Mushroom Cultivation Techniques...

Edited by Grogu (12/05/22 10:55 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Guerrilla] * 6
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Guerrilla said:

Lol
Yaygar



Wait until people find out what's on money

On a related note, at the start of the pandemic I tried to pay for something with cash

Cashier: "sorry we only do electronic payment, cash is kinda like a petri dish"

Me: "I don't know about that, my petri dishes are very clean"


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho] * 4
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i handle cash i always took it during pandemic people are dumb. cash is king baby.

my favorite is when people still LICK their fucking finger to count out money. i do refuse that:snub: this isnt the dark ages gross.

its always the crustiest looking jerks too.

/end.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
i handle cash i always took it during pandemic people are dumb. cash is king baby.

my favorite is when people still LICK their fucking finger to count out money. i do refuse that:snub: this isnt the dark ages gross.

its always the crustiest looking jerks too.

/end.



Lmfao, the kicker... we got plastic money up here in America's Hat


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Balance in life is like running on ice.

  πŸ…‘πŸ…žπŸ…£πŸ…£πŸ…›πŸ…” πŸ…–πŸ…πŸ…πŸ…–

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho] * 1
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we still using cotton and linen.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho] * 1
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SirPsycho said:
Guerrilla said:

Lol
Yaygar



Wait until people find out what's on money

On a related note, at the start of the pandemic I tried to pay for something with cash

Cashier: "sorry we only do electronic payment, cash is kinda like a petri dish"

Me: "I don't know about that, my petri dishes are very clean"



Flexin on the cashier :lol:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ruawakeyet] * 1
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ruawakeyet said:
I'm current on the validation and load penetration thread. I let the warm up occur slowly, usually takes at least 30 minutes for any steam to start escaping. I wait until it's escaping quickly, then start a 15 minute timer. Once I put the weight on, it typically takes another 20 minutes before it reaches 15 psi. I ran WBS for 90 minutes, and ran oats for 2 hours. The jars cool down in the PCer overnight before removing them.

I will up the vent time and stick to 2 hours minimum at pressure for grain. After I switch up the agar...



Try removing the jars and foils as soon as your safety lock drops. You don't want your filters to stay wet :thumbup:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: cozmyc] * 1
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cozmyc said:
Try removing the jars and foils as soon as your safety lock drops. You don't want your filters to stay wet :thumbup:



I did have one batch that I removed the jars as soon as the lock dropped, but I don't think I removed the foil. The lids were dry the next day when I inoculated, but wet filters could have been the issue. :homerdoh3:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ruawakeyet] * 3
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ESS blob clone, sister plate went to grain yesterday.


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Balance in life is like running on ice.

  πŸ…‘πŸ…žπŸ…£πŸ…£πŸ…›πŸ…” πŸ…–πŸ…πŸ…πŸ…–

"Mist your balls and fan your asshole" - Pandaskis, 2023

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho]
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SirPsycho said:


ESS blob clone, sister plate went to grain yesterday.



blob clone? possibly a distasteful question but why would your clone a blob? im probably missing something here. That is a nice rhizo plate though!


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: DreamEasy1111] * 1
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DreamEasy1111 said:
SirPsycho said:


ESS blob clone, sister plate went to grain yesterday.



blob clone? possibly a distasteful question but why would your clone a blob? im probably missing something here. That is a nice rhizo plate though!



For science and cause I like mutants.


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:pm:Ask about free prints: Ps tampanesis, subtropicalis, cubensis(ESS) and Pan cyanescens:pm:
Balance in life is like running on ice.

  πŸ…‘πŸ…žπŸ…£πŸ…£πŸ…›πŸ…” πŸ…–πŸ…πŸ…πŸ…–

"Mist your balls and fan your asshole" - Pandaskis, 2023

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho] * 1
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I took two of my biggest fruits and cloned them. I don’t see obvious contam but I’m wondering why some edges grow out faster than the others. Is there contain under the mycelium?  I can see a faint cloudiness just past the growth that isn’t as strong.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SunGuy]
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Take transfer(s) from the leading edge between 11 and 1 o'clock


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We don't own things - things own us.

Semi-solid liquid culture (SSLC)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ruawakeyet]
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ruawakeyet said:
cozmyc said:
Try removing the jars and foils as soon as your safety lock drops. You don't want your filters to stay wet :thumbup:



I did have one batch that I removed the jars as soon as the lock dropped, but I don't think I removed the foil. The lids were dry the next day when I inoculated, but wet filters could have been the issue. :homerdoh3:



I dont use foil at all on my jars :shrug:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: rumfor69]
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What kind of filter do you use? I'm using a polyfill stuffed hole.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Rusty2096]
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Rusty2096 said:
Take transfer(s) from the leading edge between 11 and 1 o'clock



But why?  Is there likely contain under it?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ruawakeyet] * 3
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ruawakeyet said:
What kind of filter do you use? I'm using a polyfill stuffed hole.



Oh yeah then that needs protected. I use the full synthetic disks from perfecti fungi.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: rumfor69]
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SunGuy said:
Rusty2096 said:
Take transfer(s) from the leading edge between 11 and 1 o'clock



But why?  Is there likely contain under it?



Because the rest of the plate looks sketchy to me and probably bacterial. Not 100% sure but in doubt I wouldn't send to grain just yet.



rumfor69 said:
ruawakeyet said:
What kind of filter do you use? I'm using a polyfill stuffed hole.



Oh yeah then that needs protected. I use the full synthetic disks from perfecti fungi.



You use the big tyvek looking ones if I'm not mistaken righ?

Do you think that the small sticker SFDs would also be of without foil?


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We don't own things - things own us.

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