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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SimulatedMatrix33]
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Some TCs believe enmeshed mold isn't a thing that happens and question if it's just an old false idea

Edited by rumfor69 (10/31/22 01:26 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: rumfor69] * 1
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the blue ones are all t1, the ones not in a baggy are GT. think going to make a new transfer later this week.

edit: I think the two left (small petris) from the GT petris I will toss. Don't look satisfying ^^


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Edited by Shrimps (10/31/22 09:31 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SimulatedMatrix33]
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Yes it can be normal so many things can happen : the selected piece of myc, the nutrients and recipe from one plate to another, etc.

I've had that happen quit ofter. Ryzo to Tom and vice-versa. That said, I use grain water from different grains (mostly WBS or rye) so my plates are always different each pour.

I would worry and keep transferring the tom one till you get a nice tom plate. They grow both tom and rizo to compare. You could be surprised by the results


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: rumfor69] * 2
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rumfor69 said:
Also a good TC will tell you that intermeshed mold isn't a thing



Um....Maybe I'm just not a good TC:shrug:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: rumfor69]
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rumfor69 said:
Also a good TC will tell you that intermeshed mold isn't a thing


What? how isnt it "a thing"


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Luminous7]
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ooo drama :popcorn:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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rumfor69 said:
Also a good TC will tell you that intermeshed mold isn't a thing



Um....Maybe I'm just not a good TC:shrug:


:lol: :evil:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato] * 2
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Enmeshed mold? More like enmeshed controversy.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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I've read it here a few times in TCs posts. There was one just a few weeks ago that said it. I can't recall where or who it was though.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: rumfor69]
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rumfor69 said:
I've read it here a few times in TCs posts. There was one just a few weeks ago that said it. I can't recall where or who it was though.


Nichrome, I believe. And Nichrome absolutely has checked under a microscope many times, I would bet money.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Smellyhobbit] * 1
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Yep here is his post about it

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27816788#27816788


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: rumfor69]
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rumfor69 said:
Yep here is his post about it

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27816788#27816788


Yeah but that post was from Nichrome :lol:
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Rusty2096] * 2
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I edited my original statement to sound better, sorry


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: rumfor69]
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rumfor69 said:
I edited my original statement to sound better, sorry


Boring :lol:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Rusty2096] * 1
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I just went through Nichromes replies and microscopy pictures. Nichrome is is a very capable and intelligent individual, he may be correct, but I have my doubts regarding  the "all clear"

Here are some great examples here:



Floccose growth with scalloped edges.

Although I do not know what causes this kind of  growth pattern I do know that I have a 100% failure rate when attempting to fruit tubs spawned with grains inoculated with similar cultures.

I have a 100% failure rate when attempting to transfer away enough times to change growth, it persists.

The issue with microscopy is that you're dealing with a focal plane, which I'm sure that Nichrome is aware of, perhaps further investigation is required regarding comingled organisms.

That aside, I am not the only cultivator that experiences problems with similar cultures, so I'd wager that there are things yet to discover here.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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p9hu7 said:
I just went through Nichromes replies and microscopy pictures. Nichrome is is a very capable and intelligent individual, he may be correct, but I have my doubts regarding  the "all clear"

Here are some great examples here:



Floccose growth with scalloped edges.

Although I do not know what causes this kind of  growth pattern I do know that I have a 100% failure rate when attempting to fruit tubs spawned with grains inoculated with similar cultures.

I have a 100% failure rate when attempting to transfer away enough times to change growth, it persists.

The issue with microscopy is that you're dealing with a focal plane, which I'm sure that Nichrome is aware of, perhaps further investigation is required regarding comingled organisms.

That aside, I am not the only cultivator that experiences problems with similar cultures, so I'd wager that there are things yet to discover here.


I agree with you here, maybe in that Post Nichrome was speaking on there was no mold intermeshed but thats 1 example of millions. I do find it interested that he said the weak looking formations of myc are more susceptible to contam but there is no contam present.  All i know if what ive experienced and wack looking myc that looks like it has mold hidden in it, generally always fails for me. :shrugs:

there hass to be some hidden mold sometimes, how can that just not exist at all.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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p9hu7 said:
I just went through Nichromes replies and microscopy pictures. Nichrome is is a very capable and intelligent individual, he may be correct, but I have my doubts regarding  the "all clear"

Here are some great examples here:



Floccose growth with scalloped edges.

Although I do not know what causes this kind of  growth pattern I do know that I have a 100% failure rate when attempting to fruit tubs spawned with grains inoculated with similar cultures.

I have a 100% failure rate when attempting to transfer away enough times to change growth, it persists.

The issue with microscopy is that you're dealing with a focal plane, which I'm sure that Nichrome is aware of, perhaps further investigation is required regarding comingled organisms.

That aside, I am not the only cultivator that experiences problems with similar cultures, so I'd wager that there are things yet to discover here.


Can we call these kinds of cultures retarded or is that a misnomer?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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I have some retarded cultures


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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I do some retarded things >.<

Calling a cat a cat crew here!


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: milkboy]
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milkboy said:
p9hu7 said:
I just went through Nichromes replies and microscopy pictures. Nichrome is is a very capable and intelligent individual, he may be correct, but I have my doubts regarding  the "all clear"

Here are some great examples here:



Floccose growth with scalloped edges.

Although I do not know what causes this kind of  growth pattern I do know that I have a 100% failure rate when attempting to fruit tubs spawned with grains inoculated with similar cultures.

I have a 100% failure rate when attempting to transfer away enough times to change growth, it persists.

The issue with microscopy is that you're dealing with a focal plane, which I'm sure that Nichrome is aware of, perhaps further investigation is required regarding comingled organisms.

That aside, I am not the only cultivator that experiences problems with similar cultures, so I'd wager that there are things yet to discover here.


Can we call these kinds of cultures retarded or is that a misnomer?


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