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Offlinebrewwhaha1
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substitute for agar?
    #3802747 - 02/19/05 09:58 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

is there a substitute for agar or does it go by another name? Can't find it an any of the bulk food stores /health shops where can it be found.


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #3802751 - 02/19/05 10:01 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

check asian markets as well, usualy its sold under then name agar-agar


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3802754 - 02/19/05 10:04 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

There are no Asian markets in my area. we have walmart crappytire various hardware stores etc. Its rural living out here.


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #3802954 - 02/19/05 12:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Did you actually ask at the health food store? I woulda swore our local health food store didn't caryy it, but I asked and found out they did. if they do, it will be in the oriental food section, where they sell seaweed for sushi.
Another place to try is a store that sells bulk herbs/spices.


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #3802978 - 02/19/05 12:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yes you can use BRF! Look between teh agar teks, there is DOC34's agar subsitute! Worked very fine 4 me.


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3803035 - 02/19/05 01:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

okay....im gonna get flamed but oh well.....i dont understand what the agar is used for....im guessing its used kinda like a pf cake.....and you inoculate the agar and then x-fer it to a grain....
however....i dont understand why you cant just make a normal pf cake....with BRF and inoculate that and x-fer it to wood chips....
someone explain a little on this topic


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #3803137 - 02/19/05 01:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: MontyRev]
    #3803496 - 02/19/05 04:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ok wtf you stupid moron?? :lol: before post do a search about agar its all in the faq and otherwise its in the post archive you lazy banana!! :ban:

LOL ok that was the flame you wanted just becaue you asked.. :P

What you say is true! You can trasnfer a cake to grain or woodchips. Agar is used to improve a strain. Drop a few spores on agar, watch the growth and transfer the best perforimg pieces (rhizomorphic) to new agar plates. When you have nice rhizo plates transfer those to grain.
You can also clean a  wild sporeprint. Do as above, transfer till you dont have spores left. And then to grain, or woodchips if its a woodlover.

You can also clone on agar. Take a piece of mushroom put in the petri dish on agar. Transfer a piece of rhizo to a new plate....

But actually, this must be somewhere in teh faq. :grin:


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3803534 - 02/19/05 04:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yeh yeh yeh.....i read the FAQ...im stupid......

so there really isnt any problem with innoculating a pf cake with some azures or cyans? and then x-fering to woodchips?


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: MontyRev]
    #3803603 - 02/19/05 04:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

your lost man...you need alot more reading.no offense but if you read and actually absorbed anything in the FAQ,you wouldnt ask crazy questions and you wouldnt sound like such a fool.I know that was harsh,but come one man you say in one line yove read itt,then in the next line you make it clear you dont know what your doing.maybe you should stick to growing cubes on pf cakes untill you get the hang of that,then try the harder strains.Read alot about it first.I dontr wanna flame you again bud. :grin:


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #3803892 - 02/19/05 06:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think you should inoc it with a syringe though. Plain spores wouldnt work. Which WORKS on agar.. :grin:

But azurescens will germinate on pf cake yes.


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: MushroomFriend]
    #3803916 - 02/19/05 06:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yeh i figured id have to use a syringe......forgot the name of the place that sells em though
mind puttin it up


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: BrotherJohn]
    #3803926 - 02/19/05 06:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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BrotherJohn said:
your lost man...you need alot more reading.no offense but if you read and actually absorbed anything in the FAQ,you wouldnt ask crazy questions and you wouldnt sound like such a fool.I know that was harsh,but come one man you say in one line yove read itt,then in the next line you make it clear you dont know what your doing.maybe you should stick to growing cubes on pf cakes untill you get the hang of that,then try the harder strains.Read alot about it first.I dontr wanna flame you again bud. :grin:




and brotherjohn.......just do it....come on lick my bawls.....i know u want to brother.........

flame me all you want....mushroomfiend here already told me that what im talkin about is halfway correct....maybe u should catch up on your reading a little....cause i much rather trust someone with mushroom in their name than "john"*thinks dont you take craps in johns*

yea next time i need to use the john ill PM you


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: brewwhaha1]
    #3803929 - 02/19/05 06:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

one of the sponsors sells them

but ask them how big the chance is that it is a CLEAN syringe. Since Azures often are grown outside. So the spores arent very likely to come sterile.......


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: MontyRev]
    #3804385 - 02/19/05 09:25 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:  your a riot my man.have a good  night.


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Re: substitute for agar? [Re: BrotherJohn]
    #3804858 - 02/19/05 11:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

just messin with ya brotherjohn....just hate people who like to flame genuine questions....this is a forum devoted to helping others...generally a question posted means that the information has been researched....and is not understood....thanks again for your flaming


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