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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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SirPsycho said:
Luminous7 said:
That will cook into a solid gel? Seems like it will be soup lol

I use a premixed MEA from sea weed labs and they recommend, 27.7g agar per 500ml



That's probably 10g agar agar, 10g malt extract and w/e else.

Not all agar is created equal btw. When I was using freeze dried blocks 10g wouldn't even fully disolve in 500ml. 8 was the most I could do.

Judging by how stiff my current agar turns out at 10g for 500-600ml, I'm pretty sure I could go down to 7 and still solidify.



Thats what i was wondering if he meant aswell.
Smellyhobbit said:
Luminous7 said:
That will cook into a solid gel? Seems like it will be soup lol

I use a premixed MEA from sea weed labs and they recommend, 27.7g agar per 500ml



That is super firm. For regular agar, people will use 10g per 500ml of water. For softer agar about 7g is a good space. 27ish grams of agar for half a liter of water is going to be mega firm.



10 grams of Malt extract Agar?

it is quite firm, Although at this ratio i can store blank plates for 6+ months perfectly fine at room temp.

I bet they recommend such a high Agar : Water ratio so you go through more and have to buy more from them :laugh:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: rumfor69]
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rumfor69 said:
I used that sea weed solution premix and was not happy with it



What made you unhappy with it?
Ive been using it for years with no issues, always good results.

it last me for ever to i dont have to buy again vary often and its just easy to grab it pre mixed and use. :shrug:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Dorfnob]
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Dorfnob said:
Maybe but I donโ€™t think so I feel like I used green. Usually my plates have a brownish tint from the malt.



You need yellow to make green. If your yellow is from yellow #5 (tartrazine) I'm not surprised your myc is all fucked up. Considering what it does to human. That said, that's just a late night theory not backed up by anything but my imagination.

Did you use charcoal? :shrug:

I'm cooked and can't figure this out. Someone with a functioning brain hAlp!


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Rusty2096]
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Quote:
Rusty2096 said: Someone with a functioning brain hAlp!



Just pour clear plates. problem solved. There. That's settled now.



Also, I'm pretty sure Orange is just dark Yellow and myc don't seem to fuckin care so why do we?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato] * 2
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Iโ€™m gonna make my plates so cloudy and full of sediment. Iโ€™m gonna fill my agar with color and yeast and no one can stop me.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
Iโ€™m gonna make my plates so cloudy and full of sediment. Iโ€™m gonna fill my agar with color and yeast and no one can stop me.



What color agar rebel person?

:stoned:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Grogu]
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shroomsurf said:
Smellyhobbit said:
Iโ€™m gonna make my plates so cloudy and full of sediment. Iโ€™m gonna fill my agar with color and yeast and no one can stop me.



What color agar rebel person?

:stoned:



Blue ๐Ÿ’ง


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Luminous7]
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Luminous7 said:
rumfor69 said:
I used that sea weed solution premix and was not happy with it



What made you unhappy with it?
Ive been using it for years with no issues, always good results.

it last me for ever to i dont have to buy again vary often and its just easy to grab it pre mixed and use. :shrug:



I used it for yrs also then I dunno if I got bad batches or something but all my cultures became weak and wispy. Even new clones or germination of spores. :shrug:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Smellyhobbit said:
Iโ€™m gonna make my plates so cloudy and full of sediment. Iโ€™m gonna fill my agar with color and yeast and no one can stop me.



Poutin can :lol:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Rusty2096]
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Rusty2096 said:
Dorfnob said:
Maybe but I donโ€™t think so I feel like I used green. Usually my plates have a brownish tint from the malt.



You need yellow to make green. If your yellow is from yellow #5 (tartrazine) I'm not surprised your myc is all fucked up. Considering what it does to human. That said, that's just a late night theory not backed up by anything but my imagination.

Did you use charcoal? :shrug:

I'm cooked and can't figure this out. Someone with a functioning brain hAlp!



Am I gonna have to post green plates in the spongebob meme?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: bigfootscreepyuncl] * 1
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bigfootscreepyuncl said:
Quote:
Rusty2096 said: Someone with a functioning brain hAlp!



Just pour clear plates. problem solved. There. That's settled now.



Also, I'm pretty sure Orange is just dark Yellow and myc don't seem to fuckin care so why do we?



Rusty hates coloreds :shrug:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho] * 4
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:epicfacepalm:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Egon_Spengler]
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Egon_Spengler said:
:epicfacepalm:



Omfg combined with your new avatar this is the best comment ever


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Rusty2096] * 1
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Rusty2096 said:
You need yellow to make green. If your yellow is from yellow #5 (tartrazine) I'm not surprised your myc is all fucked up. Considering what it does to human. That said, that's just a late night theory not backed up by anything but my imagination.



Green, you say? ... yellow #5, you say?

:wonka:



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Rotnpins] * 3
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you even included the bags
:rofl2:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Egon_Spengler] * 1
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Egon_Spengler said:
you even included the bags
:rofl2:



:ruggedwink:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Rotnpins]
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A question, I couldnโ€™t find the answer for.

I have multiple 500ml media bottles for my agar.
With one bottle I can make plenty of plates (for now).

But I was wondering if I could prepare multiple media bottles, PC them & store them without pouring. So I could reheat the bottle whenever I want to make more plates (without having to PC again/separate). Will save me a PC cycle in a couple of weeks?

Another question, could I make pre poured glass plates and store them (when cooled down in the PC) and store them in ziplocks? So I could use them later this week. - supposing I wouldnโ€™t  need a SAB/FH? (Bit impatient, but would like to make some plates before I finish my Flowhood this weekend).

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences/opinions.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SpreadTheSpore]
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Yes, you can sterilize multiple bottles at once and store them until needed, just make sure they are properly sealed for storage.

You can also do the same with no pours. If you're using containers with a sealing lid like half pint jars, Pasty plates, Mr Aliens holy grail they should keep just fine on their own. I use polypropylene plates and they keep a few months if I don't break the tape seal from the pressure cooker


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho]
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That was a quick & a desired reply!

To be sure:
- properly sealed media bottle (with a GL45 screwtop) = just a completely closed bottle I suppose?
- My glass plates wonโ€™t fit inside a container with a sealing lid (plates too big.. or container too small). So thatโ€™s why I thought about preparing the plates (using the TEK below) and load them from my PC, with their aluminium foil sleeve, straight into a ziplock bag, until usage.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28006384/fpart/1/vc/1

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SpreadTheSpore]
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SpreadTheSpore said:
That was a quick & a desired reply!

To be sure:
- properly sealed media bottle (with a GL45 screwtop) = just a completely closed bottle I suppose?
- My glass plates wonโ€™t fit inside a container with a sealing lid (plates too big.. or container too small). So thatโ€™s why I thought about preparing the plates (using the TEK below) and load them from my PC, with their aluminium foil sleeve, straight into a ziplock bag, until usage.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28006384/fpart/1/vc/1



Yes, just a completely closed bottle.

That should work for the plates, yes. Should be fine for a while just wrapped in cling wrap like described in the tek


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