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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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It isn't make believe to rely on people's admissions.  Guccifer 2.0, a persona of a russian GRU agent, admitted to giving the emails to Wikileaks.  That's not make believe.  You may think he's lying, but you're being 100% dishonest when you say that it's make believe.  Make believe is when someone literally makes it up.  You know damn well that neither koods nor I made up Guccifer's admission.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Enlil]
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How do you know where Guccifer 2.0 got the emails?


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Could Seymour have been lying?


I think Page 6 answers your question.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.194794/gov.uscourts.dcd.194794.268.3.pdf

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
How do you know where Guccifer 2.0 got the emails?


He admitted to hacking the DNC.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Stable Genius]
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Stable Genius said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Could Seymour have been lying?


I think Page 6 answers your question.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.194794/gov.uscourts.dcd.194794.268.3.pdf


Do you mean "I made no attempt to verify"?

His source was an FBI insider that he's known for 31 years.  He also said "It's undoubtedly true".

Could Seymour's trusted FBI source have been lying to him?  It's possible, but why would he?


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Are you seriously asking me if the CIA can be trusted?... apparently they can't be, you know, Bellingcat etc :shrug:

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Stable Genius]
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He was asked if his source was CIA or NSA or FBI

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Stable Genius]
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Sorry, I don't understand your last two posts.  Seymour Hersh has a 31 year contact in the FBI who obviously didn't represent the official FBI story.

As for the questioning, they wanted to know who Hersh's contact was that was leaking the information, and Hersh (and/or his lawyer) wasn't having it.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Lol you believe anything you want to believe


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: koods]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Sorry, I don't understand your last two posts.  Seymour Hersh has a 31 year contact in the FBI who obviously didn't represent the official FBI story.

As for the questioning, they wanted to know who Hersh's contact was that was leaking the information, and Hersh (and/or his lawyer) wasn't having it.


koods said:
Lol you believe anything you want to believe


So you think story from Hersh's FBI contact DID represent the official FBI story?

Or do you think his attorneys weren't objecting to giving the name of Hersh's contact?

I'm confused by what you think I believe that I shouldn't?


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Do you mean "I made no attempt to verify"?

His source was an FBI insider that he's known for 31 years.  He also said "It's undoubtedly true".

Could Seymour's trusted FBI source have been lying to him?  It's possible, but why would he?


Yes, when he said he had not verified the information.
So the FBI, after having searched his computer, finding communications with Wikileaks, asking for payment, decides to charge someone else?................. why would they? That's a full blown conspiracy.

:archiebunker:

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Stable Genius]
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Falcon claims both that the FBI never looked at Rich’s computer and that the FBI did look at his computer. He’s done this multiple times, sometimes in the same post.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: koods]
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The FBI must have some serious TDS.

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Falcon claims both that the FBI never looked at Rich’s computer and that the FBI did look at his computer. He’s done this multiple times, sometimes in the same post.


It was the FBI that claimed they never looked at Seth Rich's computer, and it was Seymour Hersh who said a 31 year FBI contact he knows says they did.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Stable Genius]
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Stable Genius said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Do you mean "I made no attempt to verify"?

His source was an FBI insider that he's known for 31 years.  He also said "It's undoubtedly true".

Could Seymour's trusted FBI source have been lying to him?  It's possible, but why would he?


Yes, when he said he had not verified the information.


How would Seymour Hersh, who got this information from a trusted FBI source, verify the information?

Stable Genius said:
So the FBI, after having searched his computer, finding communications with Wikileaks, asking for payment, decides to charge someone else?................. why would they?


Why would the US Government blame its rival Russia?  Is that your question?


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
koods said:
Falcon claims both that the FBI never looked at Rich’s computer and that the FBI did look at his computer. He’s done this multiple times, sometimes in the same post.


It was the FBI that claimed they never looked at Seth Rich's computer, and it was Seymour Hersh who said a 31 year FBI contact he knows says they did.


And you believe a reporter with a sketchy reputation and his single anonymous source with no supporting documentation. It’s ridiculous.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Stable Genius said:
So the FBI, after having searched his computer, finding communications with Wikileaks, asking for payment, decides to charge someone else?................. why would they?


Why would the US Government blame its rival Russia?  Is that your question?


This is straight conspiracy nonsense.  You are suggesting that a law enforcement agency would cover for the perpetrator in order to make a political rival of the U.S. look bad.  Pure make believe on your part.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Enlil]
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The FBI doesn’t investigate murders in the District of Columbia unless the victim is a federal employee.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: koods]
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I'm talking about the investigation into the hack and the perpetrator thereof...not the murder investigation.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Im saying the FBI would have no oppportunity to examine his computer


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