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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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So send me your email password so I can download all of it. Since you've nothing to hide, it shouldn't be an issue.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Enlil said:
You may think it's okay for foreign companies to steal your private documents, but I don't agree.  We're never going to agree on this because you think that the ends justify the means, and I don't.


We’re never going to agree because you refuse to entertain the argument, instead falling back on “look the US govt has to keep us safe and that means they should ________” regardless of the topic at hand.


I’ll take the q Anon dipshits over lazy appeals to authority any day, at least they’re interesting.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Enlil]
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What do emails about your grandchildren have to do with corruption?

Justify publishing personal conversations about private family matters.

It’s wrong.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Enlil]
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If I were corrupt, of course I wouldn't be ok with being ratted out.  But I'm not corrupt, and I believe corruption should be ratted out as much as possible.


How do we know you’re not corrupt? We haven’t seen your emails. It’s kinda suspicious you have to declare that you’re not corrupt. That’s exactly what a corrupt person would say.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (01/02/21 04:53 PM)

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
So send me your email password so I can download all of it. Since you've nothing to hide, it shouldn't be an issue.


That's not how Wikileaks works.  :facepalm:

Feel free to somehow get into my emails, and if (and only if) you find something corrupt, then publish it.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: koods]
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koods said:
How do we know you’re not corrupt? We haven’t seen your emails. It’s kinda suspicious you have to declare that you’re not corrupt. That’s exactly what a corrupt person would say.


Feel free to somehow get into my emails, and if (and only if) you find something corrupt, then publish it.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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But I get to unilaterally decide what is and isn't newsworthy.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Enlil] * 1
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No, not newsworthy.  :facepalm:

You get to decide what is corrupt.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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What does this have to do with corruption ? Why is this newsworthy? It’s disgraceful Wikileaks published emails like this. Assange has no principles and neither do you.

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From:paulecarres@comcast.net To: podesta.mary@gmail.com, john.podesta@gmail.com  Date: 2015-04-19 15:04 Subject: Next weekend 
   
Hi there!    Glenn said that when he spoke with John on Easter he mentioned everyone would be getting together at our house the weekend of April 24. Not sure if you are free or up for a ride in the country, but here is the plan.    Larissa and family and Michael will be here Friday. Michael, kids and I (not sure about others) are going to a spot near Warrenton Saturday afternoon where we'll meet Karen and Philip and watch the Flying Paule-Carres Brothers take the first, and most likely last, sky dive. We'll all travel back to Winchester for dinner and all will be here Sunday. There is some talk of going to a vineyard or on a hike Sunday. If you'd like to join us, let me know and I can send you more details.    Mary, give me a call when you have a chance so we can finalize our arrangements. I just heard from Sherri.they were in an accident a week or so ago. They weren't hurt, but there car sustained quite a bit of damage.its new enough and expensive enough to not be totaled.should be repaired in time for our trip.    Love to all!    Patti




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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: koods]
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The only criminal activity revealed by the DNC and podesta hacks were the hacks themselves.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: koods]
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That should be concerning to you


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Yes. Tens of thousands of private emails were stolen and published and no criminal activity was revealed. What is the newsworthiness?

And I’ll ask again for Assange defenders to defend publishing private correspondence about personal matters.


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NotSheekle said
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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: koods]
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It's easy. Anyone who isn't a bernie supporter waives all rights


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Yes. Tens of thousands of private emails were stolen and published and no criminal activity was revealed. What is the newsworthiness?

And I’ll ask again for Assange defenders to defend publishing private correspondence about personal matters.


The newsworthiness is a corrupt group of people using their allies in government/media/business to manipulate our elections.

Sure, the courts ruled that the DNC is a corporation and doesn’t owe voters anything. You can either rejoice in that or recoil in disgust.


It’s not just about Bernie, just like it isn’t just about Assange. It’s the implications and the precedents set therein, in these two cases being things we’ve long suspected to be true.

I mean you’re aware that the Hillary wing of the party used a “pied piper” strategy for Trump in the GOP primary, using their media allies to elevate him above his competitors, right?

Maybe you don’t think private corporations manipulating our elections should be illegal, it should at the very least trouble you.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Isn't that exactly what wikileaks did? They manipulated the election...


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Yes they did.


As we’ve discussed probably a thousand times, it’s incredibly difficult to get private entities out of the election manipulation game.

I don’t think it’s setting the bar too high to think it’s wrong for our political parties to do it. I don’t think making it illegal is gonna stop Democratic leadership from kneecapping progressives, but it’s very easy for me to say that it’s wrong, and that it shouldn’t happen.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
What does this have to do with corruption ? Why is this newsworthy? It’s disgraceful Wikileaks published emails like this. Assange has no principles and neither do you.

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From:paulecarres@comcast.net To: podesta.mary@gmail.com, john.podesta@gmail.com  Date: 2015-04-19 15:04 Subject: Next weekend 
   
Hi there!    Glenn said that when he spoke with John on Easter he mentioned everyone would be getting together at our house the weekend of April 24. Not sure if you are free or up for a ride in the country, but here is the plan.    Larissa and family and Michael will be here Friday. Michael, kids and I (not sure about others) are going to a spot near Warrenton Saturday afternoon where we'll meet Karen and Philip and watch the Flying Paule-Carres Brothers take the first, and most likely last, sky dive. We'll all travel back to Winchester for dinner and all will be here Sunday. There is some talk of going to a vineyard or on a hike Sunday. If you'd like to join us, let me know and I can send you more details.    Mary, give me a call when you have a chance so we can finalize our arrangements. I just heard from Sherri.they were in an accident a week or so ago. They weren't hurt, but there car sustained quite a bit of damage.its new enough and expensive enough to not be totaled.should be repaired in time for our trip.    Love to all!    Patti




I don't know.  That probably shouldn't have been released.

koods said:
The only criminal activity revealed by the DNC and podesta hacks were the hacks themselves.


Again, it's not just about criminal activity, it's also about uncovering information about war, spying and corruption that most people would find objectionable.  Politico has some good summaries here and here.


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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Enlil said:
Isn't that exactly what wikileaks did? They manipulated the election...


I think the difference is that Wikileaks manipulates elections by making voters more knowledgeable and less ignorant.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
koods said:
Yes. Tens of thousands of private emails were stolen and published and no criminal activity was revealed. What is the newsworthiness?

And I’ll ask again for Assange defenders to defend publishing private correspondence about personal matters.


The newsworthiness is a corrupt group of people using their allies in government/media/business to manipulate our elections.

Sure, the courts ruled that the DNC is a corporation and doesn’t owe voters anything. You can either rejoice in that or recoil in disgust.


It’s not just about Bernie, just like it isn’t just about Assange. It’s the implications and the precedents set therein, in these two cases being things we’ve long suspected to be true.

I mean you’re aware that the Hillary wing of the party used a “pied piper” strategy for Trump in the GOP primary, using their media allies to elevate him above his competitors, right?

Maybe you don’t think private corporations manipulating our elections should be illegal, it should at the very least trouble you.


What I find troubling is how you think you have the right to know John Podestas plans for the weekend.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Julian Assange Arrested in London [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Enlil said:
Isn't that exactly what wikileaks did? They manipulated the election...


I think the difference is that Wikileaks manipulates elections by making voters more knowledgeable and less ignorant.


The podesta emails revealed nothing the public had a right to know.

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