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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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I called my dad and thanked him. He told me to fuck off.

My old man is legit.


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A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera] * 1
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lol.

My dads a vet and always hated the “thank you for your service” shit.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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The Ecstatic said:
lol.

My dads a vet and always hated the “thank you for your service” shit.


forgot both what day it is and what thread this was
and was trying to figure out why a veterinarian would feel embittered towards people appreciating good care for their pets

:blush:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Tantrika]
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The extreme worship of the military is a byproduct of the US becoming more conservative.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: YangSupporter]
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YangSupporter said:
The extreme worship of the military is a byproduct of the US becoming more conservative.


The US was more conservative in the past, much more.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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Like back when part of the colonies fought a war to preserve slavery.

They aren’t being celebrated though. We can all agree those terrorists were stomped out for the better.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
Like back when part of the colonies fought a war to preserve slavery.

They aren’t being celebrated though. We can all agree those terrorists were stomped out for the better.


I would suggest the US is much less conservative today just based on my own 48 years of experience.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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qman said:
YangSupporter said:
The extreme worship of the military is a byproduct of the US becoming more conservative.


The US was more conservative in the past, much more.


On social issues sure but economically politicians in the depression and ww2 era in the US were much more left wing than today.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: YangSupporter]
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YangSupporter said:
qman said:
YangSupporter said:
The extreme worship of the military is a byproduct of the US becoming more conservative.


The US was more conservative in the past, much more.


On social issues sure but economically politicians in the depression and ww2 era in the US were much more left wing than today.


It's a different world today, they didn't have food stamps, welfare, public housing and Medicaid. The economic environment is significantly different for sure, I hate to put a left or right label on it.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
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Idk back before entitlement programs the US government would just give people land for moving west. Stolen Native American and/or Mexican land but still


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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The Ecstatic said:
Idk back before entitlement programs the US government would just give people land for moving west. Stolen Native American and/or Mexican land but still


Land lease act it was also way easier to be self sufficient back in those days.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: YangSupporter]
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I don't  know that easier is the correct word, but i knew what you meant.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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The Ecstatic said:
Idk back before entitlement programs the US government would just give people land for moving west. Stolen Native American and/or Mexican land but still


So you're suggesting the US government was much more to the left because it was gifting land to their citizens?  That's better than being loaded up with debt from "buying" land/house today.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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No I’m just being a smartass.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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YangSupporter said:
The Ecstatic said:
Idk back before entitlement programs the US government would just give people land for moving west. Stolen Native American and/or Mexican land but still


Land lease act it was also way easier to be self sufficient back in those days.



Lol I definitely wouldn't say it was easier they just made it look easy because taking responsibility for your own survival is a natural human instinct. back then every man knew and taught his kids how to start a fire, read a compass, track,hunt and butcher an animal, plant a garden and build a shelter. along with the idea that if you want something you work for it.that instinct and the value of self reliance is vanishing in families that get stuck in a cycle of dependence because of a failed welfare system that orignally was designed to pull you out of a rut now becomes a life time of govt reliance by design.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: 1uptoadstool]
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That is awfully cynical.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: YangSupporter]
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You just go around making shit up all the time.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Can you just smile and be grateful? It makes that persons day to be able to say that. Can we just pass on that good cheer?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
Has Jimmy Dore responded to the allegations that he took money from an Assad lobbying group while he was arguing that the chemical weapons attacks came not from Assad, but was a false flag staged by an opponent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Dore

This is the source of claim against Dore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingcat

Bellingcat appears, among other things, to be anti-Syria/anti-Russia. I don't know enough about them to judge, but that wiki article seems to indicate their journalistic research methods are rigorous.


Jimmy was definitely right to question whether the chemical attacks came from Assad.  I've written threads about this, how it would have been idiotic for Assad to use chemicals when Syria was winning the war after he had been warned not to use them, how doctors reported that victims of the latest 'chemical attacks' had only been treated for smoke inhalation, how the US bombed areas hit by the chemical attacks before an investigation could be done, etc.

Bellingcat is also a questionable source, as they are partially funded by the CIA and NATO, and support pro US Government positions.  Even Robert Parry and Craig Murray question their conclusions.


With that said, I'll agree with the Ecstatic's point that took so long to get out of him about Lava Jato; so that's one ding against Jimmy out of many years of doing the show (though a lot of people missed that one at the time it was happening).


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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So you're suggesting the US government was much more to the left because it was gifting land to their citizens?  That's better than being loaded up with debt from "buying" land/house today.



Have you ever to tried build your own house , drill your own well and deal with your own sewage ? I’ll take the debt .


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