Brian Jones said:

I'm reading mostly the opposite on Trump's polling since the inquiry/impeachment issue heated up. A lot of different sources. Just whatever comes up on my Microsoft network homepage.

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The U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, intends to tell Congress this week that the content of a text message he wrote denying a quid pro quo with Ukraine was relayed to him directly by President Trump in a phone call, according to a person familiar with his testimony.
Sondland plans to tell lawmakers he has no knowledge of whether the president was telling him the truth at that moment. “It’s only true that the president said it, not that it was the truth,” said the person familiar with Sondland’s planned testimony, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic matters
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Sondland will hold out the possibility that Trump wasn’t truthful in his denial of a quid pro quo as well as an alternative scenario in which the president’s interest in the scheme soured at a time when his administration faced mounting scrutiny over why it was withholding about $400 million in security assistance to Ukraine and delaying a leader-level visit with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky..

Hours before Sondland called the president, he received a text message from the acting ambassador to Ukraine, William B. Taylor, raising questions about the aid holdup. “I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign,” Taylor texted Sondland.

That’s when Sondland, according to the person’s understanding, called Trump, who then told him he didn’t “want a quid pro quo … didn’t want anything from Ukraine.” The call lasted less than five minutes, and Trump appeared to be in a foul mood, the person said.

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XUL said:

Art of the deal man.



I love Trump.

He does get shit done.

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koods said:

Sondland speaks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-envoy-who-denied-quid-pro-quo-now-says-he-isnt-certain/2019/10/12/4abe0902-bc19-44e8-8c38-9aa35c544859_story.html

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The U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, intends to tell Congress this week that the content of a text message he wrote denying a quid pro quo with Ukraine was relayed to him directly by President Trump in a phone call, according to a person familiar with his testimony.
Sondland plans to tell lawmakers he has no knowledge of whether the president was telling him the truth at that moment. “It’s only true that the president said it, not that it was the truth,” said the person familiar with Sondland’s planned testimony, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive diplomatic matters
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Sondland will hold out the possibility that Trump wasn’t truthful in his denial of a quid pro quo as well as an alternative scenario in which the president’s interest in the scheme soured at a time when his administration faced mounting scrutiny over why it was withholding about $400 million in security assistance to Ukraine and delaying a leader-level visit with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky..

Hours before Sondland called the president, he received a text message from the acting ambassador to Ukraine, William B. Taylor, raising questions about the aid holdup. “I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign,” Taylor texted Sondland.

That’s when Sondland, according to the person’s understanding, called Trump, who then told him he didn’t “want a quid pro quo … didn’t want anything from Ukraine.” The call lasted less than five minutes, and Trump appeared to be in a foul mood, the person said.

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koods said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Impeachment support has grown and that's what the headlines are focused on.  Popularity ratings took an initial drop which he's since recovered from.

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Bullshit

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

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koods said:

Sondland speaks

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-envoy-who-denied-quid-pro-quo-now-says-he-isnt-certain/2019/10/12/4abe0902-bc19-44e8-8c38-9aa35c544859_story.html

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The U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Gordon Sondland, intends to tell Congress this week that the content of a text message he wrote denying a quid pro quo with Ukraine was relayed to him directly by President Trump in a phone call, according to a person familiar with his testimony.

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Technically, if you read your article, he hasn't spoken yet.  A "person familiar with his testimony" has.

I'll admit this doesn't sound very good for Trump, but I remember how many times your speaking out too soon has backfired on you during Russia-Gate. 

"Yay, we got him!  Oops, false alarm"

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

For those that don't watch Jimmy Dore:

Trump approval climbs to highest level of 2019 amid impeachment inquiry.  Even 50% of independents now approve of Trump.

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IMHO you should clarify that the cited information is the result of just one poll, sample size 1000, and is two weeks old which can be a lifetime in the polling world.  Additionally, it appears that specific poll is an outlier based upon the polls aggregated by 538.  At a glance, that poll's approval rating is about 6 to 8 points too high and the disapproval rating is about 2-4 points too low when comparing it to other, similarly conducted polls.

Nice cherry-pick

koods said:

Trumps popularity rating has been between 43 and 41% for two months. It hasn’t budged.

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koods said:

Trumps popularity rating has been between 43 and 41% for two months. It hasn’t budged.

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Again, thanks for proving MY point.  I was discussing Brian Jones' comment about him "reading mostly the opposite" to the article saying "Trump approval climbs", where I replied his "popularity ratings took an initial drop which he's since recovered from."

Here's a blow up of the graph YOU provided showing the dip after Ukraine-Gate, which since went back up.  I realize this is hardly even worth arguing, but your constant "DURRR, FALC, DURRR!" needs to be put in check.

koods said:

Chris Hayes and Jane Mayer did a pretty good job explaining what it seems Guiliani and Trump were up to.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

koods said:

Chris Hayes and Jane Mayer did a pretty good job explaining what it seems Guiliani and Trump were up to.

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The video starts with Chris Hayes saying Trump wanted "to investigate a completely insane conspiracy theory that basically goes like this:  The DNC worked with Ukraine to hack itself and then frame Russia."

He got almost no laughter from the crowd, as the crowd seemed to understand that's not even close to being correct.

What is actually correct is that the DNC worked with Crowdstrike (instead of the FBI) to investigate the hacking of their servers, and Crowdstrike who has been wrong before said it was Russia.

Koods just hears Chris Hayes bash Trump about something he doesn't understand, and shares it with everyone hoping we're all stupid.

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