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Re: Rudy Giuliani - Bush 2.0 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7695573 - 11/29/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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how many people on this site felt personally threatened in any way by Saddam Hussein, other than you of course?




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Re: Rudy Giuliani - Bush 2.0 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7695621 - 11/29/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Rudy Giuliani - Bush 2.0 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7695638 - 11/29/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Rudy Giuliani - Bush 2.0 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7695784 - 11/29/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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You need to get more familiar with these journalism dopes. They are true believers.




No, they're not. If the were why would they attack Hugo Chavez every bit as much as Fox "News" does, given that he is leading the greatest example of socialist transformation & justice in the world today?




They sucked Chavez's dick until he tried this latest stunt. And, in the end, Hugo Chavez is a sideshow. Their true believerhood is for their vision of the USA. THEIR vision, not yours and certainly not mine, but they are more interested in change than in making a profit, seeing as how they are tanking badly.
Do you actually read the Times daily? I do. Every fucking day. Fox News? Hardly ever watch.
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Edit: I know many on the far right believe the New York Times is part of a Communist conspiracy to destroy America as strongly as they believe their Bible to be the infallible word of God, but speaking as an actual socialist... the New York Times is nothing of an advocate for radical social & political transformation. These people are as attacked by the NYT as they are by Rush Limbaugh.




They are not Communist, they are socialist. They are committed to creating a socialist America. They do not think it will destroy America, I do. I have no use for the bible or jesus or anything remotely like that. The NYTimes advocates socialism and political change. I never said anything about them advocating radical anything, you added that all by yourself.


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Re: Rudy Giuliani - Bush 2.0 [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7695833 - 11/29/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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At any rate, clearly what you said is a lie. Own it. Liar.




As of yet no one was has said that they felt Saddam was a threat to anyone living in the U.S. And it is not coincidental that those who would responded that he was, that more than 90% of them also feel that marijuana is dangerous to society & should be illegal & punished by a jail sentence. Why? Because the same people who believe gullibly government propaganda about "terrorism" also gullibly believe government propaganda about "drugs".




Another lie. You already admitted to Luddite. Others probably aren't around. Are you one of those idiots who think that 9/11 was a US govt job? It fucking happened. OBL did it. That was the second attack. By Islamic terrorists. Terrorists exist. They attack. It's not propaganda. Italready happened. What makes you think it won't happen again? Learn from history, grasshopper.
I don't want pot illegal. Or ANY drug at all.


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Re: Rudy Giuliani - Bush 2.0 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7696391 - 11/29/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Rudy Giuliani - Bush 2.0 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7696401 - 11/29/07 06:58 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Rudy Giuliani - Bush 2.0 [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7696712 - 11/29/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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i can tell the difference. apparently the administration cannot since they claim humanitarian reasons for the invasion of iraq.




In case you were absent that day, they claimed quite a few reasons. That was only one of them.




regardless not standing up for sudan, the genocide in haiti several years ago, and the ivory coast is not in line with the so called protecting of human rights and stopping human rights violations the administration claimed to be doing in iraq and to an extent Afghanistan.

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my original point still stands. bush adminstration = walking talking contradiction.




Only to you and certain other ostriches who were absent.




see above, it is still a contradiction even if they had other reasons.

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i mean a conservative presidency with a conservative congress for most of the two terms and we still have a 2 trillion dollar deficit.



Unfortunately what we had was obviously NOT a conservative president or congress. They were just Republicans. What does their domestic spending have to do with foreign policy? From my research, the deficit this year is going to be around $200B, 10% of what you said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/25/washington/25budget.html?_r=1&ref=washington&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin
If you mean government debt, it is much more than $2T
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_public_debt





1. domestic spending has nothing to do with the deficit. The war in iraq funded by selling debt does.
2. http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0116/p01s01-usfp.html
3. http://zfacts.com/p/461.html my bad, the debt is actually much higher at 9 trillion instead of 2 trillion.

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then going to war with two countries.



And you want 3?




No. i never said i wanted a third. i was simply pointing out situations this administration has failed to act on even though they use those reasons to justify a war in Iraq and to an extent in Afghanistan.


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increased trade with china but then increasing sanctions against cuba because they are communist.



I see no example of Bush increasing sanctions against Cuba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba




the sanctions were on travel. basically it affected people who had relatives in cuba who now have to do so under increased restrictions.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1004843,00.html

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wake up zappa bush has about as much clue about the world as a new born earthworm.






Which puts him well ahead of you.




No it puts him right up your @$$$


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