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Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included)
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if this is true, which it may not be, it scares the hell out of me.
im attaching the video from youtube that has biden and collin powels words and hints during their respective interviews or speeches. take it with a grain of salt. but ive been wondering for weeks what these guys been talking about. finally found something that mentions it.


link added P#1


http://www.europac.net/othervoices13.asp


On Oct. 19, Vice-President elect Joe Biden predicted that the Obama Administration would be put to the test by an "engineered" crisis within 6 months. Just like Kennedy. In fact, he "guaranteed" it.
Our research indicates that Russia is prepared to strike within four weeks after the new president is sworn in. When that happens, the global balance of power will be stretched to its breaking point.
Crisis Investing
The coming crisis will have a sense of deja vu. That's because we've seen the "dress rehearsal" played out last summer. Russia's invasion of the Caucasian country of Georgia was part of a larger plan. One dictated by Russia's desperate need to shore up its most important sources of foreign-currency revenues: Oil and natural gas.
According to globalsecurity.org, revenues from taxes on oil and natural gas equaled 5-6% of Russia's gross domestic product. That year, the U.S. Department of Energy estimated that oil and gas account for about 20% of Russia's GDP. On 27 May 2008, President Dmitry Medvedev stated that Gazprom, Russia's natural gas monopoly, contributes around 20% of the federal budget's revenues.
But that was at a time when oil was trading at $140... when Medvedev predicted prices of $500 a barrel. Now, crude oil prices are plummeting and are below the "conservative" estimates of $70 per barrel used by the Kremlin to budget for 2009.
On November 13, ChinaPost.com reported that Russia was forced to revise downwards its forecast for oil prices for the coming year from US$95 per barrel to US$50 "and may therefore have to alter its budget". The forecast for average oil prices in 2010 had also been lowered to US$55 per barrel and to US$60 in 2011.
Unfortunately, the trajectory of crude oil prices over the past weeks indicates that estimates of $50 to $60 per barrel may be way too optimistic: On November 13, the price of Russian oil fell below $50 per barrel for the first time since early 2007. Some experts now peg the outlook for crude as low as $10-$30 per barrel. But even prices at current levels would mean budget cuts and a sudden end to Russia's economic boom.
To make things worse, Moscow has been spending huge parts of its limited financial reserves on banking bail-outs. As of October 21, Russia's gold and forex reserves, then the world's third largest, were down $66.9 billion to $530.6 billion since early August. Between October 31 and November 7, the reserves slid another $9.2 billion to $475.4 billion. Still, they are lower than at the start of the year. In the period between October 17-24, the decline reached a staggering $31 billion. Reserves further contracted due to re-evaluation as the euro sank as well as after part of international reserves was transferred to Vnesheconombank in an effort to rescue the financial system.
Over $100 billion of reserves were spent between September and October alone, representing over 20% of total reserves. Experts estimate that Russian banks and companies will have to pay out another $115.7 billion, in addition to the $47.5 billion which is to be covered by Vnesheconombank in the fourth quarter. It's not just Russia's newfound prosperity that's melting away. It's the newfound nationalist pride of the humbled Evil Empire! It's a matter of money, of pride - and of superpower leverage!
Gas and Power
With oil prices in the dumps, Russia increasingly depends on its natural gas business. That market actually turns out to be more advantageous than the oil market. After all, oil is a fungible commodity with a global market price. Natural gas, due to its complex infrastructure requirements, is far more regional. Controlling supply in one particular region can be far more profitable than competing globally for oil or gold prices.
Over the past decade, Russia has turned its natural gas business into a cash cow. It buys natural gas from the formerly Soviet countries of Central Asia at half price... and resells it to Europe at full retail. But Europe is sick of paying full price... and increasingly suspicious of Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin!
Central Asian countries such as Turkmenistan have been chafing under Russia's patronage. A Turkmen source illustrates the seething anger: "For Russia, arguably, the game now starts all over again. First and foremost, it is no longer the superpower in the world of natural gas as was widely regarded until recently. Turkmenistan is, unquestionably, also a gas superpower of comparable muscle power to Russia."
In the Caucasus, the West is about to establish a natural gas pipeline that runs from Central Asia through Georgia. This "Nabucco Project" pipeline would bypass Russia-and cut deeply into its natural gas business. Nabucco is expected to be operational by 2013, pumping gas along 1,800 miles, from Turkey's borders with Georgia or Iran to Austria., which would then distribute the gas across Europe.
This has the potential to single-handedly destroy Russia's financial future. Putin simply cannot allow this to happen. That's why last summer the Russian army occupied the Georgian towns that would control the Nabucco pipeline: "With Georgia no longer in full control of its territory and other countries in the region reassessing their relations with Russia, the chances that the Europeans would be able to use Georgia, or count on Azerbaijan for its gas, appear slim," writes the International Herald Tribune's Judy Dempsey. And regardless of what Putin tells the press, they aren't leaving anytime soon.
One Down, One to Go
In Eastern Europe, the Cold-War era pipeline carrying gas into Europe runs through Belarus and Ukraine. Since Ukraine's freedom-loving president Viktor Yushchenko is a friend of the West - even applying for NATO membership - that section of the pipeline has become Russia's Achilles heel. That's because Russia's main "peace-time" weapon to keep down uppity neighbors is natural gas. Consider this:
  • Ukraine relies on Russia for 71% of its gas needs.
  • Hungary obtains over 80% of its natural gas from Russia.
  • The Baltic countries, Finland, and Slovakia are almost entirely dependent on Russian supplies.
  • Even Turkey receives most of its gas from Russia.
Right now, the European Union has to import 57% of its natural gas. This will rise to 84% by 2030. Much will come from Russia. And most of this gas is still shipped through that Cold War-era pipeline that crosses Ukraine. The two countries have a history of pipeline-related hostilities!
Russia's gas monopoly Gazprom has choked off gas flows to Ukraine in the past: Russia doubled the gas price for Ukraine in 2006... raised it by 37% in 2007... and by 38% this year. When Ukraine couldn't pay, they simply cut off gas deliveries. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said in June that his country may double the gas price again for 2009. In view of its budget situation and the continuing efforts to push through the Nabucco Project, Russia needs to strike again. The timing is crucial. It will have to happen when...
  • Ukraine and Europe require gas most, in the dead of winter...
  • The probability of U.S. interference is minimal, due to an inexperienced, "non-confrontational" new administration...
  • The economic situation in Europe is critical thanks to the recent financial crisis!
Guaranteed Crisis
Our research indicates that Russia will make its move after Inauguration Day (Jan. 20). Most likely, it will happen during the week between Feb. 13 and Feb. 20. Here's how it will go down:
  • Russia will double gas prices for Ukraine, quoting supply and demand. Ukraine will be unable to pay.
  • Gazprom immediately will cut off natural gas deliveries.
  • Ukraine's already damaged economy will grind to a standstill.
  • Kiev will be forced to help itself to "transit gas" destined for Europe - and threaten to cut off the pipeline that connects Russia with the European Union.
The most powerful player in this brutal game of chess will be Gazprom. Gazprom is a company so powerful it's sometimes called a "state within the state". Its former Chairman of the Board, Alexander Medvedev, is now the Russian president. The company was even granted the right to form its own armed security force to safeguard its pipelines against "sabotage and terrorist acts" that could disrupt gas supplies to Europe. Gazprom's "kontraktniki" are an army of mercenaries, recruited from veteran Russian special forces. They have tanks. They have helicopters. And they're backed up by the conventional and nuclear firepower of the Russian military...
Who else to come out swinging from an armed confrontation? But there's a hidden agenda behind this whole scenario... Russia is making the ultra long-term play. A few million in stock valuation lost today could be worth trillions in the long run: Russia wants to re-nationalize Gazprom at the lowest possible cost to the Russian government... and at the expense of Western shareholders! When they sell in a panic, Russia will buy at fire-sale prices.
Ticking Time Bomb
If Ukraine moves to block the pipeline, Gazprom's shock troops will move to "protect" their business interests. Gas prices will go through the roof the moment the first Russian tank rumbles across the Ukrainian border. And Russian stocks will collapse as investors pull out in a panic. Just as they did in August, when Russia invaded Georgia. Just as they did last October.
When that happens, Gazprom share prices will get destroyed. Don't be surprised if their U.S.-traded ADRs will lose 20%... or even 50%... in a single trading day. That's exactly the moment the Russian government is waiting for: As private investors bail out, the Kremlin will step in... graciously buying up shares for kopeks on the ruble. Hedge funds, institutions and private investors will lose billions
actually just found this article i did see both the lecture by biden and collin powell about how we will have an orchestrated crisis beginning at obamas inauguration.


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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: eatyualive]
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Yet another cut and paste job with no link.  What is wrong with you?


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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: zappaisgod]
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wow your tag says it all. wtf are you talking about?

oh wait. the article is one of those pop up windows that i couldn't figure out how to find the url link to article or i woulda posted it dood. you can read it right there.tis why i posted the article.


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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: eatyualive]
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Dood, read the rules of this forum.  If you can't figure it out don't post.  You're tag says it all.


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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Yet another cut and paste job with no link.  What is wrong with you?



I put a bandaid on his little booboo it's up to you to kiss it better

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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: Prisoner#1]
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haha finally used the ignore button. what a godsend..


too bad as well. didn't think i would ever have to use it. children these days.


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Edited by eatyualive (12/03/08 03:21 PM)

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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
zappaisgod said:
Yet another cut and paste job with no link.  What is wrong with you?



I put a bandaid on his little booboo it's up to you to kiss it better



Kissed.  Too bad the young genius couldn't figure it out.  The link is to a brokerage firm touting it's expertise.  Maybe right.  Maybe wrong.  Vote with your dough.  Or don't.


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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: eatyualive]
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eatyualive said:
haha finally used the ignore button.




dont be such a girl, this place is just one scat post away from
OTD, zappa makes a lot of valid points even when he's nit picking

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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yeah you just got to be willing to do a lot of wading.:lol:


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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: Icelander]
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I don't know why you call it wading when you are obviously in over your head.  Drowning is more apt for you.


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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: pinkfloydms]
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Edited by eatyualive (12/22/08 03:26 PM)

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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: eatyualive]
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I am so sick of these paranoid nwo clowns. Like the claim that thye threatened martial law if they didn't pass the bail out. Saying if you don't build a dam the town will flood is not the same as saying if you don't build a dam we will make it flood.

I won't even watch this trash anymore, it is put out by loons.

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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: eatyualive]
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No offense...but this doesn't sound like much of a crisis. Just the same shit thats been happening for the last 50 years. :shrug:


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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: mushroom people]
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mushroom people said:
I am so sick of these paranoid nwo clowns. Like the claim that thye threatened martial law if they didn't pass the bail out.




actually that was stated by pelosi, it left a lot for
interpretation though, it meant they'd be locked in until the
bill was passed

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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Anybody can see that the reason Russia went into Georgia is because of territory...Thats why the Bush administration  made a deal with Poland.
I believe that the Russians will invade the Ukraine right after Bush is out of office..I don't believe in this NWO crap though.


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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: nw_shroomy]
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russia didnt 'invade' georgia on a whim, south ossetia was
invaded by georgia, russia agreed to protect south ossetia, a
region that was seeking independence, it's much like desert
shield/storm, one country invades the protectorate of another
country and the one bound by treaty goes in heavily armed to
help fend off the invaders, russia did for south ossetia what
the US did for kuwait

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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: Prisoner#1]
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South ossetia is part of Georgia. They didn't invade South ossetia.South ossetia is Georgia. It would be like California trying to break away from the USA.Do you believe we wouldn't try to keep California ??
The only reason Russia cares about That spots is because they dont want the Pipeline going threw there and to  show thier middle finger at us..Its all a game..IMO


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Edited by nw_shroomy (12/25/08 03:50 PM)

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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: nw_shroomy]
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so people have no freedom in the US, seems california has
broken away from the US, they have some of the most restrictive
gun laws, more liberal drug laws and is comprised of nuts and
flakes, it doesnt matter if south ossetia is a part of georgia,
they're intent is to be recognized as independent just as Ajara
and abkhazia are, both formerly part of georgia

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Re: Biden and Collin Powell talk about orchestrated crisis? (good article included) [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Quote:
they're intent is to be recognized as independent



And thats why Georgia did what it did.
Thats not why Russia did what it did.Russia could care less about South ossetias  Independents.Russians aren't  free. Russia only cares about whats in their best interest And there best interest is if the pipe line that is planned goes through, it will Kill their monopoly of the gas in that region.IMO


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