living_failure said:

Yeah. I strongly suggest that the idea of authority as "do my will so things will be good" as antediluvian, primitive and simply wrong.

So the head should be the children, then the parent who is "less conscious" or simply put, its dumber and makes worse decisions and the least of all the most conscious and intelligent.

Most woman try to find partners for the better: taller than them (if they are supperficial), richier (materialistic), smarter(intellectual) etc...
So its traditionally common for the man to be suitable to be the "head" role.
Nowadays education system is working better for women and they are as good (if not more) mature and intellectually educated than the male partners.
So. it makes more sense than the children should be at top and parents bottom.


But most men are sexually dominant and most women submissive, so, do as you please in bed but keep your fetishes away from your childre n. Do not dominate yor partner outside bed and do not pick a partner who you consider inferior just for sexual gratification.
Thats the problem with most men, the high libido makes them have dominant sexual attitudes outside the bedroom which is humilliating mostly to them

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DividedQuantum said:

Historically, and for thousands of years, almost everyone would agree with you. Just look at our language. Mister and missus. Mister is a corruption of "master" and missus is a corruption of "mistress." Feminists would tell you that this is evidence of a repressive patriarchal society, but that begs the question: Have people throughout history been totally delusional, and only in the last hundred years have we discovered the truth? Or does the twentieth century represent a perversion of sound human values and historical concepts of virtue? That is what Nietzsche talked about a lot with his concept of slave morality. One should be all for women's rights, but perhaps we're missing the point.

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qman said:

Today is a perversion in my opinion because it has gone overboard. The problem stems from many women claiming they want "equality" of the sexes, but then behaving completely different in real life.

Many people are so arrogant to believe that humans to going to intellectualize themselves out of billions of years of biological evolution for the sake of "equal rights".

Ultimately, many women like any of demographic want to use the narrative of victimization to have their cake and eat it too, it's only natural to want it all at the expense of others.

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pacmanbreed said:

indeed Everything that is flesh is a mere clothes. The way i process it is that being a head simply means leading with a good heart, together with great patience and giving esteem & consideration towards the fragility of a woman, that must recieve honor as a equal half of a man.

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Duncan Rowhl said:

pacmanbreed said:

indeed Everything that is flesh is a mere clothes. The way i process it is that being a head simply means leading with a good heart, together with great patience and giving esteem & consideration towards the fragility of a woman, that must recieve honor as a equal half of a man.

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I treat each case subjectively.

When I hear of the unwritten rule; 'never hit a woman', I'm forever reminded of a butch woman in Tenerife, shouting at her poor kid poolside, instructing her to do another length weilding a knife.

She was handled forcefully by a man and rightfully so.

A vagina isn't a 'get out of jail' card.

You are the person you are.

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I can relate well. Its indeed subjective.

WE experied the same chaos for years when we are younger, just as my parents had experienced in the past.(matt10:34-35)
Until We are shaken by a sudden experience of great grief.(num14:18, mat19:14)
Where i had a change of heart realizing my own shortcoming. If a mouth has a tongue, so as a fist have a mouth.  It all boils down from the heart.(prov21:9, jame3:5, col3:18-19, mat5:21-22)
And both parents share equal responsibility and struggles in terms of discipline(foundation) for the well being of thy child. Specially in this era of societal pressure.

Was also glad to see my parents now doin well with their respective loving family.

qman said:

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A male that isn't somewhat dominant in the relationship loses all respect from the female.  I've seen it a millions times, in fact, that female will likely stop having sex in the marriage when she doesn't respect him anymore.

Feminism and this "equality" of the sexes is destroying traditional family values and marriages today, which is causing children to have unstable upbringings.

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I totally agree with the perception.But the absolute is too much.

Most women, (maybe 99% i don't think there will never be a study)lose sexual interest in their sexual partner as soon as he shows weakness. That means not that all women do that. What it means is that there is no a implication, but a correlation.

So. I see the death of intelectualism and virtue and the arrival of postmodernism and the consumism as the cause.

This is a slow rome burnning show. Enjoy the ride, honk honk

qman said:

A male that isn't somewhat dominant in the relationship loses all respect from the female.  I've seen it a millions times, in fact, that female will likely stop having sex in the marriage when she doesn't respect him anymore.

Feminism and this "equality" of the sexes is destroying traditional family values and marriages today, which is causing children to have unstable upbringings.

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living_failure said:

Most women, (maybe 99% i don't think there will never be a study) lose sexual interest in their sexual partner as soon as he shows weakness.

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laughingdog said:

On another level, there are those who think part of the value of a relationship, with a life long partner, is the chance to grow together, through working thru issues. It would seem folks are very different as to whether they can even conceive of such a goal, let alone be capable of putting it into practice, with a partner with the same capabilities and desire.

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RJ Tubs 202 said:

qman said:

A male that isn't somewhat dominant in the relationship loses all respect from the female.  I've seen it a millions times, in fact, that female will likely stop having sex in the marriage when she doesn't respect him anymore.

Feminism and this "equality" of the sexes is destroying traditional family values and marriages today, which is causing children to have unstable upbringings.

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Very interesting - I'm speechless. Almost.... What dominate male traits maintain female respect and sexual interest?

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RJ Tubs 202 said:

living_failure said:

Most women, (maybe 99% i don't think there will never be a study) lose sexual interest in their sexual partner as soon as he shows weakness.

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I'm interested in this perspective. Can you provide some common examples?

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qman said:

What about toxic femininity?  Not going to hear about it.

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