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    #5993648 - 08/24/06 07:04 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Gender is merely the result of duality, a failure to transcend into singularity.

There is a state of consciousness where one can identify themselves with that which transcends pairs of opposites.

Duality is not the nature of reality, but rather the nature of our experience of reality.


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Re: Gender [Re: RRRR]
    #5993796 - 08/24/06 07:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

What about hermaphrodites....?   

I would say that duality is the reality of nature's physical experience....    :wink:


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Re: Gender [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #5993804 - 08/24/06 07:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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What about hermaphrodites....?   

I would say that duality is the reality of nature's physical experience....    :wink:


>^;;^<




Middle-sex is a prime example of the failure of natural physical experience to illustrate a clear cut gender division.


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Re: Gender [Re: RRRR]
    #5993809 - 08/24/06 07:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Dharma and Greg is an example of the transcendence of duality into singularity.


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Re: Gender [Re: RRRR]
    #5993937 - 08/24/06 08:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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PhanTomCat said:
What about hermaphrodites....?   

I would say that duality is the reality of nature's physical experience....    :wink:


>^;;^<




Middle-sex is a prime example of the failure of natural physical experience to illustrate a clear cut gender division.




There is always a thin stripe of grey, right where the black and white meet and bleed/blend together....    :thumbup:
The grey zone is the uncertainty zone....  A metaphorical purgatory, if you will - in the context of physicality....

Does the "grey zone" have to be a point, a line, or a stripe before any illustration is no longer a "clear cut division"....?


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Re: Gender [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #5994006 - 08/24/06 08:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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There is always a thin stripe of grey, right where the black and white meet and bleed/blend together...




Only to human eyes from a distance. If you looked closer you'd see there is a dividing line and no grey. I guess this is a metaphor for some humans stopping at the surface, for being satisfied with what is apparent.


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Re: Gender [Re: RRRR]
    #5994321 - 08/24/06 09:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Gender is merely the result of duality, a failure to transcend into singularity.

There is a state of consciousness where one can identify themselves with that which transcends pairs of opposites.

Duality is not the nature of reality, but rather the nature of our experience of reality.




you make a good point with the singularity and duality.
you're clearly missing the concept of the trinity though.

there are 2 physical genders, but there are 3 metaphysical genders.
The Man
The Woman
The Child, which is neither and both.
(also physically an embryo is both and neither, bound to womanhood)

yes, there is a level of consciousness where we become the third gender, and this is the Mystery called sub rosa, which i'm prepared to explain with great detail if anyone is interested.


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Re: Gender [Re: Telepylus]
    #5994406 - 08/24/06 10:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

most guys, that I know, love girls who are gender neutral.... by that I mean those girls who dont talk about ponies, whine, spend 2 hours in the bathroom everyday, dont harp on about marriage and cry constantly... you know, a stereotypical woman.

Also, women like men who aren't incredibly stereotypicly male, or gay-like overly emotional.... again, gender neutral.

I dont think there is some evolutional or spiritual problem pertaining to experiencing duality and whatnot... but rather becoming rooted and believing you are cemented into your own gender and begin to act that way, mainly by repetition and copying others you admire of that gender.


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Re: Gender [Re: RRRR]
    #5994422 - 08/24/06 10:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Gender is merely the result of duality, a failure to transcend into singularity.

There is a state of consciousness where one can identify themselves with that which transcends pairs of opposites.

Duality is not the nature of reality, but rather the nature of our experience of reality.


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Re: Gender [Re: RRRR]
    #5994590 - 08/25/06 12:02 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The experience of duality is not a "failure to transcend into singularity", it is merely an incomplete recognition of the ultimate nature of things. Even this implies too much inadequacy, for there is nothing inadequate about our understanding at all. What more can be expected of talking monkies a mere 10,000 years in to their own collective self-awareness? Looking upon the whole of human history on the scale of a single entity, what human beings are now resembles a marginally self-aware infant in pursuit of shelter from the cold. From this point of view, the words "failure to transcend into singularity" are far too damning, far too heavy. Everything is on track and is proceding along a natural course.

Things exist as dualistic phenomenon. There is male, female, light, dark, life, death, you, me, etc. What's missing in this is a special insight in to the underlying unity significant of these objects. Without pluralism, nothing can exist at all. This necessity of duality means that all opposites are two expressions of one phenomenon: in fact it's pluralism which is the very foundation of oneness and union. It's because we have polarity that we have supreme unity. It's because of duality that there is a whole. A deep realization of this undermines all bases for conflict or negativity, and immediately cuts the root of suffering. It is the foundation of real compassion.


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Re: Gender [Re: wilshire]
    #5994598 - 08/25/06 12:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Gender [Re: RRRR]
    #5994630 - 08/25/06 12:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

In physics, the fleshes become one. In metaphysics, the pneumas become one like water.


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Re: Gender [Re: Basilides]
    #5995208 - 08/25/06 07:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

How is duality the nature of the experience of reality, and not the nature of reality

male/female is dual, not singular, and there is no experience of reality for this to be, it simple is by nature, unless your talking the experience of xx and xy chromosomes being manipulated to produce a sex, then I guess on on chromosomal level duality is the result of the experience of reality,

but math simple is the nature of reality as mathematical concepts are there in which we relate to our reality, and mathematics has properties dealing with singularity, duality, on to infinity, math simple is by nature, in which we exist, without it we wouldn't have no concept of our existence.


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Re: Gender [Re: capliberty]
    #5995234 - 08/25/06 07:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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How is duality the nature of the experience of reality, and not the nature of reality

but math simple is the nature of reality as mathematical concepts are there in which we relate to our reality, and mathematics has properties dealing with singularity, duality, on to infinity, math simple is by nature, in which we exist, without it we wouldn't have no concept of our existence.



Maybe it's both, considering that the universe can be understood as dualistic, and so can our understanding of it be.

I think I understand why you're talking about math because I had the same ponderance concerning the reasoning behind sexes. Why do genders have to be a representation of reality? Sexes and the concept of sex in general is evolutionarily important. It's how we share our strengths and further our species as a whole.


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Re: Gender [Re: The_Hobbit]
    #5995332 - 08/25/06 08:53 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Sexes and the concept of sex in general is evolutionarily important

I don't doubt that people think this but why is evolution important? Evolution is math. Math is what defines the parameters of our existence. As math determined out of billion possibilities of conditions that only one set of parameters was suitable for our existence to occur. What I'm saying is that our concept doesn't necessarily need further defining for evolution does this naturally without us being concerned with it.


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Re: Gender [Re: RRRR]
    #5995337 - 08/25/06 08:57 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

> Gender is merely the result of duality, a failure to transcend into singularity.

How do you explain asexual reproduction?


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Re: Gender [Re: Seuss]
    #5995671 - 08/25/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I'm speaking in a strictly metaphorical, mythological manner.


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Re: Gender [Re: RRRR]
    #5995764 - 08/25/06 11:47 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Gender is merely the result of duality, a failure to transcend into singularity.

There is a state of consciousness where one can identify themselves with that which transcends pairs of opposites.

Duality is not the nature of reality, but rather the nature of our experience of reality.




One body, one mind..
One mind, several bodies... (fe-/male)

Did you know that the moon and the sun, got the same size? [Seen form earth.]

As moon is small, and close.
And, sun is big, and far away,.. They balance each-other, looking the same.

Thus we get polarity, even there.

You do not see this to often,..
Say I was a space/time traveling explorer, and had seen 30 000 civilizations, form, evolve, devolve, "what ever" ...

I'd dare say, this earth is FUCKING unique!

It is just the arrogance ...


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