Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

MagicBag Grow Bags
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Original Sensible Seeds Feminized Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |  [ show all ]
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
    #26059623 -

There is no "design" to biology, nature doesn't work in that fashion.  The reason why female and male sexes exists is purely for survival/reproduction and nothing more.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: qman]
    #26059840 -

i don't know what you mean by nature doesn't work in that fashion. ?

certainly there is a correlation between structure and function in nature.
-this speaks to physical structures.

there is also design to the immaterial/non-physical.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
    #26059955 -

There is no plan behind the end result or design. Nature doesn't have an objective, it just is.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: qman]
    #26060127 -

i agree, that nature just is,

however, there is structure in nature.

the logarithmic spiral is the force of nature acting on matter.

the phenomenon doesn't have to be attributed to "conscious design"

but it does indicate a community of process imposed by the operation of universal laws.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: thealienthatategod]
    #26062121 -



this goes with my comment above


--------------------
:brainfart: _ :finger:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: redgreenvines] * 3
    #26062912 -

biologically speaking, yes men and women have different roles. women can bear children & men can't. outside of that, who cares? anyone can be really good at anything, despite their biological sex. we've evolved so far past nature. why limit our species based on arbitrary, imaginary divisions like gender roles?

as far as the "head of the family" idea goes; i would never want to have a wife subservient to me. good relationships take teamwork. the idea of a "head" (& the nuclear family) is outdated imo.


--------------------
you're not the first to set foot here, just another
===================================
i love glass petris & you can too!!
posts i constantly refer back to
new to mushroom cultivation?? read this!!
===================================

🅃 🄴 🄰 🄼    🄲 🄻 🄸 🄽 🄶 🅆 🅁 🄰 🄿

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: hazyhorse] * 1
    #26063336 -

hazyhorse said:
biologically speaking, yes men and women have different roles. women can bear children & men can't. outside of that, who cares? anyone can be really good at anything, despite their biological sex. we've evolved so far past nature. why limit our species based on arbitrary, imaginary divisions like gender roles?

as far as the "head of the family" idea goes; i would never want to have a wife subservient to me. good relationships take teamwork. the idea of a "head" (& the nuclear family) is outdated imo.


"outside of that, who cares"

It goes beyond just having sexual intercourse and giving birth to a child.

"we're evolved so far past nature"

No we haven't, just some people like to fool themselves into believing that false narrative for their own benefit.

"arbitrary, imaginary divisions like gender roles"

When it comes to gender roles raising children, there's nothing arbitrary about it. Evolutionary biology doesn't care about gender roles and people's fears that it's sexist in nature.

A person can attempt to intellectualize themselves out of accepting basic human biology, but at the end of the day nature wins the debate. There's more to a female than just a vagina and there's more to a male than just a penis.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: qman]
    #26064657 -

Quote:
qman said: When it comes to gender roles raising children, there's nothing arbitrary about it. Evolutionary biology doesn't care about gender roles and people's fears that it's sexist in nature.

There's more to a female than just a vagina and there's more to a male than just a penis.


would you have a problem with a family where the mother is the bread winner while the male was a stay-at-home father?


--------------------
you're not the first to set foot here, just another
===================================
i love glass petris & you can too!!
posts i constantly refer back to
new to mushroom cultivation?? read this!!
===================================

🅃 🄴 🄰 🄼    🄲 🄻 🄸 🄽 🄶 🅆 🅁 🄰 🄿

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: hazyhorse]
    #26064843 -

I think what he is implying isn't about his own opinion but about the biology or psychobiology. This is even if he, you or me don't care about who is taking care of the children, maybe the natural biopsychology in the children/father/mother will. And it might be not only interesting, but morally an imperative to try to find the truth.



Coming back to main topic. The head should be tge children and the parents the servants. the authority should be the one serving and the children the lords. The one who gives orders should be in risponsability and servitude of those who obey in order for a systen to be flawless.
As this is ideal, just try to do your best to those under you and your best to trust those over you and to be honest about your position

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: living_failure]
    #26064983 -

living_failure said:
I think what he is implying isn't about his own opinion but about the biology or psychobiology. This is even if he, you or me don't care about who is taking care of the children, maybe the natural biopsychology in the children/father/mother will. And it might be not only interesting, but morally an imperative to try to find the truth.



ah, maybe. i don't disagree that there are inherent differences between the sexes, i just don't think those differences mean a woman has to be a subservient house wife while a father provides for a family. we're more dynamic than that in my opinion.


you raise an interesting point about children being the head. parents should guide their children (punishment for bad behavior & rewards for good & so on) so that their children learn good values, but parents should also listen to their children closely to help find what is best for them instead of blindly forcing their will on their child.


--------------------
you're not the first to set foot here, just another
===================================
i love glass petris & you can too!!
posts i constantly refer back to
new to mushroom cultivation?? read this!!
===================================

🅃 🄴 🄰 🄼    🄲 🄻 🄸 🄽 🄶 🅆 🅁 🄰 🄿

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: hazyhorse]
    #26065020 -

Yeah. I strongly suggest that the idea of authority as "do my will so things will be good" as antediluvian, primitive and simply wrong.

So the head should be the children, then the parent who is "less conscious" or simply put, its dumber and makes worse decisions and the least of all the most conscious and intelligent.

Most woman try to find partners for the better: taller than them (if they are supperficial), richier (materialistic), smarter(intellectual) etc...
So its traditionally common for the man to be suitable to be the "head" role.
Nowadays education system is working better for women and they are as good (if not more) mature and intellectually educated than the male partners.
So. it makes more sense than the children should be at top and parents bottom.


But most men are sexually dominant and most women submissive, so, do as you please in bed but keep your fetishes away from your childre n. Do not dominate yor partner outside bed and do not pick a partner who you consider inferior just for sexual gratification.
Thats the problem with most men, the high libido makes them have dominant sexual attitudes outside the bedroom which is humilliating mostly to them

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: living_failure]
    #26065070 -

Doesn't that just suggest that male and female are complimentary forces of a fundamental, single being?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #26065172 -

Duncan Rowhl said:
Doesn't that just suggest that male and female are complimentary forces of a fundamental, single being?


That's a common idea. can you elaborate please?. I want to know in this case why.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: living_failure] * 4
    #26065470 -

living_failure said:
Duncan Rowhl said:
Doesn't that just suggest that male and female are complimentary forces of a fundamental, single being?


That's a common idea. can you elaborate please?. I want to know in this case why.


When we refer to 'man' with plural intention, it suggests mankind. From this we can gather that the human is ultimately treated is a singular entity, regardless of gender on the material surface.  This is certainly true for many theological texts.

All the traits of those genders therefore would be considered surface level and therefore meaningless, in contrast to the heart of the human which is said to be rooted to God - or God the root and the heart the flower, to consider it another way.

Deep spiritual experiences are often garnered from relinquishing the ego.  By doing so, all traits are forgotten and quite often, knowledge of our very gender is a distant, forgotten aspect too.

Therefore, we could consider our genders herein mere clothes in a stage play with very little significance beyond...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: Duncan Rowhl] * 1
    #26066860 -

indeed Everything that is flesh is a mere clothes. The way i process it is that being a head simply means leading with a good heart, together with great patience and giving esteem & consideration towards the fragility of a woman, that must recieve honor as a equal half of a man.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #26067078 -

pacmanbreed said:
indeed Everything that is flesh is a mere clothes. The way i process it is that being a head simply means leading with a good heart, together with great patience and giving esteem & consideration towards the fragility of a woman, that must recieve honor as a equal half of a man.


Well said.

I agree.

To me, women who take a traditional role are heroes in this day and age.

I tell my woman that too. She agrees as well.


--------------------
TRUMP 2020

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: XUL] * 1
    #26067158 -

A hero and a precious gift for a man :thumbup:. I have seen a great difference in my own family as a husband vs from the one i grew up with.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: pacmanbreed] * 1
    #26067280 -

What kind of difference?


--------------------
TRUMP 2020

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: XUL] * 1
    #26067397 -

Great difference, as a child growin up from fully disfuncitional broken family with a lot of physical, verbal & chaos, though with great material wealth. to its opposite in my current one With order & tranquility together with my beautiful Traditional partner, a precious gift that should be cherish as a Head..proverbs 19:14.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Who should be the head of a family? [Re: pacmanbreed]
    #26069106 -

sounds like jordan peterson has a friend in XUL


--------------------
:brainfart: _ :finger:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |  [ show all ]

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Original Sensible Seeds Feminized Cannabis Seeds

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Margaret Mead, Society & Gender Roles RebelSteve33 17,229 11 01/25/03 12:08 PM
by Anonymous
* adopted children equal to biological children?
( 1 2 3 all )		 JCoke 3,354 48 02/19/09 10:18 PM
by Poid
* Human Gender Reconcilliation After 2012
( 1 2 3 all )		 question_for_joo 5,162 44 12/11/07 10:59 AM
by gbeatle
* Towards a Philosophy of Family *DELETED* Lakefingers 833 5 06/16/07 07:02 PM
by figurine
* Why does God have a Gender? (Christian Example, all gods of gender open to debate)
( 1 2 3 all )		 Psychoactive1984 5,025 50 03/07/05 05:47 AM
by MarkostheGnostic
* Gender RRRR 1,624 17 08/25/06 11:47 AM
by Gomp
* Gender Role Enforcement
( 1 2 3 all )		 Veritas 4,082 45 12/01/05 02:27 PM
by Veritas
* Bush Wants Kids Taught 'Intelligent Design' In Biology Class
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )		 DiploidM 14,492 102 08/10/05 12:54 AM
by MushmanTheManic

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
3,813 topic views. 0 members, 294 guests and 47 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.032 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 18 queries.