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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman]
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i agree with you there. just really disgusting to see this happening to families of enlisted men and women.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Environmental factors are more important than genetics.



wikipedia seems to think it's between 57-73% heritable by age 18.

koods said:
Things like learning multiple languages, intellectual and visual stimulation, musical training, etc during a person’s formative years will increase their intelligence.



Education and training will certainly help you to perform higher on an intelligence test, but it will have absolutely no impact on your general mental ability factor once basic needs are met during development.

There have been many attempts to find a way to raise intelligence beyond its genetic limits and so far there hasn't been any way to do it permanently. They do raise it temorarily, but every time it ends up running into the fade out affect.


koods said:
Nutrition and health is crucial.



This is true. This was discovered after Word War 1 when IQ testing in the US military started. At the time soldiers in the army scored the same as prison inmates on intelligence tests. The government started adding iron to flower, and iodine to salt, and by WW2 the Military had a much higher pool to select from.

Also on this topic this workshop discusses adding iron to the food supply in Africa to try and raise the average IQ. That is a policy I would 100% support and based on studies from WW1 would almost certainly help those who aren't getting the nutrition they need.

koods said:
Look at the IQ map. You think it’s a coincidence that the lowest IQ countries straddle the equator?


I do not think it is a coincidence, but countries along the equator are some of the most resource rich countries on earth. So simply being located next to the equator doesn't mean the land has no natural endowments to feed their populations with. Can you think of any other possible reasons why proximity to the equator may influence intelligence? I have heard another hypothesis suggesting the warm climate causes parasites to be more prevalent which could have an effect. I suppose like the hookworm case that could cause malnutrition.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods] * 1
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The whole point of mentioning that was just to illustrate that those standards aren’t enforced. America hasn’t been enforcing immigration laws for a very long time. You can have all the high and lofty requirements you like.

They look good on paper, but if they’re never enforced then they don’t matter anyways. If you can skip the line just getting through the southern border, and you know democrats will move mountains to keep you in America, then all of the lovely requirements you just listed are pointless.

Marco Rubio even tried to say illegal immigrants who got citizenship would have to pay back taxes, but it’s all lies. There are so many exceptions and options for appeal that they could easily get out of it with lawyers from the ACLU and SPLC fighting any kind of immigration enforcement tooth and nail.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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Trump broke a deal with us, so let’s fuck the world.

That is insane.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: vault123]
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When you’re running a country, you don’t have a luxury of being able to just stop negotiating because you don’t like how it went the first time. I do not think that is a winning position, but who knows. Maybe it is. I guess we’ll see at the next election if they keep digging their heels in about this.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: vault123] * 2
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Did everyone hear the great news!!!  Migrants from Africa are now flooding over the US southern border.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/surge-african-migrants-arriving-us-southern-border/story?id=63764050


https://www.npr.org/2019/06/18/733615889/u-s-southern-border-cities-brace-for-surge-of-african-migrants

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/record-number-of-african-migrants-coming-to-mexican-border

Let them all in, lets officially turn in US into a third world shithole. Diversity is our strength.  :flowstone:

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman] * 2
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be afraid! be very afraid! fear is what makes this country great, again.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
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split_by_nine said:
be afraid! be very afraid! fear is what makes this country great, again.


A country that no longer enforces its own immigration laws is no longer a nation state.

Flooding migrants from Africa and Central America into the US is officially going to destroy this nation. We don't have the resources to even take care of our own citizens, never mind of all these migrants.

Lets turn the US into a third world shithole and establish true equality for US citizens relative to the rest of the world. 

Who even cares at this point, let them all in today. Hell, Africans can't even manage their own population growth at this point.

Dear Africa, please send 100 million broke African migrants with no money, skills, education or language ability to the US ASAP!!!  We will accept all of them, we want to self destruct our own nation.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman]
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yes and yes! blaming migrants for my own shortcomings is what makes me proud to be American!

no matter how unsuccessful I am, I can sleep at night knowing its the fault of migrants and none of my own!


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
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split_by_nine said:
yes and yes! blaming migrants for my own shortcomings is what makes me proud to be American!

no matter how unsuccessful I am, I can sleep at night knowing its the fault of migrants and none of my own!


That's a strawman argument, I know many multi-millionaires that don't want to see their nation destroyed with illegals. They actually care about the future of their children and grandchildren.  They understand the destruction that is taking place because of these policies, even though it isn't affecting them personally.

Do you have any original arguments other than spewing the typical MSM/liberal talking points?  I mean really, it's too easy to dismantle the false narratives.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman]
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im not arguing. im on your side!


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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lets blame migrants! maybe we can chant it together! ill start... no maybe you'd like to start!

your qualms are with your beloved usa gov't. not with me.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
yes and yes! blaming migrants for my own shortcomings is what makes me proud to be American!

no matter how unsuccessful I am, I can sleep at night knowing its the fault of migrants and none of my own!


I dont see qman blaming any of problems on immigrants, if i remember correctly he presents himself as a college graduate who is most likely upper middle class. Didn't you say that you live in poverty?

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Lets turn the US into a third world shithole and establish true equality for US citizens relative to the rest of the world. 

Who even cares at this point, let them all in today. Hell, Africans can't even manage their own population growth at this point.

Dear Africa, please send 100 million broke African migrants with no money, skills, education or language ability to the US ASAP!!!  We will accept all of them, we want to self destruct our own nation.



:lol: :lol: :lol:  look at melty mcmelterson puddling up like a Hershey bar on a Georgia summer day

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
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split_by_nine said:
4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy


Complete bullshit at every level. Only a fool would buy into that nonsense.

Bringing in broke, unskilled, uneducated people does NOT create economic prosperity for 99% of the population.

Why do you fall for economic propaganda from The Elite?  You do realize they're the one's spewing that nonsense, right?

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: relic]
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MagicMush123 said:
I dont see qman blaming any of problems on immigrants



qman said:
Flooding migrants from Africa and Central America into the US is officially going to destroy this nation.


all you have to do is read his comments


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman]
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isnt it funny that you compmetely disregard evidence if it doesnt comply with your xenophobic rhetoric lol

now if that was brietbart reporting, youd be more convinced.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
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MagicMush123 said:
split_by_nine said:
yes and yes! blaming migrants for my own shortcomings is what makes me proud to be American!

no matter how unsuccessful I am, I can sleep at night knowing its the fault of migrants and none of my own!


I dont see qman blaming any of problems on immigrants, if i remember correctly he presents himself as a college graduate who is most likely upper middle class. Didn't you say that you live in poverty?


I NEVER blame the migrants themselves and have ALWAYS stated I would be doing the same exact thing if I was in their predicament.

My issue has always been with the refusal (of The Elite) to enforce the current immigration laws.

I have two nieces with over 100k in student debt, they don't need to be competing in a labor market flooded with legal/illegal immigrants and they don't need to be paying for all of their social services for the next 50 years.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman] * 1
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its not a competition if your nieces are the most qualified for the job they desire


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