koods said:

One behind a pay wall

Isn’t the times fake news?

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Quote:

President Trump is right: There is a crisis at the southern border. Just not the one he rants about.

There is no pressing national security threat — no invasion of murderers, drug cartels or terrorists. No matter how often Mr. Trump delivers such warnings, they bear little resemblance to the truth.

But as record numbers of Central American families flee violence and poverty in their homelands, they are overwhelming United States border systems, fueling a humanitarian crisis of overcrowding, disease and chaos. The Border Patrol is now averaging 1,200 daily arrests, with many migrants arriving exhausted and sick. Last week, a teenage boy from Guatemala died in government custody, the third death of a minor since December. As resources are strained and the system buckles, the misery grows.

Something needs to be done. Soon. Unfortunately, political gamesmanship once again threatens to hold up desperately needed resources.

On Wednesday, the White House sent Congress a request for $4.5 billion in emergency funding to help manage the surge. In a letter to lawmakers, the acting director of the White House’s budget office, Russell Vought, sought to convey the scope of the challenge. “In February, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) encountered more than 76,000 illegal border crossers and inadmissible aliens, and in March that number exceeded 100,000 — the highest monthly level in more than a decade,” Mr. Vought wrote. He described what he said were “alarming numbers” of women and children jammed into Border Patrol stations never intended as long-term shelters.

Funding for vital services is not expected to last through the fiscal year, Mr. Vought said. Most urgently, the program that deals with unaccompanied minors is expected to run dry next month, requiring resources to be diverted from other programs and leading to a further deterioration in conditions.

While the request is light on specifics, it does draw some important outlines. Nearly three-quarters of the funds, $3.3 billion, would be earmarked for humanitarian needs, with much of it flowing to the Office of Refugee Resettlement, the agency responsible for unaccompanied minors. None of the money would go toward Mr. Trump’s border wall.

Several hundred million dollars would, however, go toward shoring up border security operations, including increasing the number of detention beds overseen by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE. This, for Democrats, is a nonstarter.

The debate over the permissible size of the detainee population has grown white hot. Democrats contend that the president brought this housing crisis on himself with his push to scoop up as many noncitizens as possible, rather than prioritizing those considered dangerous, as previous administrations did. Instead of asking for more money, Democrats assert, ICE should redirect existing resources to the border.

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Detention beds were a sticking point in this winter’s budget negotiations as well, ultimately resulting in a convoluted compromise no one seemed to understand. Since then, the issue has festered as the administration has adopted policies that will further swell the detainee population, such as last month’s order for immigration judges to keep more migrants locked up while their asylum claims are processed, rather than allow them to post bail.

The Democratic chairwoman of the House Appropriations Committee, Nita Lowey of New York, said that the administration was seeking billions of dollars to “double down on cruel and ill-conceived policies” and bail out ICE for locking up more migrant families than it could humanely accommodate. But until better policies are in place, Democrats need to find a way to provide money for adequate shelter.

Democrats have other, lower-level concerns as well, such as ensuring that the Office of Refugee Resettlement is not used as an enforcement agency or that the contractors and facilities used to care for children meet certain standards. As a condition of handing over additional billions, they are likely to push for at least modest increases in oversight. They should aim to keep such tinkering as narrow and targeted as possible. If the White House is serious about needing the money, it should be prepared to agree to a few conditions — and convey the need for flexibility to Senate Republicans.

As for the clash over detention beds: Knowing how toxic the matter is, the White House would have been wise to leave it out of a request it needs to advance quickly, postponing that battle for a another day. Both sides need to dial back the fighting words, resist the temptation to finger-point and find a creative way through this minefield.

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qman said:

"Refugee Resettlement"

1. They're almost all economic migrants, not genuine refugees.

2. The first country that a genuine refugee enters is now responsible for them, not the second or third.

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Tantrika said:

qman said:

"Refugee Resettlement"

1. They're almost all economic migrants, not genuine refugees.

2. The first country that a genuine refugee enters is now responsible for them, not the second or third.

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So since they are economic migrants rather than "genuine refugees," they are free to move on to the second or third country?
suppose that would make sense as to why the Democrats want to get them into taxable citizens
rather than furthering the crisis of individuals in inhumane accomodation with funds appealed for as being for humanitarian purposes

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qman said:

...
Theoretically...they're not allowed to immigrant into the US.

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Tantrika said:

qman said:

...
Theoretically...they're not allowed to immigrant into the US.

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Then the logical step would be to put more funds towards processing and approving/rejecting their cases
rather than increasing the number the government is paying to house and care for?

Or are immigrant prisons run for profit like citizen prisons down there?

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qman said:

Tantrika said:

qman said:

"Refugee Resettlement"

1. They're almost all economic migrants, not genuine refugees.

2. The first country that a genuine refugee enters is now responsible for them, not the second or third.

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So since they are economic migrants rather than "genuine refugees," they are free to move on to the second or third country?
suppose that would make sense as to why the Democrats want to get them into taxable citizens
rather than furthering the crisis of individuals in inhumane accomodation with funds appealed for as being for humanitarian purposes

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No, economic migrants = illegal immigrants, therefore no entry into the US.

Theoretically, all Mexicans and Central Americans could be labeled economic migrants. That's why they're not allowed to immigrant into the US.

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Shenmue said:

What the fuck are you talking about lmao! You want someone like Bernie to get in for free school, healthcare and other free shit but you think trump supporters are lazy 🤨? At least trump supporters want to pay for their own shit! Hillary, Bernie and trump were all bad choices for president. None of them should be president! Hillary and Bernie are political assholes that have been in the system for year's. Trump is a fucking billionaire that's never lived in the real world. Who in their right fucking mind would want any of these people to be president! It just drives me crazy how you guys think Hillary and Bernie wants to help us! They dont give a FUCK about you! They never have! They're in a club and you're not fucking in it! Hillary and Bernie have millions! Do you think they got that money from helping the public! What fucking world are you living in!

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qman said:

Tantrika said:

qman said:

...
Theoretically...they're not allowed to immigrant into the US.

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Then the logical step would be to put more funds towards processing and approving/rejecting their cases
rather than increasing the number the government is paying to house and care for?

Or are immigrant prisons run for profit like citizen prisons down there?

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I agree, fast track the rejecting of their cases. Therefore no issues housing them and no accusations of inhuman conditions.

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Shenmue said:

That has to be the most ignorant thing I've seen on shroomery yet. Half the country voted for trump! So 50% of the country can't pass a drug test 🤣?  I know a ton of successful people that voted for him. There's no wall going up and basically nothing has changed so what the fuck are you so angry about lol?

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koods said:

Trump supporters want the government to give them a job. A job they aren’t qualified for because they can’t pass a drug test. Get an education so you don’t have to work in an dead end industry you stupid lazy fucks.

You ever see the VICE report on West Virginia trump supporters? They had to subtitle some of what these morons were saying because their English is so terrible. Trump supporters are the bottom of the barrel. I honestly wish airlines would just dump their toilet waste instead of saving it in tanks so when real Americans have to fly over trump territory to get to the economically viable (liberal) parts of the country we could literally piss on them. Yes. I have 100% contempt for these scum.

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