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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: Shroomerquest]
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Shroomerquest said: The system here makes you a bigot


no. your personality makes you a bigot


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: JHOVA]
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JHOVA said:
birthright citizenship is a major problem. theres over 300,000 babies being born every year from that. chinese are exploiting this in the us. https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/31/asia/chinese-birth-tourism-arrest/index.html


Koods doesnt care about americans. he makes no distinction positively towards native born and foreigners. xenophilia in a sense. worship the foreign for no reason at all.

we wont know exactly how many illegal aliens are in the country until the census is done. until then the number is anywhere from 11 million to 30 million. thats a lot of people.

every dollar spent on illegals is money not spent on citizens. we arent a priority in some states. illegals are.


Koods has been indoctrinated from a very young age to despise US citizenship.

"worship the foreign for no reason at all"

Oh, there's a reason for sure. It's a tradition for his tribe to do so. It wouldn't matter is he lived in Mexico, Canada, Brazil, or Australia. It would be the same rhetoric for the same rationalizations.

The goal is to weaken the native population and to create as much social-economic chaos as possible.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
its easy to understand because its not true.

your amount of benefits is based on your income amd family size.

its not based on how many people are using welfare benefits at the time.

you would know this is if you had ever used welfare, which im sure you've never. i have.


You're not getting it, social benefits of all types could increase if there's less people using it. You're trying to use a short term example to make your case, when in reality this is a long term situation.

You do realize budgets are made on a yearly basis?

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman] * 1
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do you realize that Immigrants are drawn to America’s labor markets, not to welfare benefits

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Welfare and entitlement programs are generally intended to aid the poor and support the elderly, but only some Americans and immigrants fall into those categories. In another section of my study, we compare poor and elderly immigrants who meet the poverty and age requirements for those programs with native-born Americans who are also eligible. In this section, immigrants consume 27 percent fewer benefits than native-born Americans. 



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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
do you realize that Immigrants are drawn to America’s labor markets, not to welfare benefits

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Welfare and entitlement programs are generally intended to aid the poor and support the elderly, but only some Americans and immigrants fall into those categories. In another section of my study, we compare poor and elderly immigrants who meet the poverty and age requirements for those programs with native-born Americans who are also eligible. In this section, immigrants consume 27 percent fewer benefits than native-born Americans. 



Hmm, that's pretty disingenuous when they start comparing SS benefits. SS credits are earned over time, of course natives would receive higher SS payouts.  :facepalm: The failure to mention this fact and to make an argument based on this reality is truly pathetic. In fact, there's a limit to how many credits a person can earn and benefit them.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman]
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ss benefits are the entitlement programs. only those who paid in are eligible.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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Withholdings for taxes and SS made to Fake ss# will likely never be collected by the tax payer.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: Shenmue]
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Shenmue said:
relic said:
Shenmue said:
What the fuck are you talking about lmao! You want someone like Bernie to get in for free school, healthcare and other free shit but you think trump supporters are lazy 🤨? At least trump supporters want to pay for their own shit! Hillary, Bernie and trump were all bad choices for president. None of them should be president! Hillary and Bernie are political assholes that have been in the system for year's. Trump is a fucking billionaire that's never lived in the real world. Who in their right fucking mind would want any of these people to be president! It just drives me crazy how you guys think Hillary and Bernie wants to help us! They dont give a FUCK about you! They never have! They're in a club and you're not fucking in it! Hillary and Bernie have millions! Do you think they got that money from helping the public! What fucking world are you living in!



Your posts make you seem pretty young and uninformed, but that's neither here nor there.  At least you're passionate!!!1!!1!!!!1!!

It shows significant ignorance to lump Bernie in with Hillary in relation to anything more than both of them being politicians. 

While stupid Americans consider them both to be on the left, Hillary was pretty far right in actuality.  And?  She's old news, bruh.


koods says that west Virginia is full of retarded people and that trump supporters can't pass a drug test but I'm the one that sounds immature lol. He's 100% a internet troll. All he's doing is getting more people to vote for trump.


Young =/= immature. I was young and knew everything there was to know at one time (lulz) but I wasn't immature, just ignorant.

I addressed you and your assertion that Bernie and Hillary are at the least similar and at the most the same.  Koods gonna do koods but he didn't assert that two dissimilar politicians were alike.

Thats all.  NBD

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Withholdings for taxes and SS made to Fake ss# will likely never be collected by the tax payer.


We get it, the IRS is complicit in the "Fake ss#" for big business in the US. They also have the audacity to brag about it.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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You must’ve misunderstood because of how I said it.

I didn’t mean a bigot literally but rather sound like a bigot or a racist for even mentioning inequality and favouritism of foreign nationals over homeless citizens.

It’s what people here deal with when it comes to things like social housing and benefits.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: Shroomerquest] * 2
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As we increasingly more towards becoming a spacefaring race I honestly don’t see there being any other direction we could take other than us adopting a singular world government with no boarders. I’m not saying this change will come quickly, but I can assure you it will be the general trend of things.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: SARAtonin]
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Gross. There’s already enough minorities.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
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Minorities don’t exist anymore,
Only rich and poor.

But do go on fighting over scraps,
That’s no concern of mine.


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
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Ecstatic wrote that with a heavy dose of sarcasm.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: relic] * 1
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No shit. :tongue:


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-threatens-deport-millions-beginning-week-63777377

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/18/trump-deportation-illegal-aliens-1367012

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman]
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Yeah I saw he talked about an upcoming ICE operation, and now that he’s done it absolutely nothing will happen.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: qman] * 1
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i know you dont like undocumented people getting access to welfare programs..

but what do you say to this:

One of the U.S. military’s largest private-industry landlords falsified maintenance records, Reuters found, helping it secure incentive fees as families awaited repairs. The company’s actions, a former employee said, were akin to “bank robbery at a corporate level.”

its stories like this that are really more devastating to me than to hear about some people having access to food stamps or health care


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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Yeah I saw he talked about an upcoming ICE operation, and now that he’s done it absolutely nothing will happen.


Deportations weren't going to happen regardless of Trump's popularity.

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Re: Closed or open borders? [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
i know you dont like undocumented people getting access to welfare programs..

but what do you say to this:

One of the U.S. military’s largest private-industry landlords falsified maintenance records, Reuters found, helping it secure incentive fees as families awaited repairs. The company’s actions, a former employee said, were akin to “bank robbery at a corporate level.”

its stories like this that are really more devastating to me than to hear about some people having access to food stamps or health care


Governmental waste and corruption is hardly justification for more mis-allocation of resources.

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