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Re: How long do i need to be off my antipsychotic medication before i can smoke DMT [Re: Northerner] * 2
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Northerner said:
I highly recommend against using DMT if you have a psychotic predisposition. There's a good chance it'll fucking shred your mind, spit you out and then laugh at you. The experience itself is pure insanity, it's not mana from heaven.

People with completely stable psychology often experience trauma, derealization, and other negative consequences from DMT use. The potential for it to go horribly wrong for less stable people is quite high.

Probably best to avoid it.



Doctors are wrong a lot. 3 doctors diagnosed me with schizophrenia even after i told them it was induced by butane hash oil...they told me even that were true, i would need meds the rest of ny life. So they put me on Invega and i took it for like 5 days and stopped smoking weed and i got my mind back. If i listened to them i would be on all sorts of antipsychotics. They also had me on thorazine which turned me into a zombie. I only used it during those 5 days for sleep. The best choice i ever made was taking matters into my own hands


Point? You know your body best.


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Re: How long do i need to be off my antipsychotic medication before i can smoke DMT [Re: vinnylo]
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vinnylo said:
Ok they are molecularly they are but effects on the human body is what I mean dude. Come on you know this...


Nope the effects on the human body are extremely similar considering I just explained how they’re orally active dmt. The effects are longer because your gut has to process it, other than that they’re extremely similiar.

Also my mushroom trips feel exactly like a less intense stretched out dmt trip..to me in every way especially molecularly they are very very similar, again considering the molecule is quite literally an orally active form of n n dmt.


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Re: How long do i need to be off my antipsychotic medication before i can smoke DMT [Re: The lurker]
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Just came across one (or another one) of the papers mentioning the five half-lives rule of thumb in one of the phase 2 MDMA trials.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6247454/pdf/10.1177_0269881118806297.pdf

Page 1296, first paragraph under procedures:

"Psychiatric medications were tapered by the study physician and discontinued at least five half-lives before MDMA administration."

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Re: How long do i need to be off my antipsychotic medication before i can smoke DMT [Re: HeadbandOG]
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Dude this happened to me though I was psychotic it was a reaction to Wellbutrin which the same clinic prescribed me less than 24 hours previous. They decided I needed haldol because of the psychosis despite having a boxed warning saying that it will cause seizures with haldol. Could have given me a dose of say Olanzapine and I'd be healthy today but no. Planning to sue the clinic for the cost of my medical bills over the past year which have exceeded $30,000. Best part of it is that when I consulted with a panel of 13 psychiatrists they concluded that my psychosis was purely drug induced and not a psychiatric issue.

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Re: How long do i need to be off my antipsychotic medication before i can smoke DMT [Re: Northerner]
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Northerner said:
but it turned out to just be a headfuck of immense proportions. Don't think that because you have tripped hard many times you have it down already, it has a way of humbling the unwary.



Yep, that sums it up pretty well.

For anyone curios, try oral low doses/micro-dosing syrian rue/mimosa hostilis lemon tea. 2-mimosa:1-rue ratio.

1g rue + 2g mimosa isn't something to scoff at. Pretty strong imho.


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Re: How long do i need to be off my antipsychotic medication before i can smoke DMT [Re: korgoth]
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Avoid DMT like the plague if you have psychotic tendencies. The thing with psychosis is once you’re gone you’re gone. If you go too far out to sea you could lose your point of reference and really end up in the weeds.

At the very least, for someone with like schizotypal or schizoid type personality disorders, I’d be highly cautious and conservative in my drug use. Things like Amphetamine, PCP, THC and DMT are probably absolute no-no’s.

Some of us can not afford to give the knot of sanity the slightest tug, let alone blow it to smithereens expecting to figure out how to re tie it later. 

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Re: How long do i need to be off my antipsychotic medication before i can smoke DMT [Re: CountHTML]
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CountHTML said:
Things like Amphetamine, PCP, THC and DMT are probably absolute no-no’s.


I agree, if cough medicine with pseudoephedrine gets you rilled up, stay away from the aforementioned.


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Re: How long do i need to be off my antipsychotic medication before i can smoke DMT [Re: Andre]
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Andre said:
How long do i need to be off my antipsychotic medication before i can smoke DMT



This sounds like deliberately taking your safety belt off before drunk driving.


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