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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods]
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"The only way to save the world is through socialism, but a socialism that exists within a democracy; there's no dictatorship here."

Hugo Chavez


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: vault123] * 1
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He was right in the sense that when oil prices were high democracy worked fine becasue who’s not gonna vote for that guy spreading the wealth. Of course now democracy is impossible in Venezuela if you are a person like maduro with no wealth left to grease the wheels.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods]
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Socialism is incompatible with democracy.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods]
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Somethings gonna happen.....current government denied a billion dollar gold withdrawal via Bank of England. Increase in US sanctions..... money will dry up, and we will buy them.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

Edited by SirTripAlot (01/29/19 06:05 PM)

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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Thundermuscle75]
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Thundermuscle75 said:
All this blaming of capitalism for the failures of communism/ socialism never seems to take into account that at it's height, 1/3 of the worlds population lived under communism. Those communist regimes meddled in other countries bussiness as much as anyone else.


Do you have any good examples to share of Soviet actions that hurt capitalism?

Thundermuscle75 said:
The bleak, misrerable Soviet Union that Koods visited was not a little snowflake in a frying pan. It was a superpower.


And yet the majority of Russians say they'd like to go back to Soviet times.

:shrug:


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Enlil] * 2
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Enlil said:
Welfare isn't socialist in any way.


Sure it is. Republicans still think FDR was a communist.

Nearly every humanistic government program, social security, unemployment compensation, government aid to the poor, worker's compensation for injuries, etc., all have their orgins in the platforms of socialist parties in Europe.

In modern times when we differentiate between socialist and communist, socialist generally refers to a society like Sweden. Every country's  economy on earth is a mixed economy. Socialists just change the ratio in that mix.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Enlil] * 2
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Enlil said:
Socialism is incompatible with democracy.


So is capitalism.


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Edited by shivas.wisdom (01/30/19 06:46 AM)

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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
And yet the majority of Russians say they'd like to go back to Soviet times.

:shrug:


Bulgaria when last polled felt the same as I understand it.

Of course, the U.S. has substantial military outposts there now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian–American_Joint_Military_Facilities


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Thundermuscle75 said:
All this blaming of capitalism for the failures of communism/ socialism never seems to take into account that at it's height, 1/3 of the worlds population lived under communism. Those communist regimes meddled in other countries bussiness as much as anyone else.


Do you have any good examples to share of Soviet actions that hurt capitalism?
Well they helped run capitalism out of eastern Europe and most of Asia. They did not weaken it as a whole because it is a stronger system.
Thundermuscle75 said:
The bleak, miserable Soviet Union that Koods visited was not a little snowflake in a frying pan. It was a superpower.


And yet the majority of Russians say they'd like to go back to Soviet times.

:shrug:


I chock it up to nostalgia. The communist apologists love to claim that Communism was only horrible under Stalin because he was so evil.

Most Russians however have a positive view of Stalin.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/29/in-russia-nostalgia-for-soviet-union-and-positive-feelings-about-stalin/%3famp=1

Humans are known to look back fondly on historical periods, especially the time of their youth. We tend to hold on to fond memeories and let the bad slip away.

This is why MAGA works. It invites one to imagine the historical era when one sees America as greatest and promises to bring us back
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/make-the-sixties-great-again/481167/


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Thundermuscle75]
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It could be nostalgia.  Or it could be the fact that everyone once had a guaranteed job if they were willing to work, a house, free college, free healthcare, etc.  That doesn't sound too bad even for someone not feeling the nostalgia.  :shrug:


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Edited by Falcon91Wolvrn03 (01/30/19 11:05 PM)

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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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OMG.  Is this for real?

Bolton threatens to send Maduro to Guantánamo if he doesn't step aside and allow the US's choice of leader to take over Venezuela.

It's Bolton that needs to go to Guantanamo.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Bolton goes to Guantamo all the time, right before he takes his family on vacation in Havana. He's got some prospective properties there, you know, for when Trump let's him know that we are in good relations with Cuba again.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Did you see his little note about sending troops to Columbia? He’s exactly the kind of person trump blames for our problems and now he’s running the show.

Bolton goes to Guantanamo to get his rocks off waterboarding prisoners that have been there for 15 years


Edited by koods (02/01/19 10:03 PM)

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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods] * 3
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God damn that mustache is ridiculous


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods] * 3
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he's a ghoul, for sure

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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: ballsalsa] * 2
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Bolton, Cheney, Wolfowitz and Trump are the three horsemen and the guy on a pony of the apocalypse


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods]
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I've seen Michael Bolton in concert three times.

This is what we do for those we love.


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Enlil]
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That’s his twin brother


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: koods] * 1
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He has Trumps smile!


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Re: US supports Venezuelan coup attempt - "Totally not meddling" [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
OMG.  Is this for real?

Bolton threatens to send Maduro to Guantánamo if he doesn't step aside and allow the US's choice of leader to take over Venezuela.

It's Bolton that needs to go to Guantanamo.


Holy shit. I hope people are paying attention to what's going on here. It's really unsettling. I cringe every time I hear Mike Pence speak on the subject of Venezuela. It's crazy that we haven't heard a peep out of him in all of his time in office (that I've noticed), yet now he decides to throw in his half a whit, and make America look even dumber.


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Edited by Bigbadwooof (02/02/19 01:30 AM)

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