>>Still nobody has given any other alternitives to the United States action, and every response I get is an attack of one phrase or so of my post. I have posted my reasons for war. I look forward to someone posting their reasons against it, in cival manner appropriate to such an important issue. Any takers?
I like your style. when people take one line from your post and then just dispute that and ignore the rest no matter how valid it may be, it really pisses me off. It always seems to happen here too, which is why i dont come here much anymore.
With that said, i'll tell you why i don't support the war.
This war will cause more harm than good, and all the motives for this war have not been made clear to the american people or the world for that matter. It's that simple, and infact it has already started.
One reason i believe that this will have a negative affect is because it's divided all our alliances(cept a few) our government has confirmed alot of the worlds views on americans and their leaders. The majority of the world finds us to be arrogant, oil hungry, war mongers. Thats bad, world relations are important for many reasons, and we can't just brush off the whole rest of the worlds opinions. It will create problems in the future for sure. and these are just our "allies" i'm talking about.
The arab nations on the other hand hate america more than ever. except for kuwait, i'm pretty sure every other nation in the middle east has condemmed this attack...since muslims attack us, we only attack muslim nations. This is what arabs see and they probably feel like this is a religious thing, so that only makes matters worse. the US attacking iraq is only adding fuel to the fire and causing the cycle of violence to grow.
Some say this is part of the war against terror..OK, well it's not going to help. It's only causing more hate towards the US from arab countries who see us invading muslim nations systematically regardless of what the world thinks is right. The US government/army is reinforcing a huge wave of hatred in the middle east that is directed at americans. So basically what we are doing once again is adding fuel to the terrorists' fire...it will now be easier than ever for them to use propaganda to recruit more terroists who hate the USA even more than the previous terrorists did. I believe if you are for the war in iraq you are also indirectly for terrorism, because this war will justify terrorism to alot of young arab men.
Another reason i disaprove of this war is because i really won't feel any safer if saddam is dead...i think the only way he would sell WOMD to terrorists is if he was pushed into a corner and had no other choice, knowing he was going to die soon...That's what's happening right now obviously. He knows he's going to die, so now he really has nothing to lose. If we werent at war with iraq, i dont think he would sell these weapons to people like bin laden because if he did..and the terrorists used them, it would be traced back to saddam and he would face certain war and death. Our intelligence agencies would be able to trace something like this back to him and he knows it...of course now he has nothing to lose and arab terrorists hate us more than ever...so who knows what will happen now? maybe it's why they raised the threat level.
Another thing that is very clear to me is that this will not solve all our problems...this war on terror will just go on and on if we keep trying to deal with it by bombing countries. A war on terror is something that can't be "won" The USA will never be able to wipe out all the terrorists no matter how many billions of dollars they spend on dropping bombs. The war on terror is basically set up to be a endless conflict that will go on forever if we keep giving terrorists reasons to hate us. It's exactly like the isreal/palestinian situation, only on a much larger scale. they bomb us...we bomb them..etc etc and both sides claim to be retaliating the whole time. That is just two very small countries and has it ended yet? NO! so, basically i think this is just the beginning of a long cycle of violence.
The last reason i don't support the war is because to me the motives seem to be fake. Ok...yes saddam is a bad dictator and he mistreats his people...this is wrong of course. But there are dozens of nations with dictators that are just as bad if not worse than saddam. So why are we just going for saddam and not all the horrible leaders around the world? What sets iraq apart from say...N Korea? it's quite simple really...iraq has the second largest oil reserve on the planet. OIL..that's the difference. A country like N Korea which is a MUCH larger threat to us than iraq, is flaunting it's nuclear missles and saying they arent even going to bother having and diplomatic realations with us..they basically told us to fuck off when the US offered them food and energy aid if they'd give up their nuke program. N Korea could nuke american cities, and their leader is a crazy evil dictator just like saddam. But our government ignores the real threat and goes after saddam...and thats typical. This war isn't about freeing the iraqis or getting rid of his crappy weapons(if he even has any) the motives for this war are vengence(for bush cuz saddam tried to kill his father), OIL, and approval ratings, cuz everyone knows that wartime presidents do well at the polls(that is, if they win the war...which is another reason we arent going after N Korea...we'd probably lose unless we nuked them)
Now...as far as i can tell the only reason to be FOR the war is because A. saddam is a evil guy who tortures people and does generally bad things to his people. B. He might have WOMD C. He broke the UN resolution.
those are good reasons...but i don't think they justify war. It's really very poor short term thinking to think this war will help us.
What i suggest we do is this. Stop bombing arab nations.....We need to work with these nations through more diplomacy and we need to be fair and rational with them(we can't just turn a blind when isreal levels a town of palestinians) We should help these countries with more aid and make sure that the people in those countried know where it's coming from.
Then we need to stop wasting billions on these wars and creating more terrorists and instead put that money towards aid for other countries and for homeland security to protect in case any terrorists do try to attack. We also need to put some of this money into better international intelligence to further guard against terrorism.
Combining good iternational relations with these arab nations and providing aid for them so they trust us a little more will most likly help more than bombing iraq. Meanwhile increased intelligence and better security will guard our country while arab-american relations are repaired.
As far as saddam goes...we should have listened to the rest of the world and stuck with inspections. We should just monitor him closely and keep him contained like we have been doing. I don't think he's as dangerous as some people think...he's pretty old and shit now and hopefully will die of old age soon enough.
On the other hand..though we could asassinate him or help train a coup...of course this is illegal according to the UN, but so is theis war...Plus! we have made the UN and irrelevent organization recently...so hey, what the hell! It still makes more since than starting a war to kill one guy.
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