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Two Minutes Hate (A Two-Part Skepticism of the Framing of The Screaming Libtard Festival)
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part 1

so on the anniversary of Trump's election win, people decided that they'd scream to the sky in helpless (as they call it) protest, calling to impeach Trump, but sans the words used to make such disclaimers.

tell me all, does this reification of whining into full being, make much hope for a cause? or does this make left-leaning folk in politics look feebleminded and almost ironic in their plasticity to the reigning powers that be.

http://archive.is/7ydcw
Thousands of Americans Will Scream Helplessly at the Sky on Trump's Election Anniversary

The scream event is certainly a one-of-a-kind protest, but it isn’t the only unique demonstration created in the wake of Trump’s election. Residents of Washington, D.C., flocked to Vice President Mike Pence’s house and threw a dance party celebrating the LGBT community. Nationwide, groups also are finding new ways to engage with their representatives, including baking cupcakes for Republican lawmakers when they derail Trump’s conservative agenda


of course, this is only one "scream fest" out of many to do Two Minute Hates, around the country, planned at this time.

how do you'll feel about such a display? is it effective strategy? will it work? only time will tell.

Edited by akira_akuma (11/11/17 07:56 AM)

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Re: Two Minutes Hate (A Two-Part Skepticism of the Framing of The Screaming Libtard Festival) [Re: akira_akuma]
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part 2

how does this scream fest represent the left, in a semiotic fashion? what does it signal to us?

here is an attempt of someone on the left, exposed, in their bias, trying to insert said bias into a wiki article. seen here




how can we prevent this sort of equivocation in the framing in our societies media and in the social strata of our population?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing

some interesting notions, for sure, considering the media affluence so readily available for consumption.

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Re: Two Minutes Hate (A Two-Part Skepticism of the Framing of The Screaming Libtard Festival) [Re: akira_akuma]
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here is another great example of social framing

see here: this propaganda was devised to make people think Karl Popper is some avowed leftist, and he just would HATE the alt-right, or something to that effect- the over all message is more important anyway...Karl Popper - intellect - is on MY SIDE.

but here is how the truth looks in comparison to the framing provided by the propagandist.

here you see the post in question
and the picture in question



now see how it paints a picture of Karl Popper and of propaganda?

now let's look at Karl Popper's own testimonials regarding the framing here.


“I remained a socialist for several years, even after my rejection of Marxism; and if there could be such a thing as socialism combined with individual liberty, I would be a socialist still. For nothing could be better than living a modest, simple, and free life in an egalitarian society. It took some time before I recognized this as no more than a beautiful dream; that freedom is more important than equality; that the attempt to realize equality endangers freedom; and that, if freedom is lost, there will not even be equality among the unfree.”

this is a quote from Karl Popper. a true and vibrant one. and one that exposes the untruth of the propaganda in question.

framing.

now you can see in my post here

that Karl Popper's paradox can be equally applied to those the propagandist might, ironically, side with, like anarchists, or anti-fascists, whom also are "intolerant" people- and whom are "tolerant" to the point of "intolerance", by allowing their own ranks to be stymied by the very notions they are supposed to be against, such as private wealth, for example.

and this notion might even roll over into "the liberals are TOO TOLERANT, they allow the free speech of fascists!" (so-called) "so hence, we must stop the liberals from allowing such tolerance!"

ok, so now, who are the bad guys here?

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Re: Two Minutes Hate (A Two-Part Skepticism of the Framing of The Screaming Libtard Festival) [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
here is another great example of social framing

see here: this propaganda was devised to make people think Karl Popper is some avowed leftist, and he just would HATE the alt-right, or something to that effect- the over all message is more important anyway...Karl Popper - intellect - is on MY SIDE.

but here is how the truth looks in comparison to the framing provided by the propagandist.

here you see the post in question
and the picture in question



now see how it paints a picture of Karl Popper and of propaganda?

now let's look at Karl Popper's own testimonials regarding the framing here.
...


What about the framing involved in the rest of the quote that appears after the comic'd portion?
Quote:
Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise....


:thatsinteresting:

Quote:
...But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. ...


:thatsinteresting:



Quote:
...We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.


https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/25998-the-so-called-paradox-of-freedom-is-the-argument-that-freedom

:thatsinteresting:

so incitement to suppression or violence against a group for expressing ideas better countered through debate
would fall where in his estimation

:filosoraptor:

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Re: Two Minutes Hate (A Two-Part Skepticism of the Framing of The Screaming Libtard Festival) [Re: Tantrika]
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amazing. it's like...i can see clearly now, the rain, it's fucking gone.

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Re: Two Minutes Hate (A Two-Part Skepticism of the Framing of The Screaming Libtard Festival) [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
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akira_akuma said:
part 2

how does this scream fest represent the left, in a semiotic fashion? what does it signal to us?

here is an attempt of someone on the left, exposed, in their bias, trying to insert said bias into a wiki article. seen here




how can we prevent this sort of equivocation in the framing in our societies media and in the social strata of our population?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framing

some interesting notions, for sure, considering the media affluence so readily available for consumption.


It represents that instead of intelligently protesting a cause they deem worthy they decided to throw out an invitation to a scream fest, accomplishing nothing. To prove a point I chose to not research this and watch the videos you posted. The only way we could determine what this protest is about was reading their signs, anti-Trump... what a surprise.

We can't prevent it because it is already happening in the media and has taken off like a rocket ship. It's the monkey see monkey do mentality. I'm sure we've all seen the "Election Night" media meltdowns on Youtube, Doomsday provocations and the saltiest of salty tears.

It's well known liberals are usually at the top of the hierarchy in our adult social structures. They always go with the popular trends and bully anyone who thinks differently than they do. Basically, they're the smart ones who know everything and you're a dumb redneck who chews tobacco and fucks his sister and a massive racist. Similar to how grade school works. You see that sort of rhetoric being put out by those media outlets and even good old Fox News is guilty of always finding liberal agenda supporters who don't always know what they're talking about or don't like guns or whatever conservatives don't like.

My rule of thumb is to watch MSM news as entertainment not to be taken completely seriously. I generally just avoid forming my opinions and remember to avoid using their talking points unless I've done my research and said point was/is a good one.


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Re: Two Minutes Hate (A Two-Part Skepticism of the Framing of The Screaming Libtard Festival) [Re: LRG]
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indeed. i used to watch this shit on acid, and just laugh my ass off. good times.

but now it's SERIAL.

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