Tipote said:

Race hatred gets us nowhere except fighting, war and genocide and its what Nazis thrive off, I think violence against Nazis is ok (when they mobilise) because violence has been shown to be most effective in the past and the hatred they propagate only fuels more violence. Debating gives a sense of legitimacy to racial superiority as a political position which inherently encourages the violence against and genocide of "lesser" races.

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"I think violence against Nazis is ok (when the mobilise)"

Define mobilize?  Or you believe in preemptive strikes based on your fears? 

Should the same preemptive strikes also occur on Muslim groups? What about African gangs? 

"racial superiority"

Do you hold the same feelings for Black or Asian groups that feel their race is "superior" in some way?  Or is this violence against this type of mindset exclusive to just white groups?

How do you feel about religious groups that feel they're superior based on their belief system and culture?  Should we violently target Muslims that think all non-Muslims are inferior?  Because "the hatred they propagate only fuels more violence".

Sounds like another post filled with double standards and hypocrisy, another good job Tip.

Tipote said:

Race hatred gets us nowhere except fighting, war and genocide and its what Nazis thrive off, I think violence against Nazis is ok (when they mobilise) because violence has been shown to be most effective in the past and the hatred they propagate only fuels more violence. Debating gives a sense of legitimacy to racial superiority as a political position which inherently encourages the violence against and genocide of "lesser" races.



I'm happy to hear your views.

Yours sincerely,

Tip

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SleepyE said:

i despise richard spencer and his group of hitler loving pricks, although i feel that there must be a better way than to attempt to stop the hate with violence.

its a tricky situation. i have seen facebook posts about this and the comments are complicated. One person said you shouldn't use violence to get your point across and also condemned these nazi but others responded negatively towards this person saying the is no justification for defending anything that happens to this person and if you stand up for him you are part of the problem.

very tricky on finding the proper moral high ground in this situation.

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qman said:

Should violence also be used against Blacklivesmatter's when they spew racial hatred towards whites? 

Why the main focus on white racial groups?

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qman said:

Tipote said:

Race hatred gets us nowhere except fighting, war and genocide and its what Nazis thrive off, I think violence against Nazis is ok (when they mobilise) because violence has been shown to be most effective in the past and the hatred they propagate only fuels more violence. Debating gives a sense of legitimacy to racial superiority as a political position which inherently encourages the violence against and genocide of "lesser" races.

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"I think violence against Nazis is ok (when the mobilise)"

Define mobilize?  Or you believe in preemptive strikes based on your fears? 

Should the same preemptive strikes also occur on Muslim groups? What about African gangs? 

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Webster10 said:

How the fuck is that guy a nazi? In the goddamn interview when he got punched he made it explicitly clear he's not a neonazi and doesn't support neonazism. It was senseless violence against a troll wearing a Pepe pin. Totally uncalled for, and it's disgusting that so many people on the internet think that this guy getting punched is okay

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Bodhi of Ankou said:

Thats hilarious that you support all that stuff when your choices of candidates for the last 8 years funded and organized all those things.

Such cute beliefs.

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Bodhi of Ankou said:

You're the only one exhibiting Nazi like behaviour with your absolutely violent response to the results of a fair election. If anyone needs to be cut down its the left

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Tipote said:

I respect your opinion and that perspective and I have been mulling it over. I dont mean that people should be attacked for just talking and I dont think Richard Spencer should have been punched in such a cowardly way but I can't help but share the satisfaction of watching him get punched. I mean rather that groups who mobilise, advocate the genocide of other races, and provocatively march through neighbourhoods of 'undesirables' can be reasonably met with resistance, non-violent and violent.

Debating people who believe in supremacist politics, the jewish conspiracy, and white genocide does not tend to result in change, even if you have shown them to be wrong.

I share your concerns but believe there is a line after which they need to be shut down. I don't advocate violence straight off the bat, but think its reasonable to be in the arsenal.

Orwell himself said that the word fascist or nazi has been used in billions of inappropriate contexts and that would be my concern.

Battle of Cable Street 1936

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