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Is this picture supposed to be making a point in response to my sentence?
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http://yournewswire.com/black-lives-matter-produced-by-george-soros/
lol, yeh i know- the all powerful SOROS is like the wizard of Oz.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: The EU is being full on invaded however, and its being orchestrated by the ones at the top for political gain, believe it or not. When you have hordes of militants roaming through your streets a armed response is more then necessary.
The EU is not being invaded , you maybe just think that because you see all muslims or people south of the Western world as a homogeneous collective with a unified ideological agenda and political structure..?? that isnt the case. Refugees are not an invasion force. Terrorists that sometimes mingle among them have capabilities to strike at the heart of European cities regardless of what you call an invasion. When actual terrorists go to commit terrorist acts, sure those islamofascists can be fucked up and some probably do fuck these people up.
who at the top is orchestrating the "invasion"? and why?
let me guess.. SOROS the demi god?
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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Tipote]
#24034122 - 01/23/17 06:45 PM (7 years, 7 days ago) |
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Letting in millions of undocumented and often militant foreigners in is not being accommodating. Thats giving up land, resources and jobs to a massive swell of foreigners (which is also known as an INVASION). Nobody sane wants that, and thankfully you are a minority in your beliefs and opinions.
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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Tipote]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: The EU is being full on invaded however, and its being orchestrated by the ones at the top for political gain, believe it or not. When you have hordes of militants roaming through your streets a armed response is more then necessary.
The EU is not being invaded , you maybe just think that because you see all muslims or people south of the Western world as a homogeneous collective with a unified ideological agenda and political structure..?? that isnt the case. Refugees are not an invasion force. Terrorists that sometimes mingle among them have capabilities to strike at the heart of European cities regardless of what you call an invasion. When actual terrorists go to commit terrorist acts, sure those islamofascists can be fucked up and some probably do fuck these people up.
who at the top is orchestrating the "invasion"? and why?
Why is your only criteria for an invasion terrorist acts?
Why not sexual and physical assaults by migrants? Why not no-go zone? Why not domestic crimes that making living in one's homeland terrorizing? Why not taxes to pay for people that illegally entered your nation?
Why are your expectations for Muslims living in the EU so low that if they're not terrorists, they're considered a success?
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Letting in millions of undocumented and often militant foreigners in is not being accommodating.
are you rebutting something I said?
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Thats giving up land, resources and jobs to a massive swell of foreigners. Nobody sane wants that, and thankfully you are a minority in your beliefs and opinions.
You dont seem to understand my position on this issue, if you followed the Rise of the far-right thread you might have a better idea of what I'm ok with.
And if you want to continue this discussion about "invasion", you can take the discussion to that thread.
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Your stance on it is highschool level cuckery. We can do one more crusade to keep these child fucking savages out of our lands.
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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: qman]
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qman said: Why is your only criteria for an invasion terrorist acts?
It isnt. There are terrorist attacks and I'm not calling it an invasion..
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Why not sexual and physical assaults by migrants? Why not no-go zone? Why not domestic crimes that making living in one's homeland terrorizing? Why not taxes to pay for people that illegally entered your nation?
Why are your expectations for Muslims living in the EU so low that if they're not terrorists, they're considered a success? 
Ask me these question in the far right thread and Ill respond to them. I only meant to post this OP and go to bed, its very late - but not all threads need to be about the so called 'muslim invasion' of Europe.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Your stance on it is highschool level cuckery. We can do one more crusade to keep these child fucking savages out of our lands.
wondered when someone was going to start using these alt right words.. snowflake, check; cuck, check..
sounds pretty savage that you want to go on an indiscriminate foreigner murder spree yet I'm the one being a Nazi for being ok with violence against Nazis.
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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Tipote]
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Where did I say that, a crusade can be done through peaceful means.
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"one more crusade" does not imply peaceful means
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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Tipote]
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I wrote this essay today on the subject. The line "excited to an almost sexual state of arousal by the sight of a Nazi getting what they thought he deserved," was inspired by Tip.
Original here.
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The Fallacy of Pre-Emptive Violence
At a march in Washington D.C. this week, accused neo-Nazi Richard Spencer was kinghit from the blindside by a mystery black-hoodie-clad protester. Footage of the incident was the most viral meme of the entire Inauguration period, trumping even anything the U.S. President said. The reaction of the Internet, predictably, was divided.
One part of the viewership was appalled by the purposeless attack on the sacred value of free speech; another part was excited to an almost sexual state of arousal by the sight of a Nazi getting what they thought he deserved.
Justification for the latter reaction began almost immediately, and was earnest, although convoluted. The basic premise, however, was eerily familiar: Spencer was a Nazi, Nazis want to violently take over the world, therefore they can essentially be attacked at any time in pre-emptive self-defence.
On the face of it, it’s hard to argue with that line of reasoning. The excuse that “I just got the bear before the bear got me” was after all, the excuse George W. Bush used to invade Iraq and kill a million people – and he completely got away with it.
There’s one glaring problem with the Bush Doctrine though, especially when it is applied to blindsiding people in the street for their political opinions: the potential excuses that a person might make to conduct ‘pre-emptive’ violence against another is limited only by human ingenuity.
In the same way that conservatives delude themselves into believing they are compassionate, liberals delude themselves into believing they are tolerant. For a start, the logic that any violence against Nazis is justified because Nazism is a supremacist political movement also justifies violence against any of the Abrahamic cults, as they are also supremacist ideologies.
It would then be legitimate to beat the shit out of any Christian or Jew one met on the grounds that their holy book contains a command from God to kill homosexuals. One could also conduct pre-emptive violence for a number of reasons against any Muslim you met.
Any American could be dealt to under the logic that American imperialism is one of the prime threats to the stability of the world order, and any European could be shown some fist on the grounds that prior imperialism suggests a high likelihood of future imperialism. Any Chinese or Indian could be bashed because their massive populations threaten the viability of the biosphere.
If someone calls you a Nazi, whether you are one or not, that could be an excuse for pre-emptive violence on the grounds that the epithet is generally only levelled at people who are murderous totalitarians and therefore should be killed with extreme prejudice. And people are being called ‘Nazi’ at ever-increasing rates – it’s almost become synonymous with ‘to the right of the speaker.’
If someone calls you a Commie, whether you are one or not, that could be an excuse for pre-emptive violence on the grounds that the epithet is generally only levelled at people who are murderous totalitarians and therefore should be killed with extreme prejudice. And people are being called ‘Commie’ at ever-increasing rates – it’s almost become synonymous with ‘to the left of the speaker.’
This means that anyone can find a reason to attack anyone else pre-emptively. It’s just a simple matter of knowing if you are doing it because your target is a Nazi or because they are a Commie.
As anyone who walked the streets of Weimar Germany could tell you, National Socialists and Communists are just ready made for fighting, like the yang and yin of violence. Their natural instinct is to go each other like two stags in rutting season.
Perhaps the best course of action for reasonable people is the Churchill Doctrine that served Britain so well in World War II: just stand back and let them kill each other.
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Tipote said: i'm talking about citizen action against nazis marching in jewish/muslim areas to intimidate.
Tipote out of one side of his mouth: Muslims are not in Europe to conquer and anyone who says so is a Nazi
Tipote out of the other side of his mouth: white people in Muslim territory within Europe can be assumed to have come to intimidate and can freely be bashed
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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Tipote]
#24035134 - 01/24/17 04:45 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Violence is the only language some people understand. Here's a video of some antifa trying stop good people from going to work, then gets deservedly punched in the head. Enjoy.
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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: viktor]
#24035195 - 01/24/17 05:46 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Tipote said: i'm talking about citizen action against nazis marching in jewish/muslim areas to intimidate.
Tipote out of one side of his mouth: Muslims are not in Europe to conquer and anyone who says so is a Nazi
Tipote out of the other side of his mouth: white people in Muslim territory within Europe can be assumed to have come to intimidate and can freely be bashed
I dont think I've said either of those things but we all know by now you dont have a grip on what other people actually say.
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Tipote.
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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: viktor]
#24035215 - 01/24/17 06:08 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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viktor said: I wrote this essay today on the subject. The line "excited to an almost sexual state of arousal by the sight of a Nazi getting what they thought he deserved," was inspired by Tip.
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The Fallacy of Pre-Emptive Violence
At a march in Washington D.C. this week, accused neo-Nazi Richard Spencer was kinghit from the blindside by a mystery black-hoodie-clad protester. Footage of the incident was the most viral meme of the entire Inauguration period, trumping even anything the U.S. President said. The reaction of the Internet, predictably, was divided.
One part of the viewership was appalled by the purposeless attack on the sacred value of free speech; another part was excited to an almost sexual state of arousal by the sight of a Nazi getting what they thought he deserved.
Justification for the latter reaction began almost immediately, and was earnest, although convoluted. The basic premise, however, was eerily familiar: Spencer was a Nazi, Nazis want to violently take over the world, therefore they can essentially be attacked at any time in pre-emptive self-defence.
On the face of it, it’s hard to argue with that line of reasoning. The excuse that “I just got the bear before the bear got me” was after all, the excuse George W. Bush used to invade Iraq and kill a million people – and he completely got away with it.
There’s one glaring problem with the Bush Doctrine though, especially when it is applied to blindsiding people in the street for their political opinions: the potential excuses that a person might make to conduct ‘pre-emptive’ violence against another is limited only by human ingenuity.
In the same way that conservatives delude themselves into believing they are compassionate, liberals delude themselves into believing they are tolerant. For a start, the logic that any violence against Nazis is justified because Nazism is a supremacist political movement also justifies violence against any of the Abrahamic cults, as they are also supremacist ideologies.
It would then be legitimate to beat the shit out of any Christian or Jew one met on the grounds that their holy book contains a command from God to kill homosexuals. One could also conduct pre-emptive violence for a number of reasons against any Muslim you met.
Any American could be dealt to under the logic that American imperialism is one of the prime threats to the stability of the world order, and any European could be shown some fist on the grounds that prior imperialism suggests a high likelihood of future imperialism. Any Chinese or Indian could be bashed because their massive populations threaten the viability of the biosphere.
If someone calls you a Nazi, whether you are one or not, that could be an excuse for pre-emptive violence on the grounds that the epithet is generally only levelled at people who are murderous totalitarians and therefore should be killed with extreme prejudice. And people are being called ‘Nazi’ at ever-increasing rates – it’s almost become synonymous with ‘to the right of the speaker.’
If someone calls you a Commie, whether you are one or not, that could be an excuse for pre-emptive violence on the grounds that the epithet is generally only levelled at people who are murderous totalitarians and therefore should be killed with extreme prejudice. And people are being called ‘Commie’ at ever-increasing rates – it’s almost become synonymous with ‘to the left of the speaker.’
This means that anyone can find a reason to attack anyone else pre-emptively. It’s just a simple matter of knowing if you are doing it because your target is a Nazi or because they are a Commie.
As anyone who walked the streets of Weimar Germany could tell you, National Socialists and Communists are just ready made for fighting, like the yang and yin of violence. Their natural instinct is to go each other like two stags in rutting season.
Perhaps the best course of action for reasonable people is the Churchill Doctrine that served Britain so well in World War II: just stand back and let them kill each other.
a couple of points..
- I didn't talk about preemptive strikes so that should address large swathes of your posts already... I said when Nazis mobilise and I clarified that when they use violence they will be met with resistance. - I wasn't calling Spencer a Nazi and posted that gif because it was the story that has brought this question into the public sphere again. I was not making the argument that Spencer should have been hit, I also said that it was a cowardly way to punch someone if you wanted to punch someone anyway. To me, Spencer does seem quite clearly to be a Nazi but I have already stated that I dont know enough about his beliefs to correctly label him as such. Even if he was a Nazi in Nazi uniform, I would not advocate the attack on him as all he was doing was speaking on the street.
Stuff like this however- Armed neo-Nazis 'set date' for march against Jewish people and businesses in Montana town - should be met with fierce resistance.
- I also made the point that a concern would be what the word fascist was used in many inappropriate contexts so I wasn't saying I can just call you a Nazi and punch you. - for the billionth time, I'm not a communist. - I actually think its quite ironic that Spencer was punched as someone held a sign in the background saying fight for socialism over barbarism.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Tipote.
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a gross distortion. Islamophobia is not having a problem with religious bigotry 
I have plenty of problems with religious bigotry so perhaps you can clarify your point?
Maybe present my positions in cartoon form when you understand them?
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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Tipote]
#24035223 - 01/24/17 06:15 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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For all those who talk about respecting the right to protest.. Will you be as accepting of a da'esh-inspired armed march through our streets as the armed neo-nazi march?
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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Tipote]
#24035228 - 01/24/17 06:20 AM (7 years, 6 days ago) |
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Hitler did nothing wrong.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Hitler did nothing wrong.
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