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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: elax420]
    #24058384 - 02/01/17 07:54 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Like I implied earlier, I don't even know all that much about him, but I've still managed to find some things he's said that I disagree with. I've never heard of him advocating any genocides though, but of course I wouldn't agree with that. And if he is condoning such things then you'd be right to call him a nazi. I'm not defending him as much as I am criticizing the Antifa people and the people who claim he is representative of everyone who shares some of his views and say all white nationalists are automatically nazis, because like I said plenty of them do not condone violence. If he's doing the Hitler salute and all that then he's just pushing people away who otherwise agree with some of the things he says. One thing I disagree with him on is he says that America is for white people, I disagree because America is not the homeland of white people. I just think that everyone deserves to have their homeland continue to feel like it is, so, Europe for Europeans, Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians etc. And places like America for people who want to have multiculturalism (actually I'm sort of torn on the America one because there were people here before us and our immigrant family members, but it just ended up being built upon immigration). The biggest reason these people are called "white nationalists" rather than just nationalists, is because it is pretty much only nations founded by white people that are having immigration pushed so aggressively on them. If I could go back in time I would've advised white people to not fuck around with the colonialism.


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Eminence]
    #24059076 - 02/01/17 11:54 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Also I'd like to add that these people are closer to nazis than the alt-right people a lot of you are referring to, here's an example of some of the honorable anti-alt-right protestors. Just saw this posted in another thread.




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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Eminence] * 2
    #24059653 - 02/02/17 09:18 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

How does this show that they are "closer to nazis than the alt-right people a lot of you are referring to"?

Do you think antifascism is simply violence against those they disagree with?

Is nazism just violence against people they disagree with?

And @Bodhi, when you call people Nazis, do you mean it as a compliment?


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Tipote] * 2
    #24059676 - 02/02/17 09:26 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Tips, and most progressives political ideology can be summed up in one picture



Anything past that they believe the "ends justify the means"

They believe they can beat up retarded people because they represent white privileges, the whole starting point of progressive ideology has literally become garbage


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Tipote] * 4
    #24060902 - 02/02/17 06:21 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Nazism isn't a peaceful ideology.


It advocates the extermination of the vast majority of the human population.

If you support this fuck you #1
#2 no one is gonna shed a tear when you get what is coming to you

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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: elax420] * 3
    #24060919 - 02/02/17 06:28 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

>supporting violence and condemnation against people that think their race is superior and the rest of the world should be subservient, if not out right exterminated

Oh my god you guys are worse than nazis, you fascist....






Milo shouldn't even be at universities considering he doesn't even have a bachelors let alone a doctorate. He is a controversialist not a academic.

Go have your little nazi dating group led by the political equivalent of Kim Kardashian somewhere besides one of the most prestigious universities on the planet.


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: elax420] * 1
    #24061007 - 02/02/17 07:04 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

are you saying that Milo is a Nazi and a fascist? He is irritating and over the top and says provocative things but he isn't racist or anti-Semitic or pro-fascist.

I don't understand where all those violent hysterical "protesters" were getting those ideas from.

Silencing someone with violence because you don't like their ideas is very Nazi like.


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: xzylocybin]
    #24061442 - 02/02/17 10:09 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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are you saying that Milo is a Nazi and a fascist? He is irritating and over the top and says provocative things but he isn't racist or anti-Semitic or pro-fascist.

I don't understand where all those violent hysterical "protesters" were getting those ideas from.

Silencing someone with violence because you don't like their ideas is very Nazi like.




My impression has been that Milo is a fascist, but not a Nazi, and not evidently anti semitic (fascist doesn't inherently imply racism)

personally I think nobody should be barred from speaking by pressure from fuckin mobs, whether or not they're a fascist


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Ezuma]
    #24061506 - 02/02/17 10:39 PM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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xzylocybin said:
are you saying that Milo is a Nazi and a fascist? He is irritating and over the top and says provocative things but he isn't racist or anti-Semitic or pro-fascist.

I don't understand where all those violent hysterical "protesters" were getting those ideas from.

Silencing someone with violence because you don't like their ideas is very Nazi like.




My impression has been that Milo is a fascist, but not a Nazi, and not evidently anti semitic (fascist doesn't inherently imply racism)

personally I think nobody should be barred from speaking by pressure from fuckin mobs, whether or not they're a fascist




"Milo is a fascist"

Why have you come to that conclusion?


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: xzylocybin] * 1
    #24061687 - 02/03/17 12:21 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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xzylocybin said:
are you saying that Milo is a Nazi and a fascist? He is irritating and over the top and says provocative things but he isn't racist or anti-Semitic or pro-fascist.

I don't understand where all those violent hysterical "protesters" were getting those ideas from.

Silencing someone with violence because you don't like their ideas is very Nazi like.






What credibility does he have to speak one of the greatest platforms in all of academia?

Fuck letting these douchebags who create shit like this have an incredibly powerful platforms, and fuck normalizing this behavior. You are all absolving him of blame and acting like this wasn't his intention in the first place.

He's just a controversial racist prick that goes to places where he clearly isn't welcome, to push his own personal narrative on freedom of speech being suppressed in academia. He's not even an academic though so I don't know why he expects to be treated as such.


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: elax420]
    #24061722 - 02/03/17 12:40 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Hes a gay jewish man whos dating a black man.  The fact that any of you think hes a nazi is hilarious.


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #24061943 - 02/03/17 05:14 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

right.. so as a white heterosexual man, I could never be bigotted against white heterosexual men?

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Personal sexuality
While Yiannopoulos is gay, he has stated that gay rights are detrimental to humanity, and that gay men should "get back in the closet".[99] He has described being gay as "aberrant" and "a lifestyle choice guaranteed to bring [gay people] pain and unhappiness".[100] He has said that he would love to experiment with conversion therapy, but not because he thinks it will work.[101]

In September 2015, Yiannopoulos guest-starred on Joe Rogan's YouTube show, The Joe Rogan Experience. During the show, Yiannopoulos claimed to have lost his virginity at age 13 "in an interracial fivesome with a drag queen".[102] Some have accused Yiannopoulos of exaggerating his homosexuality for comic effect, and falling back on homophobic tropes in doing so.[17]




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Milo: "I mean, they may have some assumptions about things, how the Jews run everything; well, we do. How the Jews run the banks; well, we do. How the Jews run the media; well, we do. They’re right about all that stuff. … It’s a fact, this is not in debate. It’s a statistical fact … Jews are vastly disproportionately represented in all of these professions. It’s just a fact."




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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: elax420]
    #24062187 - 02/03/17 08:32 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

xzylocybin said:
are you saying that Milo is a Nazi and a fascist? He is irritating and over the top and says provocative things but he isn't racist or anti-Semitic or pro-fascist.

I don't understand where all those violent hysterical "protesters" were getting those ideas from.

Silencing someone with violence because you don't like their ideas is very Nazi like.






What credibility does he have to speak one of the greatest platforms in all of academia?

Fuck letting these douchebags who create shit like this have an incredibly powerful platforms, and fuck normalizing this behavior. You are all absolving him of blame and acting like this wasn't his intention in the first place.

He's just a controversial racist prick that goes to places where he clearly isn't welcome, to push his own personal narrative on freedom of speech being suppressed in academia. He's not even an academic though so I don't know why he expects to be treated as such.




He's usually invited to speak by some student organization, why shouldn't they have access to speakers they want to hear?

"clearly isn't welcome"

So, then those students shouldn't attend his speeches.

"he's not even an academic"

So he should be a professor to give a speech on campus?

"his intention in the first place"

To give a speech, he can't control the reaction of these moron protesters.


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: qman]
    #24062318 - 02/03/17 09:50 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

I completely fail to see how he is fascist, but I would like to understand your point of view, no disrespect, but can you tell us what led you to believe he is a fascist?

I am not pushing any agenda and I am not a supporter of his, just trying to understand if there is a real basis for these beliefs.


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: xzylocybin]
    #24062392 - 02/03/17 10:35 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

He's not an academic, he's not even educated. And I'm seriously you arent either (qman)


What he deserves one of the best platforms in academia to tell women to go back to the kitchen.


Oh man this is riveting and groundbreaking stuff. Stop being so fucking entitled


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: elax420]
    #24062404 - 02/03/17 10:43 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

So if you carve out a niche as a a contraversial faggot who hates minorities, and appeals only to the lowest level of scum in American culture (keep in mind this asshole is Brit that got ran out of his own country), you are now qualified to speak at the most prestigious academic institutions in the globe?


Seriously name one of his accomplishments, that isn't starting a fights with black women then hiding behind the police once the chaos he wanted all along ensues.


Ahhh what hero he attacks minorities publicly and tells them to get a jerrrb. He should speak at Oxford!!!


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: elax420]
    #24062415 - 02/03/17 10:47 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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He's not an academic, he's not even educated. And I'm seriously you arent either (qman)


What he deserves one of the best platforms in academia to tell women to go back to the kitchen.


Oh man this is riveting and groundbreaking stuff. Stop being so fucking entitled




When did I say he has any valid information to spread to these students?  He's a big joke and nothing more, but that's NOT the point.

If some group of students want to listen to his shit, they are entitled to do so, it's NOT up to me or you to decide if he's educated or qualified enough to do so, why is that so difficult to understand?


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: elax420]
    #24062422 - 02/03/17 10:51 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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elax420 said:
So if you carve out a niche as a a contraversial faggot who hates minorities, and appeals only to the lowest level of scum in American culture (keep in mind this asshole is Brit that got ran out of his own country), you are now qualified to speak at the most prestigious academic institutions in the globe?


Seriously name one of his accomplishments, that isn't starting a fights with black women then hiding behind the police once the chaos he wanted all along ensues.


Ahhh what hero he attacks minorities publicly and tells them to get a jerrrb. He should speak at Oxford!!!




Again, many speakers are not "qualified" to speak at prestigious universities, yet they are allowed to do it.

It's not up to me or you to decide, if students want to hear different ideas that's their choice.

Milo is a little nit, that's not the point.


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: qman]
    #24062438 - 02/03/17 10:57 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

Ya that pretty much my opinion. Of course there are exceptions who have done incredible things (war heros, captains of industry, civil rights leaders)

The students pretty clearly did decide they don't want him.




I wouldn't of reacted that way, not that I'm morally opposed to any of it fuck that douchebag he should feel intimated, but rather that it's not worth going to jail over.


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Re: Is violence against Nazis ok? [Re: xzylocybin]
    #24062450 - 02/03/17 11:03 AM (6 years, 11 months ago)

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xzylocybin said:
I completely fail to see how he is fascist, but I would like to understand your point of view, no disrespect, but can you tell us what led you to believe he is a fascist?

I am not pushing any agenda and I am not a supporter of his, just trying to understand if there is a real basis for these beliefs.





I should have known that would be too much to ask, nobody wants to actually talk and share ideas, just bitch at each other for having different ideas


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