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Trump talks to Taiwan
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Apparently the Chinese are pissed.

"China views Taiwan as a renegade province and, since 1979, the US has acknowledged Beijing's claim that Taiwan is part of China, with US-China relations governed by a set of protocols known as the "one China" policy.

This means there are no formal diplomatic relations between the United States and Taiwan -- so Trump's decision to take Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen's call could risk a major upset."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-taiwan/

Does this eschewing of diplomatic protocol reveal Trump to be a dangerous wildcard or an innovator?


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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: Skellies]
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Pissing off China doesn't seem innovative or in any way intelligent or advantageous, at least to me.  They own trillions of our debt, and are in a business partnership with us to the tune of trillions every year for both countries.  I'm not sure fucking with that could be appropriately construed to be a good idea.


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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: DividedQuantum]
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I could see someone arguing that it's a negotiation tactic. Trump may be trying to display that he is willing to "stand up" to the demands of China if they won't come to an agreement with him. Once the other party knows you'll never get up and leave the table they have already won.

Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Trump did this on accident. I don't think he knows a whole lot about diplomatic protocol yet. When Tsai Ing called he probably thought "The president of Taiwan... Sounds important!"


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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: DividedQuantum]
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DividedQuantum said:
Pissing off China doesn't seem innovative or in any way intelligent or advantageous, at least to me.  They own trillions of our debt, and are in a business partnership with us to the tune of trillions every year for both countries.  I'm not sure fucking with that could be appropriately construed to be a good idea.


Bowing down and taking it up the ass from china for the last several decades is what gave us Trump. This was the same mentality the left warned us about during the Reagan years, :rolleyes:

***I see progressive indoctrination continues


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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: Skellies] * 1
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austothehun said:
Apparently the Chinese are pissed.

"China views Taiwan as a renegade province and, since 1979, the US has acknowledged Beijing's claim that Taiwan is part of China, with US-China relations governed by a set of protocols known as the "one China" policy.

This means there are no formal diplomatic relations between the United States and Taiwan -- so Trump's decision to take Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen's call could risk a major upset."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/02/politics/donald-trump-taiwan/

Does this eschewing of diplomatic protocol reveal Trump to be a dangerous wildcard or an innovator?


CNN is notorious for fear mongering and absolutely trashed what little credibility they once had during the election. Their clown college experts and pollsters. I swear, they put up bozo the fucking clown with some of these nonsense articles and headings.

Fun fact, Fucking Communism CHINA revealed Trump as president and wont he election before CNN.

What a joke.


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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: Skellies]
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After reading a couple different sources, it seems Chinese officials who got quoted are well aware that Trump is retarded and they played the incident down as a Taiwanese prank. The white house and Beijing immediately patched things up.

We now have a Berlusconi/Duerte/Ahmedinijad shit tier leader. At best foreign leaders will condescend to Trump like an autistic child, at worst valuable diplomatic relations will be soured because Trump's fefes got hurt :cryaboutit:


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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: Crumist]
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Crumist said:
After reading a couple different sources, it seems Chinese officials who got quoted are well aware that Trump is retarded and they played the incident down as a Taiwanese prank. The white house and Beijing immediately patched things up.

We now have a Berlusconi/Duerte/Ahmedinijad shit tier leader. At best foreign leaders will condescend to Trump like an autistic child, at worst valuable diplomatic relations will be soured because Trump's fefes got hurt :cryaboutit:


Could you cite these sources?


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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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hostileuniverse said:
DividedQuantum said:
Pissing off China doesn't seem innovative or in any way intelligent or advantageous, at least to me.  They own trillions of our debt, and are in a business partnership with us to the tune of trillions every year for both countries.  I'm not sure fucking with that could be appropriately construed to be a good idea.


Bowing down and taking it up the ass from china for the last several decades is what gave us Trump. This was the same mentality the left warned us about during the Reagan years, :rolleyes:

***I see progressive indoctrination continues


S...T...F...U

he didn't say anything that you supposed he said. he didn't say "bow down to China". he said "pissing them off might not be the best idea, considering they'll just forgo paying their debt, and perhaps go to war."

i'm fine with that, but at least get what he's saying correct, in your brain, then open your mouth.

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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: akira_akuma]
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People is use the excuse "don't make them angry" to cover uo their weakness and bow down and take it up the ass from these people, that's a fact

What has obama done to stand up to the Chinese currency and market manipulations? :popcorn:


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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: hostileuniverse]
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935. Trump confirms secret deal (11/29/2016)

Another similarity of the two president election (2000 and 2016), is both are for a murder plot of the Feds(FBI and DEA). The murder target is Kat sung.

In 2001 Bush's term, the big events were: 4/11 The crew of EP-3 spy plane released by China - to justify a payment to China. 6/11 the execution of Timothy McVeigh - a distract action. 9/11 attack - part of interest exchange between DOD and DOJ. 7/13 China awarded to host 2008 Olympic Game; 9/17 China awarded the membership of WTO - payment to China.

see: http://katsung.forumotion.com/t6-from-ep-3-spy-plane-to-911-attack

However, the Feds failed to eliminate Kat Sung.

In 2016 election, to assure the killing plot to go through, they let a representative of their own - Donald Trump to take over the president power. So we saw an unusual election that an unqualified crook defeated a professional politician.

The Feds(FBI and DEA) obviously have made new secret deal with Chinese secret police. They let the heads of two countries to confirm their deal in a call. 

Quote:
In phone call, China's Xi tells Trump cooperation is only choice
By Michael Martina and Steve Holland
Reuters  11/14/2016

http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/news/story/0002/20161114/KBN1390D3_7


One day later,China got its first payment as assurance. 

Quote:
China's most-wanted corruption suspect surrenders after 13 years abroad

Reuters    November 16, 2016

By Sue-Lin Wong
BEIJING (Reuters) - China's most-wanted corruption suspect returned to China from the United States on Wednesday after turning herself in, a major victory for the ruling Communist Party's overseas hunt for fugitive officials.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinas-most-wanted-corruption-suspect-surrenders-13-years-090847605.html




The president elected approves the secret deal. (payment too) The lackeys now are preparing for the detail work. 

Quote:
November 16, 2016

U.S. and Chinese diplomats and law enforcement representatives plan to meet in Beijing next week to discuss fighting transnational crime through the China-U.S. Joint Liaison Group on Law Enforcement Cooperation.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-ex-vice-mayor-wanted-corruption-returns-us-080236004.html



936. Diplomat squabble to cover up secret deal (12/7/2016)

Quote:
China hopes Trump call with Taiwan leader won't damage ties

Gillian Wong and Johnson Lai,
Associated Press      December 2, 2016

It is highly unusual, probably unprecedented, for a U.S. president or president-elect to speak directly with a leader of Taiwan, a self-governing island the U.S. broke diplomatic ties with in 1979.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-speaks-taiwans-president-risking-china-tensions-223316122--election.html


It is a cover up action to shelter the secret deal underneath. There was a similar tactic acted in 2001. They created a diplomatic dispute - EP3 spy plane collided with a Chinese military jet. So be this time. People would hardly believe the two have collaborated to frame a big murder case while having a bicker squabble outwardly.

Trump hasn't sitting on president chair. Yet he has confirmed the secret deal with Chinese leader and done the cover up job already. How hurry the Feds is to eliminate Kat Sung.

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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: katsung47]
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I got a good laugh reading some of this

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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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hostileuniverse said:
What has obama done to stand up to the Chinese currency and market manipulations? :popcorn:


His bosses wanted him to do exactly nothing, that's what a House Negro does.

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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
People is use the excuse "don't make them angry" to cover uo their weakness and bow down and take it up the ass from these people, that's a fact

What has obama done to stand up to the Chinese currency and market manipulations? :popcorn:


Quote:
i'm fine with that


as in

Quote:
you should hold China accountable


comprehend before you open mouth. :dumbblonde:

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Re: Trump talks to Taiwan [Re: hostileuniverse]
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hostileuniverse said:
Crumist said:
After reading a couple different sources, it seems Chinese officials who got quoted are well aware that Trump is retarded and they played the incident down as a Taiwanese prank. The white house and Beijing immediately patched things up.

We now have a Berlusconi/Duerte/Ahmedinijad shit tier leader. At best foreign leaders will condescend to Trump like an autistic child, at worst valuable diplomatic relations will be soured because Trump's fefes got hurt :cryaboutit:


Could you cite these sources?


:popcorn:

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