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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: pineninja]
    #25041442 - 03/05/18 07:41 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Trump has stirred the anthill once again sending people in all directions yelling furiously. He hasn't imposed anything, he proposed something. I wish he had thought it through more carefully but he just came out with it. I think there will be closed door meetings and they will come up with a better list of products to put tariffs on and a lower percentage. Other countries will be so relieved they will hardly complain.


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: Stonehenge] * 4
    #25041450 - 03/05/18 07:44 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

The village drunk has more discretion than he has.
He's the leader of the "free world" stop making excuses for him.

"I wish he had thought it through more carefully but he just came out with it."
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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #25041476 - 03/05/18 07:56 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

It already sounds like the USA won't win a trade war. Trump's tariffs have already cost a lot of jobs in the solar panel sector. If these steel and aluminum tariffs go through the cost of a car will go way up. I wouldn't be surprised if it cost another $3000-$5000 for a new car after these tariffs pass. The USA really doesn't have the manufacturing capability to compete on a global scale anymore because we're a consumer economy. That's why it's so hard to find a good job. Most good jobs don't need you to have a bachelor's degree, but will require it just to keep the applications down. Those without the degree normally end up in low skilled jobs or skilled job that will tear their body apart in 15 years for the rest of their lives.


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: mycosis]
    #25041687 - 03/05/18 09:43 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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I think balls had a good idea earlier.  Only impose tariffs on countries that don't have or enforce production and labor laws and who pay shit wages to their workers.




I would go further than that.  If I had my druthers, any non-compliant country would be barred from doing business in the U.S. at all.  Do an end run around the tariff issue.




The WTO stands against everything you hope for.




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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #25041833 - 03/05/18 11:16 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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The village drunk has more discretion than he has.
He's the leader of the "free world" stop making excuses for him.

"I wish he had thought it through more carefully but he just came out with it."
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And? It means he'll use it? Maybe im forgetting, but he CANT actually use them himself, even if he wanted too. Dont fall for trump hysteria


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #25041836 - 03/05/18 11:17 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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I dont know why they do anything they do, i was just pointing out that they already know all the pros and cons that we know. Guys on the internet aren't finding any new information that they dont already know about




Except that many care about the pro's for themselves and their business investors over the cons for the entire middle/lower classes.

Some of these people are also really stupid and short sited it seems, here's a funny recent example:

Manafort Left an Incriminating Paper Trail Because He Couldn’t Figure Out How to Convert PDFs to Word Files

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on or about October 21, 2016, Manafort emailed Gates a .pdf version of the real 2016 DMI P&L, which showed a loss of more than $600,000. Gates converted that .pdf into a “Word” document so that it could be edited, which Gates sent back to Manafort. Manafort altered that “Word” document by adding more than $3.5 million in income. He then sent this falsified P&L to Gates and asked that the “Word” document be converted back to a .pdf, which Gates did and returned to Manafort. Manafort then sent the falsified 2016 DMI P&L .pdf to Lender D.




Really shows how dumb some of these guys are. They think they can get away with anything so they don't even bother trying to be smart about their crimes.

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The media is biased towards trump. Maybe there are some pros being omitted from the media's version of the story, i have no idea




Some of the media is, just like some is biased in favor of Trump and willing to lie to make him look better. Even many conservatives are saying this is a bad idea though.

There's actually a lot of news outlets that have been too easy on Trump IMO just for the sake of appearing neutral.



Lol thats actually comically funny


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25042043 - 03/06/18 02:58 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Trump’s proposed tariffs will lead to ‘deep recession’, say World Trade Organisation

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The director-general of the World Trade Organisation (WTO) is urging President Donald Trump not impose steep tariffs on aluminium and steel exports, saying that doing so could lead the world into a "deep recession".

"An eye for an eye will leave us all blind, and the world in deep recession," Director-General Roberto Azevedo told members of his organisation Monday. We "must make every effort to avoid the fall of the first dominoes."

The warning follows less than a week after Mr Trump shocked global markets by saying he wants to impose a 10 per cent tax on aluminium exports, and a 25 per cent tariff on steel imports. That announcement was met with swift threats from the international community, including key allies like the European Union and Canada, which pledged to retaliate if the American president makes good on his plan.




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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: MagicMush123]
    #25042272 - 03/06/18 07:19 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

>he CANT actually use them himself, even if he wanted too

Trump has the nuke codes and can declare a state of emergency any time he wants. He can then order missiles sent and his order will be obeyed

I'm waiting for the closed door meeting to finish and for them to come forward with a revised list of tariffs.


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: Stonehenge]
    #25042303 - 03/06/18 07:44 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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my opinion, CNN, Fox or any other MSM news outlet does NOT make a good attempt doing it, it's about ratings, not being intellectually honest.

"what you said not be bullshit"

So according to your logic, the very same Congress that passed the corporate tax cuts to benefit the wealthy are now looking out for the peasants to stop Trump's economic tariffs.  :flowstone:




  No I didn’t say anything about Congress , we are talking about the media , and presenting both sides of the arguments .
It’s not the the news media’s job to explain Trumps idea for him ,  it’s trump surrogates they allow on who are supposed to be doing that . 
  It’s almost like your saying people who support trump the most don’t know what the fuck they are talking about . I would agree with you there .

I didn’t like the tax cuts either , they should have raised taxes to pay for the wars in the Middle East they wanted so bad back in the day .


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: Psilynut2]
    #25042416 - 03/06/18 09:00 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Steel tarifs, yes. The US has plenty of iron still in the ground.

Aluminum no, Quebec has the cheapest electricity in north America and aluminum requires ashit ton of electricity to make. Then again, I'm just rooting for Canada cause I live there... We sell you guys 40% of all your aluminum.


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: Patlal]
    #25042427 - 03/06/18 09:05 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Steel tarifs, yes. The US has plenty of iron still in the ground.

Aluminum no, Quebec has the cheapest electricity in north America and aluminum requires ashit ton of electricity to make. Then again, I'm just rooting for Canada cause I live there... We sell you guys 40% of all your aluminum.




How dare you make money selling us something that we need.:n00bslayer:


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: Thundermuscle75]
    #25042437 - 03/06/18 09:10 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Steel tarifs, yes. The US has plenty of iron still in the ground.

Aluminum no, Quebec has the cheapest electricity in north America and aluminum requires ashit ton of electricity to make. Then again, I'm just rooting for Canada cause I live there... We sell you guys 40% of all your aluminum.




How dare you make money selling us something that we need.:n00bslayer:




Nobody really needs aluminum. Its just convenient.


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: pineninja] * 1
    #25042733 - 03/06/18 11:07 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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i had a "trade war" with one of my competition in our local, home market area.  i also had a mutual "no compete" gentleman's agreement with another one of my competition in our home market area.

one of those gave me fucking heartburn, made me lose sleep, pissed off a few customers, pissed off at least one manufacturer, and generally sucked.  it also cost me money on a regular basis until we finally choked that other company into submission.

the other one made it possible for me to better and more quickly serve my customers and made us more profitable while also providing me with a lot of knowledge that would have been hard to come by otherwise.

it's pretty obvious which is which, right?  of course my situations had very, very little in common with international trade wars, but it seems that the bellicose type ends up giving our nation heartburn more often than it enriches us.




In fact i think it quite closely mirrors the world market as a whole.

Those willing to collude and price fix will survive whilst convincing themselves that their very survival is better for consumers and after a narrowing laud the value in a competetive free market.

I hope you dont take offense to this...its the way of the world.




i never take offense to things written on the internet by someone living half way around the world, no matter how cool of a pizza oven said person has built.

while not taking offense, i realized how poorly i did communicating what i was trying to convey.  additionally, i bet you would find it difficult (read: impossible) to find me lauding the value in a competitive free market as i've not made any comments for or against.

what we did was less price fixing than cooperating (sure, colluding, if you'd like) in such a fashion as to drive a rip-off artist out of our market.  i'd do it again in a heartbeat and know--no convincing of myself necessary--that our survival has been better for consumers and will continue to benefit them in the future. 

when companies like precision door service are ripping off consumers the ends justify the means.  it was a franchise of PDS that we choked out and i'm proud of that fact.

in any event, i don't agree that it takes collusion and price fixing to survive and/or prosper.  in my example it was done by me and one other company for a very specific reason, but i don't think either practice is necessary (and i realize you didn't say exactly that, either)

:cheers:  ya cunt.


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: relic]
    #25043132 - 03/06/18 01:59 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I worked for a scam water heater company for a short time.  It was awful.  We had a checklist menu and had to try to talk the customer into authorizing 30 line items that are being presented as code requirements.  And it would add up to hellacious prices.  3k+ to replace a 50 gal heater was not uncommon.  I didn't last very long there.  They were dispatched from another state, and the people had no clue what L.A. traffic looks like.  One day I started in Whittier, second call in Thousand Oaks, and my last stop in Torrance.  The truck yard was near Compton and I lived in Woodland Hills.  Anyone around here will tell you that is an insane drive for a day's work.  I couldn't have stayed there, even if I enjoyed swindling people.

Speaking of doors, I ordered a bunch of interior doors for my mom, and it turns out that every door in her new house is framed to 6' 4.5".  Now I get to reframe every door.


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25043345 - 03/06/18 03:46 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: musiclover420]
    #25043427 - 03/06/18 04:14 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

It shows investors think the tariffs are a good idea


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: Stonehenge] * 3
    #25043488 - 03/06/18 04:39 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

:facepalm:

I'm amazed you have managed to live as long as you have considering how divorced from reality you are


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: koods] * 1
    #25043497 - 03/06/18 04:44 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm amazed you have managed to live as long as you have considering how divorced from reality you are




I was going to ask him to explain, but then I realized it was most likely futile.


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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: musiclover420]
    #25044023 - 03/06/18 09:03 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Hours before Gary Cohn resigned, Trump confronted him and demanded he support his massive new tariffs

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President Donald Trump demanded that Gary Cohn publicly stand by new tariffs just hours before the president's top economic adviser announced his resignation, according to a new report.

Bloomberg's Jennifer Jacobs reported that Trump asked Cohn — who was vocal in his distaste for the new trade measures — if he was on the "same team" when it came to the new tariffs on steel and aluminum during a meeting at the White House on Tuesday.

Cohn did not reply, according to the report.

The former Goldman Sachs executive pushed Trump to reconsider the tariffs over the past few days, even setting up a meeting with executives from industries that would be hurt by them.

Despite the push, Trump has remained steadfast in his desire to implement the tariffs and even suggested that a trade war could be beneficial to the US.

On the other hand, Cohn — along with many economists — believe the broad-based tariffs of 25% on steel and 10% on aluminum would increase costs for many companies, raise prices for consumers, and eventually lead to job losses for the US economy.




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Re: Trump's Tarrifs [Re: musiclover420]
    #25044475 - 03/07/18 03:40 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

There seems to be little congressional support for the tarrifs. Is this required or can he push them through with executive action?


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