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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Scolecite]
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A few years years ago I called the Dept. of Cellular Biology at the University of Miami for paperwork to will my body to science. They responded in such a way as to convey the message to me: 'Think this through,' as if I were making a big mistake. Apparently, they get unidentified transients for their cadavers. Now, [tongue-in-cheek] I originally began my academic career with a mind to go to medical school. This is a way to go to medical school, only I be instructing, not learning, and be at the business end of the scalpel. They never sent me the paperwork.

Perhaps I'll try again, or just make plans for cremation. It is only a superstitious sensibility that wants to treat my corpse 'nicely.' It is a childish thought that says 'Hey, I'll run out of air in a coffin,' or 'Yikes! being burned to cinders in a gas-fired oven has got to hurt.' If  I have such vestigal thoughts from childhood, I wonder how many others have them and are motivated by them.The Plains Indians have 'sky burials,' where bodies are wrapped in skins or blankets and placed on platforms several feet in the air. Now THAT sounds pleasant to me (providing vultures don't eat my eye-balls  :smile:  )


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Some people think that if their bodies are cremated, and if there is such thing as "life after death", they won't have their bodies to run around in any more.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: psyka]
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Yes. I like the way you put this. Nevertheless, Compassion Wisdom - the skill of balancing attachment and detachment - is a rare phenomenon among most of us humans.


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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would they be against organ donation?


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: SpecialEd]
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That's a good question. I don't know. I've only spoken to a few people who feel or believe this way. Next time I speak to someone who doesn't wanted to be incinerated, I'll ask that question!


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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Before or after?


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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I read somewhere that in New Orleans people get lead coffins so the rats can't chew through that shit.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: DoctorJ]
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DoctorJ said:
I read somewhere that in New Orleans people get lead coffins so the rats can't chew through that shit.



It also protects agansit mutant zombies in the case of nuclear war.

:lol:
Peace.


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For I've never known completeness
Like being here
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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: fireworks_god]
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Actually, cnn did a story about how lead coffins are ineffectual against mutant zombies. The anchor said it was very unlikely that lead could stop them.


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: SpecialEd]
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The anchor doesn't even know what he is talking about.. he sure as hell couldn't hold that boat in one place, after all.  :rolleyes:

The lead couldn't stop the mutant zombies or the radiation from turning them into mutant zombies? :grin:

Anyways, back on topic, Frog, you are being very neglectant of this thread. Its been like five days now.. We want Frog! We want Frog! We want Frog! We want Frog!  :eek:
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: fireworks_god]
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Okay, sorry it took so long, but as I said, the forum was down and then I got busy.

A fact can't be argued. It is either right or wrong. But opinions may not always be fully ?fact-based?, and therefore arguing about them becomes futile. And then criticizing each other for our different beliefs, in a ridiculing manner, is harmful to any discussion.

I can argue that my favorite color is blue. You might say it?s a stupid color to have as a favorite color, and that I should prefer red, for reasons you may cite. I may not come back with any good reason for liking ?blue? except that it?s a personal preference.

I?ve never seen a Christian come on this forum and criticize the nonbelievers for not beliving. I?m wondering why the nonbelievers feel a need to criticize Christians for their beliefs.

The discussion on funerals was handled with respect, with each member simply stating his preference for attending, not attending, what death meant, etc. Why can?t discussion on belief in God be handled the same way?

I thought this discussion was the best discussion on personal beliefs that I have ever seen on this forum.


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The day will come when, after harnessing the ether, the winds, the tides, gravitation, we shall harness for God the energies of love. And, on that day, for the second time in the history of the world, man will have discovered fire.  -Teilard

Edited by Frog (02/13/04 03:59 PM)

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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i agree frog well put! :thumbup:


then again you came in and made a shifty remark towards shrooms on another thread followed by this emoticon  :rolleyes:

this is the rolling of the eyes which is critisizing

furthermore, shrooms didn't have anything to do with the thread you posted that remark on!  soundsl ike you have an issue with people who do drugs. . and it's ok

we all have issues with different thigs, and sooner or later we are bound to criticize.  just try to limit it as much as we can and realize that a lot of our ideas are a bunch of pre-concieved notions espcially dealing with right or wrong *nudge nudge* :wink:.  this is why psychedelics kick ass! 

a conversation is like a big stew of ideas.just add a hint of understanding with clarity, and the broth will taste better.


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: kaiowas]
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No, no, no! That's not what I was doing! Sheesh. Now I have to go read what I wrote so I can refute your statement. *sighs*


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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the post was about genetics and altering dna, and you said said something about shrooms out of the blue.  this is a remark that doesn't help at all

furthermore rolling the eyes at least to me doesn't look like a kidding around thing.

when I kid at least I use this  :wink: or  :grin:

hehe

and like I said, it's ok to do this.  lol who am I do say it isn't
you don't have to explain yourself, tis all good

i like you anyways for your honesty so  :razz:

:wink: :grin:


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: kaiowas]
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kaiowas said:
then again you came in and made a shifty remark towards shrooms on another thread followed by this emoticon  :rolleyes:

this is the rolling of the eyes which is critisizing

furthermore, shrooms didn't have anything to do with the thread you posted that remark on!  soundsl ike you have an issue with people who do drugs. . and it's ok

we all have issues with different thigs, and sooner or later we are bound to criticize.  just try to limit it as much as we can and realize that a lot of our ideas are a bunch of pre-concieved notions espcially dealing with right or wrong *nudge nudge* :wink:.  this is why psychedelics kick ass! 

a conversation is like a big stew of ideas.just add a hint of understanding with clarity, and the broth will taste better.



What I posted on the other thread:  "Well, then, none of you would need to take shrooms any more, once you started seeing people flying.  :rolleyes:  "

This was a joke!  The connection between the rolling eyes and taking shrooms was that if you saw people flying, you wouldn't need to take shrooms! 

Listen, don't read anything into my posts.  I usually say exactly what I think.  No more, no less.  If I offend, you should ask me first what I meant.  I apologize if I gave the impression of criticizing people who take shrooms.  I really have nothing against people who do that.  Why would I be posting on this forum, if so? 

In the words of fireworks:  "Peace"  :grin:


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: kaiowas]
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kaiowas said:
rolling the eyes at least to me doesn't look like a kidding around thing.

when I kid at least I use this  :wink: or  :grin:

hehe

and like I said, it's ok to do this.  lol who am I do say it isn't
you don't have to explain yourself, tis all good

i like you anyways for your honesty so  :razz:

:wink: :grin:



Okay, I'm going back to put a :grin:, because I would never want any of you to think I'm criticizing you.  But I meant "rolling eyes".  I feel like I can post the "rolling eyes" because I am part of this forum, too.  I've never criticized anyone for using shrooms.  I've read the posts, and I stay out of those discussions because I don't use shrooms, and I'm not critical of those who do.


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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:lol:




yeah I can't judge tone at all(that's what is great about computers), it was only the rolling eyes thingy, or as it is called emoticon :laugh:.  know that I only speak for myself, though I guess I didn't elaborate well enough on that part. it is important like you said to keep an open mind

but then again who am i to say what works for everyone else...  :stoned: 

" Why would I be posting on this forum, if so?"

:lol:  um.......hehe


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

Edited by kaiowas (02/13/04 04:47 PM)

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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This is a lot of work because I keep forgetting which thread has that statement on it.    :crazy:


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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: Frog]
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but good things come of out things you work for.  when great difficulty is overcomed, you will be that much stronger.  nothing should really be difficult IMHO

*though I am notorius for making things difficult* :grin:


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: No, really, "DEATH" [Re: kaiowas]
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Okay, it's fixed. And really, I'm glad you called it to my attention because if one of you was offended by it, others probably were, also.


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