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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: paradoxtriper]
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Should be in ODD, this forums for shrooms, lsd, mescaline, salvia?, Not positive, but I think should of posted in the ODD.

Anyways, I dont think its a problem, as long as you dont take it the day you plan on tripping. I have seen people take benzos to cool a trip off, I have done it on lsd before, and it sure does numb the trip, sometimes kills it altogether.

To your calculator, that is correct, you would have roughly 3mg in your system, but its on the tail end I wouldn't worry about it too much, would dim the trip a little.

Edited by LSDollar (12/11/15 07:23 PM)

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: LSDollar]
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mirraco said:
Should be in ODD, this forums for shrooms, lsd, mescaline, salvia?, Not positive, but I think should of posted in the ODD.

Anyways, I dont think its a problem, as long as you dont take it the day you plan on tripping. I have seen people take benzos to cool a trip off, I have done it on lsd before, and it sure does numb the trip, sometimes kills it altogether.

To your calculator, that is correct, you would have roughly 3mg in your system, but its on the tail end I wouldn't worry about it too much, would dim the trip a little.



I am new here so if this thread belongs somewhere else , if a MOD could move it , it would be greatly appreciated. I took the klonopin last night and the plan was to trip today , due to the half-life of klonopin it would seem i'd have 3MG in my system if i took the shrooms. I've seen so many people debate that it kills all visuals and introspective thought . I just don't want to take 4-5Gs of shrooms and end up having a dull experience because of last nights benzos. I do though feel the effects shouldn't be as prominent since i took it the day before

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: paradoxtriper]
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I would say, if you took 5g shrooms it wouldnt dull it too much, I mainly see this issue, when you take it that day, or if you take it during a trip to help it mellow things out on a bad trip.

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: LSDollar]
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mirraco said:
I would say, if you took 5g shrooms it wouldnt dull it too much, I mainly see this issue, when you take it that day, or if you take it during a trip to help it mellow things out on a bad trip.



My plain today *possibly* was to not even take my regular .5MG dose because of the klonopin already in my system , as well if my trip went sour i was going to accept the consequences and not take any even if i felt the need. Thanks for your input though , i may still decide to do it tonight . Going to wait for some more replys :smile:

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: paradoxtriper]
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No benzos. Take your trip. It dulls what you can experience and I take regular doses of clonazapam for 6 years.

Happy travels within!


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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: suttree]
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suttree said:
No benzos. Take your trip. It dulls what you can experience and I take regular doses of clonazapam for 6 years.

Happy travels within!



Could you let me know in what way the experience was dulled for you? Visuals , introspective thoughts , ability to inner connect? And to what extent was it dulled?

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: paradoxtriper]
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With iboga they recommend for those with experience to not even accept you if you do. With esoterics substances I can not give examples as I have never experienced it. Just from what I have researched.

Not much help to you. Just don't if you choose. I take it to deal with society and what I have learned from my experiences.

Yet I can guarantee it will dull your experience. No details, but dulled. Its enough.


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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: suttree]
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Thanks for all the input so far. Anyone else have any experiences or suggestions before that time of night starts to hit where i may take them?

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: paradoxtriper]
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Psilocybin and Klonopin is as safe as the dose of Klonopin you're taking.  High doses of it are always a risk.  If you're taking a lot of benzos daily, you should always taper off and never go off cold turkey, otherwise you're putting yourself at risk for seizures. 

Honestly, your post was TLDR and I didn't understand your last bit that was supposed to summarize, so forgive me if this is redundant:

If you normally dose your k-pin once a day at night then don't dose before your trip, once you're coming down and want to sleep, take your normal benzo dose and your trip will shut off completely and you'll be able to fall asleep.  I have a k-pin script as well and I always take it at the tale end of a trip to fall asleep once I'm coming down. 

If you take it too soon before a trip it can dramatically reduce the effects of the psilocybin, but if you've got a good 12 hours or more between you and your last dose you shouldn't notice any difference, even if it was a pretty high dose.  I guess if you're still feeling all spaced out then it will dampen the trip a bit, but k-pin should only last about 8-12 hours.

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
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God it has been an enjoyable night. Microdosing. Look into it.


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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: suttree]
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You're 5'6 and 220 pounds? Unless you're a fucking mountain of muscle then you need to lose a lot of fat and then your heart will be way physically healthier and won't beat so hard as the result of anxiety.

Fix that problem for that reason and you won't have to even take anti anxiety medication because anxiety won't cause your body as much stress plus frankly I'm sure the insecurity of being overweight is what's causing a lot of your anxiety in the first place

Lastly but not least, you taking stupid ass benzos (I dislike this class of drugs for reasons) for as long as you've been taking them, will make it to where you can't just be calm mellow and relaxed without them

Long story short improve your life and get off the stupid drugs and you wouldn't have to make this thread in the first place.

Not being an asshole just showing tough love good sir


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Hugging your mind, praying to survive, feeling the love of the hieroglyphs in the sky
We all need more love, and mainly less hate
Hate is the blind that covers the heart's eye
That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
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Gonna have to agree with MagicalOrangutan while benzos are hard to quit espescially after long term use it's definitely worth it. Plus if you want to use psychedelics more often it'll definitely worth it plus you wont be spending all your money on such a detrimental drug. Taking benzos for a long time like you have will also leave them in your system a lot longer then using them occaionally due to the fact that they stay in fat like weed and arent water soluable.


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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: IndianTripper]
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P.Zappatecorum said:
Psilocybin and Klonopin is as safe as the dose of Klonopin you're taking.  High doses of it are always a risk.  If you're taking a lot of benzos daily, you should always taper off and never go off cold turkey, otherwise you're putting yourself at risk for seizures. 

Honestly, your post was TLDR and I didn't understand your last bit that was supposed to summarize, so forgive me if this is redundant:

If you normally dose your k-pin once a day at night then don't dose before your trip, once you're coming down and want to sleep, take your normal benzo dose and your trip will shut off completely and you'll be able to fall asleep.  I have a k-pin script as well and I always take it at the tale end of a trip to fall asleep once I'm coming down. 

If you take it too soon before a trip it can dramatically reduce the effects of the psilocybin, but if you've got a good 12 hours or more between you and your last dose you shouldn't notice any difference, even if it was a pretty high dose.  I guess if you're still feeling all spaced out then it will dampen the trip a bit, but k-pin should only last about 8-12 hours.



Thank you for your reply and i greatly appreciate your input. I decided to wait at the time and my plan will be , to take my normal klonopin dose after the trip ends to just help with sleep. Thanks!

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
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MagicalOrangutan said:
You're 5'6 and 220 pounds? Unless you're a fucking mountain of muscle then you need to lose a lot of fat and then your heart will be way physically healthier and won't beat so hard as the result of anxiety.

Fix that problem for that reason and you won't have to even take anti anxiety medication because anxiety won't cause your body as much stress plus frankly I'm sure the insecurity of being overweight is what's causing a lot of your anxiety in the first place

Lastly but not least, you taking stupid ass benzos (I dislike this class of drugs for reasons) for as long as you've been taking them, will make it to where you can't just be calm mellow and relaxed without them

Long story short improve your life and get off the stupid drugs and you wouldn't have to make this thread in the first place.

Not being an asshole just showing tough love good sir


I've been struggling with weight lose for quite some time now , not going to spew any excuses , but in the last 3 months of me trying to better myself in life I've lost 30 pounds. I went from my highest at 248 and am down to around 217 and am VERY proud of my progress and steps in life to help better my health. I am sure once i lose more weight my body will feel even better and life will be more enjoyable , and i am sure a MAJOR part of my anxiety will go away. Even though i don't consciously think of weight or make it a problem in my life , i think sub-consciously we all know its not the right thing and i needed to change my ways. You do come off a tad harsh though..

I knew mentioning benzos on this forum wouldn't be the brightest idea , but do not bash others for their life choices , especially when all they want to do is better themselves. Though it means nothing , i've been on a VERY low dose of a benzo , never increasing my dose and always tried to make sure i was in a situation where i'd never face withdrawals. Luckily i can stop my benzo without real withdrawals and hasn't lead to a benzo addiction where i am taking many MGs a day and have withdrawals the next if i don't have them. As I've stated above I've been trying to better my life. Not only my health , but state of mind as well.

I want to make it clear for everyone that my main goal is to become the person i truly want to be and to better my life. I've been contentiously exercising , working out, and tracking marcos to improve my health. Ive been tampering and taking less of my benzo each week so i can slowly get used to not being on them. I've been mediating and doing many charka exercises to help connect back to the world and myself. I want my life to improve , i want change , i am making change.

Maybe this thread wasn't a good idea because i already knew the answer in my heart to not take them that night and i didn't. I followed my flow of fate and it decided last night was not the night for me to trip.

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: IndianTripper]
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IndianTripper said:
Gonna have to agree with MagicalOrangutan while benzos are hard to quit espescially after long term use it's definitely worth it. Plus if you want to use psychedelics more often it'll definitely worth it plus you wont be spending all your money on such a detrimental drug. Taking benzos for a long time like you have will also leave them in your system a lot longer then using them occaionally due to the fact that they stay in fat like weed and arent water soluable.



I know the horrors of people having to come off high doses of benzos. Luckily I've only been prescribed mine and never bought them off the street. I do take the 2nd smallest dose you can of the klonopin if i don't take it recreationaly , which i would not suggest anyone doing. I've slowly been cutting my dose down in half or decide to skip a day to try and help tamper off. Been doing this for a week and in 2 weeks i should be completely off. Thanks for your input and i soon hope to be fully off my benzos.

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
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P.Zappatecorum said:
Psilocybin and Klonopin is as safe as the dose of Klonopin you're taking.  High doses of it are always a risk.  If you're taking a lot of benzos daily, you should always taper off and never go off cold turkey, otherwise you're putting yourself at risk for seizures. 

Honestly, your post was TLDR and I didn't understand your last bit that was supposed to summarize, so forgive me if this is redundant:

If you normally dose your k-pin once a day at night then don't dose before your trip, once you're coming down and want to sleep, take your normal benzo dose and your trip will shut off completely and you'll be able to fall asleep.  I have a k-pin script as well and I always take it at the tale end of a trip to fall asleep once I'm coming down. 

If you take it too soon before a trip it can dramatically reduce the effects of the psilocybin, but if you've got a good 12 hours or more between you and your last dose you shouldn't notice any difference, even if it was a pretty high dose.  I guess if you're still feeling all spaced out then it will dampen the trip a bit, but k-pin should only last about 8-12 hours.



Thanks for the input , always great hearing back from people who can relate to the situation a tad more. I didn't end up tripping , but did take my normal .5MG dose too fall asleep like i normally would. Today i will technically have 1.75 of the klonopin in my system left and if i decided to trip , i won't take my klonopin unless needed. I think this will be fine to trip on and won't greatly decrease the effects because last night i only took my normal dose and feel 100% normal today. I will report back when i do decide to trip and tell you the experience , along with how much klonopin was still in my system if any.

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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: paradoxtriper]
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Cheers man its always good to hear someone switching from detrimental drugs IMO such as xanax to good ol psychedelics. When I did my life got considerably better. I hope the same for you. Good luck and happy tripping!


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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
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P.Zappatecorum said:
Psilocybin and Klonopin is as safe as the dose of Klonopin you're taking.  High doses of it are always a risk.  If you're taking a lot of benzos daily, you should always taper off and never go off cold turkey, otherwise you're putting yourself at risk for seizures. 

Honestly, your post was TLDR and I didn't understand your last bit that was supposed to summarize, so forgive me if this is redundant:

If you normally dose your k-pin once a day at night then don't dose before your trip, once you're coming down and want to sleep, take your normal benzo dose and your trip will shut off completely and you'll be able to fall asleep.  I have a k-pin script as well and I always take it at the tale end of a trip to fall asleep once I'm coming down. 

If you take it too soon before a trip it can dramatically reduce the effects of the psilocybin, but if you've got a good 12 hours or more between you and your last dose you shouldn't notice any difference, even if it was a pretty high dose.  I guess if you're still feeling all spaced out then it will dampen the trip a bit, but k-pin should only last about 8-12 hours.



God, you sound like an exaggerated doctor saying that by laws and possible lawsuits. Not to be mean spirited but that just irritated me. I guess doctors piss me off in general.


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Re: Klonopin the day before mushrooms. Effects , loss of potency , dangerous? [Re: paradoxtriper]
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paradoxtriper said:
MagicalOrangutan said:
You're 5'6 and 220 pounds? Unless you're a fucking mountain of muscle then you need to lose a lot of fat and then your heart will be way physically healthier and won't beat so hard as the result of anxiety.

Fix that problem for that reason and you won't have to even take anti anxiety medication because anxiety won't cause your body as much stress plus frankly I'm sure the insecurity of being overweight is what's causing a lot of your anxiety in the first place

Lastly but not least, you taking stupid ass benzos (I dislike this class of drugs for reasons) for as long as you've been taking them, will make it to where you can't just be calm mellow and relaxed without them

Long story short improve your life and get off the stupid drugs and you wouldn't have to make this thread in the first place.

Not being an asshole just showing tough love good sir


I've been struggling with weight lose for quite some time now , not going to spew any excuses , but in the last 3 months of me trying to better myself in life I've lost 30 pounds. I went from my highest at 248 and am down to around 217 and am VERY proud of my progress and steps in life to help better my health. I am sure once i lose more weight my body will feel even better and life will be more enjoyable , and i am sure a MAJOR part of my anxiety will go away. Even though i don't consciously think of weight or make it a problem in my life , i think sub-consciously we all know its not the right thing and i needed to change my ways. You do come off a tad harsh though..

I knew mentioning benzos on this forum wouldn't be the brightest idea , but do not bash others for their life choices , especially when all they want to do is better themselves. Though it means nothing , i've been on a VERY low dose of a benzo , never increasing my dose and always tried to make sure i was in a situation where i'd never face withdrawals. Luckily i can stop my benzo without real withdrawals and hasn't lead to a benzo addiction where i am taking many MGs a day and have withdrawals the next if i don't have them. As I've stated above I've been trying to better my life. Not only my health , but state of mind as well.

I want to make it clear for everyone that my main goal is to become the person i truly want to be and to better my life. I've been contentiously exercising , working out, and tracking marcos to improve my health. Ive been tampering and taking less of my benzo each week so i can slowly get used to not being on them. I've been mediating and doing many charka exercises to help connect back to the world and myself. I want my life to improve , i want change , i am making change.

Maybe this thread wasn't a good idea because i already knew the answer in my heart to not take them that night and i didn't. I followed my flow of fate and it decided last night was not the night for me to trip.



OP congrats on the weight loss, and also for exercising good judgment in your tripping choices!  Take care of you first.


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