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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: ant_poolguy]
    #902980 - 09/23/02 09:43 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

This is kind of baffling....

People seem to be saying 2-5 strains are potent, so whats average? Or crappy? If the majority of strains are "potent" then maybe we should just say they are average.....

Im very high right now so if that doesnt make sence sorry
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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: Fd3000]
    #902984 - 09/23/02 09:44 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

In my experience, they've all been very close.


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: Roadkill]
    #902991 - 09/23/02 09:46 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

"I have to disagree with you Fd.

I see a difference in potency in different strains.

The best way to test things are to use the same substrates, all the same growing
conditions, and then take the same dose amount each time you try a new strain."


Well then i'd definatly have to disagree with you Roadkill, i've grown out about 8 or 9 differnt cube strains now, mainly all on birdseed.. and to me the potency is all the same with a few minor minor differnces. I believe the minor differnces are due to the mindset before tripping and enviorment we took them in. People, don't believe the rumors, a cube is a cube.. they all mainly carry the same potency. The differnces between strains are the differnt features they display while growing, not potency.

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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #903007 - 09/23/02 09:49 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

In reply to:

The differnces between strains are the differnt features they display while growing, not potency.



This has been my experience.


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #903031 - 09/23/02 09:56 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

my experience as well, i'm glad someone actually agrees with me!  :smile:  I read through all the posts after posting and I can't believe all the people here actually saying potency varies greatly from strain to strain, from personal experience I really couldn't disagree more.

B+ were a tad less potent though, but it was barely noticable.  PR gave me a really speedy weird vibe, and they do stain blue as hell, if that means anything..  I doubt it.  EQ's gave me hella visuals, but when it all came down to it they were all basically the same. 

You said treasure coast didn't give you much of a trip?  Well did you eat before you shroomed?  Were you drinking beer, or booze?  Were you smoking weed?  There are a lot of variables here people.. 

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    #903040 - 09/23/02 09:59 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: matts]
    #903065 - 09/23/02 10:06 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I think it's mostly marketing.  :grin: 


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: matts]
    #903071 - 09/23/02 10:07 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

wrong!  it's differnt species dude..  not differnt strains of P. Cubensis.  I believe they all basically carry the same chemical levels.  someone prove me wrong, i'd like to see it.  :smile: 

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    #903122 - 09/23/02 10:21 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #903223 - 09/23/02 11:06 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

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Well then i'd definatly have to disagree with you Roadkill, i've grown out about 8 or 9 differnt cube strains now, mainly all on birdseed



I have grown out over 20 strains of cubensis.
You said right there that they were grown mainly on birdseed....that means you haven't stuck to just birdseed.
Your wishy washy!

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and to me the potency is all the same with a few minor minor differnces 



You just admited that there was some minor differences.
How would you judge these differences?
Lets see you answered that yourself.....read the following quote.

Quote:

B+ were a tad less potent though, but it was barely noticable. PR gave me a really speedy weird vibe, and they do stain blue as hell, if that means anything.. I doubt it. EQ's gave me hella visuals, but when it all came down to it they were all basically the same.



Sounds like you found some of the differences.

Quote:

I believe they all basically carry the same chemical levels. someone prove me wrong, i'd like to see it.



Prove that they do carry the same levels of chemicals in each strain.


I'll make this real easy for you.
Grow some Cambodians and some Gulf Coast out.....same substrate, conditions, drying....everything the same.
Try 3 grams of Gulf Coast....then write up a trip report.
Then wait 2 weeks.....don't do any in that 2 weeks.
Then try 3 grams of Cambodians.....then write up a trip report.
If you can't tell the difference between Gulf Coast and Cambodians your a friggin idiot!!!

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    #903237 - 09/23/02 11:10 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: Roadkill]
    #903255 - 09/23/02 11:18 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Until a lab volunteers to conduct an experiment with multiple isolates representing each strain (and also comparing the subsequent flushes), this is all subjective. Everyone has their own interpretations of the experiences. Also, tolerances might vary during the times the different mushrooms were ingested, and/or the amount of time that lapsed between experiences may have altered the perception. Set and setting also plays a big part in how enjoyable or intense a trip may be.

In my experiences, they have all been relatively similar. This has also been confirmed by many of my friends. Still, my experiences and my friend's experiences mean nothing. Everyone has their own opinion and rightfully so. It is up to you (the individual) to determine what is right for you.


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: matts]
    #903279 - 09/23/02 11:24 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

matts... Road can't do that publicly because then all the people that try his standard comparison challenge would have biased results. Get it?

He likes to keep his opinions on effects and potency rather hidden so that he can see how many people notice some of the same differences/characteristics that he does. This is actually a good thing because it will eventually provide a common understanding of the effects of certain strains.

Sorry to answer for you on this one Road, just couldn't help myself... Did I get it right?


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: TM]
    #903287 - 09/23/02 11:26 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Actually, what RK is saying is that he feels the Cambos are much stronger.


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: Roadkill]
    #903291 - 09/23/02 11:26 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

ok i'm wishy washy there huh big guy, seems like you're getting a little defensive here. haha, how funny.

I said minor differnces.. meaning very minor, virtually nothing.  Try checking out dictionary.com for the meaning of the word minor.  Yes there are differnces, I stated that..  fact of the matter is there aren't many, meaning they are all BASICALLY the same.  I stated this as well.  Oh and the word mainly means I have primarily stuck to one substrate, I think I grew 12 cakes or so of EQ on brf when I first started 2 years ago, then moved to birdseed and never looked back. 

I have grown out both those strains you listed on birdseed, ate both of them as well..  and I could say the same thing to you..  if you noticed any differnces then you are a frickin idiot.  I noticed nothing whatsoever.  It was virtually the same trip, my growing partner says the same thing.  Maybe next time when someone disagrees with you might try not getting so defensive, it makes you sound like a know it all.  It is ok to disagree with people on this forum, that's what makes the discussions interesting, just in case you haven't noticed that yet.  :wink:

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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #903297 - 09/23/02 11:28 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Not exactly, according to my inside info. :grin:


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: TM]
    #903302 - 09/23/02 11:29 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I've had RK tell me personally that he felt the Cambos were among the most potent.


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    #903309 - 09/23/02 11:32 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #903313 - 09/23/02 11:32 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Well, I guess we just destroyed the control of that experiment! Sorry Road!


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Re: Potency Opinions... "To the Experienced" [Re: TM]
    #903318 - 09/23/02 11:37 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Well, I guess we just destroyed the control of that experiment! Sorry Road!



Nah, I doubt that.  RK has made it no secret that he loves the Cambos!  Anyway, the previous guy just stated that he has indeed tried that and that both him and his grow partner saw no substantial differences in the experience.  Either way you look at it, until we can get hard data from a lab, it's all speculation and opinion!! :grin:

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